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what was the 'ignorant' comment he made?
why can't people respond to him if they want to?
why do you want him to shut up?
this site is about engaging. So.. ??
How is the sites integrity compromised from his having an opinion when all opinion is welcome ?-apart from promotion of Phedaphilia, violence, ad homien attacks and threats. (none of which is the case for sammy)
Why do you want everyone to ignore him but not your 'pretty please' demand?
would you like it if someone wrote this comment about you?


IMO it is better that everyone has a different opinion then all being forced into one against their will. collectivism/cultism doesn't do it for me.


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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself. ~Thomas Paine


History does not teach fatalism. There are moments when the will of a handful of free men breaks through determinism and opens up new roads. ~Charles de Gaulle


Freedom has its life in the hearts, the actions, the spirit of men and so it must be daily earned and refreshed - else like a flower cut from its life-giving roots, it will wither and die. ~Dwight D. Eisenhower


Liberty is the possibility of doubting, of making a mistake,... of searching and experimenting,... of saying No to any authority - literary, artistic, philosophical, religious, social, and even political. ~Ignazio Silone, The God That Failed, 1950

Jesus (john 8;34)
Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

ANNE MORROW LINDBERGH:
Him that I love, I wish to be free -- even from me.


BARBARA EHRENREICH:
That's free enterprise, friends: freedom to gamble, freedom to lose. And the great thing -- the truly democratic thing about it -- is that you don't even have to be a player to lose.


BENJAMIN FRANKLIN:
They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security


C. WRIGHT MILLS:
Freedom is not merely the opportunity to do as one pleases; neither is it merely the opportunity to choose between set alternatives. Freedom is, first of all, the chance to formulate the available choices, to argue over them -- and then, the opportunity to choose.


CARL SHURZ:
If you want to be free, there is but one way; it is to guarantee an equally full measure of liberty to all your neighbors. There is no other.


CHARLIE DANIELS:
A brief candle; both ends burning
An endless mile; a bus wheel turning
A friend to share the lonesome times
A handshake and a sip of wine
So say it loud and let it ring
We are all a part of everything
The future, present and the past
Fly on proud bird
You're free at last.
written en route to the funeral for his friend, Ronnie Van Zant of the band, Lynyrd Skynyrd.

CLARENCE DARROW:
You can only protect your liberties in this world by protecting the other man's freedom. You can only be free if I am free.


DOROTHY THOMPSON:
When liberty is taken away by force it can be restored by force. When it is relinquished voluntarily by default it can never be recovered.


DOROTHY THOMPSON:
Of all forms of government and society, those of free men and women are in many respects the most brittle. They give the fullest freedom for activities of private persons and groups who often identify their own interests, essentially selfish, with the general welfare.


DOROTHY THOMPSON:
It is not the fact of liberty but the way in which liberty is exercised that ultimately determines whether liberty itself survives.


DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER:
We seek peace, knowing that peace is the climate of freedom.


EDWARD R. MURROW:
We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.


ELEANOR HOLMES NORTON:
The only way to make sure people you agree with can speak is to support the rights of people you don't agree with.


EPICTETUS:
We must not believe the many, who say that only free people ought to be educated, but we should rather believe the philosophers who say that only the educated are free.

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ERICH FROMM:
Human history begins with man's act of disobedience which is at the very same time the beginning of his freedom and development of his reason.


EUGENE V. DEBS:
Years ago I recognized my kinship with all living things, and I made up my mind that I was not one bit better than the meanest on the earth. I said then and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it; while there is a criminal element, I am of it; while there is a soul in prison, I am not free.


FLORYNCE KENNEDY:
Freedom is like taking a bath -- you have to keep doing it every day!


FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT:
The only sure bulwark of continuing liberty is a government strong enough to protect the interests of the people, and a people strong enough and well enough informed to maintain its sovereign control over the government.


FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT:
True individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence.


FREDERICK DOUGLASS:
Who would be free themselves must strike the blow. Better even to die free than to live slaves.


FREDERICK DOUGLASS:
Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation, are people who want crops without ploughing the ground; they want rain without thunder and lightning; they want the ocean without the roar of its many waters. The struggle may be a moral one, or it may be a physical one, or it may be both. But it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand; it never has and it never will.


GOETHE:
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free.


