Moving On - Children of the Children of God

	JudasChrist, August 6, 2002, 14:29 Hammer Revelation 666 A depiction of the lamb, the lion, deplorably portrayed The beast, the dragon, as in shadowy imagery, have the power to take away peace on earth The threshold's here as the sun turns black, the moon red like blood and stars falling down Babylon falling, the last of the antagonistic battles, The madman chained for a thousand of years Use your eyes and you will see it, bright and shining A moment of your time, a glimpse of your (brave) new world Your revelation, in apocalyptic terms, the hammer, separating fiction from reality Embrace the notion, embrace the moment Who are the ones to tell the truth, who are the ones to tell what to believe? The depiction is therefore all you've got The hammer is mine, the revelation is yours Am I God or am I the Devil? It's a comprehensible, yet complex, reality, because it means that when the past has caught up with the present, we have no future (reply to this post)
	Anthony, August 6, 2002, 23:08 Hammer Revelation 666 Again, How about you write your own lyrics, or give credit where it is due. Ever heard of plagiarism? Have a little originality. (reply to this post)
	JudasChrist, August 7, 2002, 02:05 CREDITS!!!! These lyrics R from my 2nd favorite band EVER!!!!! ZYKLON. The imprisoned 4-mer drummer of my favorite 4 band EMPEROR (the demise was last year), Bard "Faust" Ethun, wrote the lyrics. he is no longer serving time (HAIL FAUST), for stabbing a fag mercilessly. Anyway, the bands website is: www.zyklontribe.com www.emperorhorde.com www.swedishmetal.net (reply to this post)
	hobo, September 15, 2002, 06:28 Jesus! Judas Christ... next time just give us the web address & spare us your lyric copying! (reply to this post)
	Deranged1, September 15, 2002, 00:05 RIPOFF! JudasChrist, how about in the future you post where you got something from before someone else manages to figure out that you never actually wrote anything interesting here yourself? (reply to this post)

	JudasChrist(ImpaledNazerene)., August 2, 2002, 23:06 Isn't Satanism a brutal religion? What about curses? It is imagined that the Satanist's favorite pastime is throwing curses upon the weak, the susceptible. In reality, we live by the Golden Rule, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." And certainly, if you were to treat another person badly, without just cause, would you not expect to be treated poorly in return? Of course you would. Therefore the Satanist will, from time to time, become an instrument of karma, a destructive agent against those who have transgressed others. Properly thrown, a curse can redress the balance. Again, we do not speak of moral absolutes, but the universal constant, cause and effect as it applies to life. Let us provide a scenario; While you are out of town a stranger breaks into your house and rapes your wife. Law enforcement is notified, but the man is not apprehended. As if that weren't enough, you begin to receive obscene phone calls from public pay phones from this man, taunting your wife and jeering. Weeks go by and the stalker is unrelenting. Business calls you out of town again, but before you go, you purchase a gun for your wife and teach her how to use it. While you are gone, the stalker enters the house again. Your wife reaches for the revolver, unlatches the safety, points and fires at point blank range. The man dies. Or, I'll give you another scenario; you or your wife throws a curse on the stalker and he's killed in an accident. In either scenario, does the woman accumulate bad karma? Of course not, because there is no conflict of will. The stalker inwardly cries out for annihilation and it is evidenced by his actions! The reason Wiccans and Christians fail to see this is because they've been raised to fear and mistrust their natural instincts. Anger is considered a deadly, destructive emotion with no redeeming qualities. These people are not in touch with god or nature - they are lost souls. Conversely, the deluded Satanist falls right into the "dualistic trap" laid out for them by the Christian, Islamic and certain Hindu sects. Since these religions preach tolerance, brotherhood and kindness, they feel duty bound to react in a hateful, aggressive manner! Perhaps the worst thing one can do is mention the "L" word before a group of pseudo-Satanists because love is equated with weakness, hate with strength. In practice, however, quite the opposite is true. The spiritual religions are psyche-denying, of that there can be no