H. L. MENCKEN:
I believe that liberty is the only genuinely valuable thing that men have invented, at least in the field of government, in a thousand years. I believe that it is better to be free than to be not free, even when the former is dangerous and the latter safe. I believe that the finest qualities of man can flourish only in free air – that progress made under the shadow of the policeman's club is false progress, and of no permanent value. I believe that any man who takes the liberty of another into his keeping is bound to become a tyrant, and that any man who yields up his liberty, in however slight the measure, is bound to become a slave.


H. L. MENCKEN:
The average man does not want to be free. He simply wants to be safe.


HENRI-FRÉDÉRIC AMIEL:
Liberty, equality - bad principles! The only true principle for humanity is justice; and justice to the feeble is protection and kindness.


HENRY DAVID THOREAU:
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also a prison.


HENRY DAVID THOREAU:
Gardening is civil and social, but it wants the vigor and freedom of the forest and the outlaw.


HODDING CARTER:
There are only two lasting bequests we can hope to give our children. One is roots; the other, wings.


HUBERT HUMPHREY:
The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously.


JAMES BALDWIN:
Freedom is not something that anybody can be given. Freedom is something people take, and people are as free as they want to be.


JEAN-PAUL SARTRE:
Freedom is what you do with what's been done to you.


JESSE JACKSON:
No one should negotiate their dreams. Dreams must be free to flee and fly high. No government, no legislature, has a right to limit your dreams. You should never agree to surrender your dreams.


JOHN ADAMS:
There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty.


JOHN DEWEY:
The only freedom that is of enduring importance is the freedom of intelligence, that is to say, freedom of observation and of judgment, exercised in behalf of purposes that are intrinsically worth while. The commonest mistake made about freedom is, I think, to identify it with freedom of movement, or, with the external or physical side of activity.


JOHN F. KENNEDY:
We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.


JOHN F. KENNEDY:
The wave of the future is not the conquest of the world by a single dogmatic creed but the liberation of the diverse energies of free nations and free men.


JOHN F. KENNEDY:
Liberty without learning is always in peril and learning without liberty is always in vain.


JOHN LEWIS:
We live in a country where we're supposed to have freedom of the press and religious freedom, but I think to some degree, there’s a sense of fear in America today, that if you say the wrong thing, what some people will consider what is wrong, if you step out of line, if you dissent, whether you be an entertainer, that somehow and some way this government or the forces to be will come down on you.


JOHN P. ZENGER:
No nation ancient or modern ever lost the liberty of freely speaking, writing, or publishing their sentiments, but forthwith lost their liberty in general and became slaves.


JOHN PHILPOT CURRAN:
It is the common fate of the indolent to see their rights become a prey to the active. The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt. (1790)


JOHN STUART MILL:
The only part of the conduct of anyone for which he is amenable to society is that which concerns others. In the part which merely concerns himself, his independence is, of right, absolute. Over himself, over his own body and mind, the individual is sovereign.


JOHN STUART MILL:
The sole end for which mankind are warranted, individually or collectively, in interfering with the liberty of action of any of their number, is self-protection. That the only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilised community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others. His own good, either physical or moral, is not sufficient warrant. He cannot rightfully be compelled to do or forbear because it will be better for him to do so, because it will make him happier, because, in the opinion of others, to do so would be wise, or even right... The only part of the conduct of anyone, for which he is amenable to society, is that which concerns others. In the part which merely concerns himself, his independence is, of right, absolute. Over himself, over his own body and mind, the individual is sovereign.


LEONID BREZHNEV:
The trouble with free elections is, you never know who is going to win.


LILLIAN HELLMAN:
For every man who lives without freedom, the rest of us must face the guilt.


MARGARET SANGER:
A free race cannot be born of slave mothers.


MARIANNE WILLIAMSON:
And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our fear, our presence automatically liberates others.


MARIE VON EBNER-ESCHENBACH:
As far as your self-control goes, as far goes your freedom.


MARILYN FERGUSON:
Ultimately we know deeply that the other side of every fear is a freedom.


MARK TWAIN:
It is by the goodness of God that in our country we have these three unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and the prudence to practice neither.


MOHANDAS K. GANDHI:
Freedom is not worth having if it does not connote freedom to err.


MOLLY IVINS:
It is possible to read the history of this country as one long struggle to extend the liberties established in our Constitution to everyone in America.


NOAM CHOMSKY:
For those who stubbornly seek freedom, there can be no more urgent task than to come to understand the mechanisms and practices of indoctrination. These are easy to perceive in the totalitarian societies, much less so in the system of 'brainwashing under freedom' to which we are subjected and which all too often we sere as willing or unwitting instruments."


NOAM CHOMSKY:
If we do not believe in freedom of speech for those we despise we do not believe in it at all.


NOAM CHOMSKY:
In this possibly terminal phase of human existence, democracy and freedom are more than just ideals to be valued - they may be essential to survival.


NORMAN THOMAS:
After I asked him what he meant, he replied that freedom consisted of the unimpeded right to get rich, to use his ability, no matter what the cost to others, to win advancement.


PATRICK HENRY:
Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!


PEARL S. BUCK:
None who have always been free can understand the terrible fascinating power of the hope of freedom to those who are not free.


PEYTON CONWAY MARCH:
There is a wonderful mythical law of nature that the three things we crave most in life -- happiness, freedom, and peace of mind -- are always attained by giving them to someone else.


RABBI SHERWIN WINE:
There are two visions of America. One precedes our founding fathers and finds its roots in the harshness of our puritan past. It is very suspicious of freedom, uncomfortable with diversity, hostile to science, unfriendly to reason, contemptuous of personal autonomy. It sees America as a religious nation. It views patriotism as allegiance to God. It secretly adores coercion and conformity. Despite our constitution, despite the legacy of the Enlightenment, it appeals to millions of Americans and threatens our freedom.

The other vision finds its roots in the spirit of our founding revolution and in the leaders of this nation who embraced the age of reason. It loves freedom, encourages diversity, embraces science and affirms the dignity and rights of every individual. It sees America as a moral nation, neither completely religious nor completely secular. It defines patriotism as love of country and of the people who make it strong. It defends all citizens against unjust coercion and irrational conformity.

This second vision is our vision. It is the vision of a free society. We must be bold enough to proclaim it and strong enough to defend it against all its enemies.


RALPH WALDO EMERSON:
For what avail the plough or sail,
Or land or life, if freedom fail?
"Boston" Stanza 15

RAMSEY CLARK:
A right is not what someone gives you; it's what no one can take from you.


ROBERT FROST:
Freedom lies in being bold.


ROSA LUXEMBURG:
Without general elections, without unrestricted freedom of press and assembly, without a free struggle of opinion, life dies out in every public institution, becomes a mere semblance of life, in which only the bureaucracy remains as the active element.


ROSA LUXEMBURG:
Freedom is always and exclusively freedom for the one who thinks differently.


SAM ADAMS:
It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue.


SAMUEL ADAMS:
If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.


SIMONE WEIL:
Liberty, taking the word in its concrete sense, consists in the ability to choose.


SOMERSET MAUGHAM:
If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that it values more, it will lose that too.


SØREN KIERKEGAARD:
People hardly ever make use of the freedom they have. For example, the freedom of thought. Instead they demand freedom of speech as a compensation.


THOMAS JEFFERSON:
A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.


THOMAS JEFFERSON:
No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him.


THOMAS JEFFERSON:
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned -- this is the sum of good government.


THOMAS JEFFERSON:
I have no fear that the result of our experiment will be that men may be trusted to govern themselves without a master.


THOMAS JEFFERSON:
I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to Heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all.


UNKNOWN:
[C]reative ability and personal responsibility are strongest when the mind is free from supernatural belief and operates in an atmosphere of freedom and democracy.


VICTOR FRANKL:
Everything can be taken from a man but ... the last of the human freedoms - to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's own way.


VIKTOR FRANKL:
We who lived in concentration camps can remember the men who walked through the huts comforting others, giving away their last piece of bread. They may have been few in number, but they offer sufficient proof that everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms -- to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's own way.


VIRGINIA WOOLF:
To enjoy freedom, if the platitude is pardonable, we have of course to control ourselves. We must not squander our powers, helplessly and ignorantly, squirting half the house in order to water a single rose-bush; we must train them, exactly and powerfully, here on the very spot.


VIRGINIA WOOLF:
The history of men's opposition to women's emancipation is more interesting perhaps than the story of that emancipation itself.


VOLTAIRE:
So long as the people do not care to exercise their freedom, those who wish to tyrannize will do so; for tyrants are active and ardent, and will devote themselves in the name of any number of gods, religious and otherwise, to put shackles upon sleeping men.


WENDELL PHILLIPS:
Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.

frequently misattributed to Thomas Jefferson

WENDY KAMINER:
Patriotism does not oblige us to acquiesce in the destruction of liberty. Patriotism obliges us to question it, at least. [source]


WILLIAM O. DOUGLAS:
Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us.



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I just thought some people might appreciate a summary of what you wrote.

Summary:  Do not infringe on the rights of others, or allow your rights to be infringed on by your neighbor or by the government.

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he idea one man or woman can absolve the sin of another…is lunacy.

This only works in relation to the Anti-Christ who can, and will, absolve the sin of all who have sinned to bring it to power… you will be forgiven by it for sinning to bring it to power.

Those who grasp the truth or the message held within all scripture…then live the truth, there is no need for any middle men, be it priest, Rabbi, or Imam. You have direct communion…the kingdom of heaven is within.

Religion is the consequence of those who cannot understand the message of love; therefore they obsess themselves with the messenger, thus bringing all the trials and tribulations of the messenger across the generations. This creates all the differing religions and secret societies that are fighting the battle of their respective messenger.

Religion is the consequence of projection. Unable to see the battle is within. The battle is between who you really are and your DNA programming.

This third dimension is the consequence of projection of the inner battle… the consequence of not cleansing yourself of all that is false within your being.

We all have traits that drag us into nonsense, yet instead of dealing with our own personal nonsense we will see ‘our’ faults in others and attack this fault in them, instead of dealing with the fault within…that is projection…that is the reason for the fall of man into this dimension.

DNA is king only in this dimension. DNA is nothing other than a receiver and transmitter of light. Your eyes do not see, your ears do not hear. Your ears collect vibrations and send them to the visual cortex in the brain. Your eyes collect light and send it to your primal visual cortex.

Therefore reality is in truth going on inside each of your brains at the point of the visual cortex.

When the light enters your eyes it is edited based upon your DNA programming…your DNA programming is, in the first instance, the mix between that of your mother and father, then the consequence of your education, cultural religion and the rules set out by those who control the DNA matrix…the one you know as Satan, the Anunnaki, Elohim…therefore the false god.

You have to understand then undo the DNA programming you have had inflicted upon you from your birth, that means everything you have learnt in school, from your parents, and most importantly from that which demands you call it god. Only then do you stand the chance of recognising who you really are. To understand this truth one then grasps the reality that all you learn in this dimension is for you to utilise in your journey of survival in this realm only, it is not the ultimate truth.

You are your own god, your own master, when you achieve this truth; you have no limitations save those you allow to limit you. Only then can you truly allow your instinct to guide you through all the false rules set by the matrix of fear...made so to prevent you discovering who you really are, to keep the system of fear in place so the masters of this world can continue to rule.

Your consciousness which is who you really are... is yours. It owes allegiance to no- one and no- thing, unless you allow it.

Remember to focus to this message not the messenger and you will open the path to conquer what is false within.

Concentrate to the messenger and you will fail, you will create another religion and become a fanatic in your worship of the messenger. True worship is to live your truth; true prayer is to allow yourself to exist as the representation of your inner or higher self... This requires great courage; courage appears when you have learnt to conquer fear. Courage is not how well you hit another face, courage shows itself to you as you break free of the fear of what others may think or say, having the will to fight what is false regardless of the consequences. Be not afraid to express who you are... only then will you learn...accept the consequences of you actions...do not project your failings onto others only then do you become REAL.

Be not afraid to be who you are. Be not afraid of any man or woman or institution in this dimension… this dimension in its current form is the fall. Those who control this dimension are those you call the demons. They control all the religions, the institutions and the word of god.

What you call god is false. The truth is we are all one; we are all expressions of pure unadulterated consciousness. All the systems in this dimension tell you, you are not. They command you obey their doctrine and use fear and damnation to keep you fixed in that subservience, like sheep unto their dictate always leading to the slaughter. If they start a war...let them and their children fight it...when was the last time any leader led you all in battle?...they do not. They stand behind their pulpit and box reading the names of those who have given their lives, then back to their office to design more plans for your death. There would be no war if they had to fight it themselves, they are the cowards, the freak show yet you offer them respect and your lives.

Become master of yourself and the demon lose, remain a sheep and the demon win... and turn this dimension into a prison which will destroy your chance to be free in this dimension for eternity. You will reincarnate back into this prison time and time again, without the ability to evolve beyond the DNA matrix of this fallen dimension.

Life…


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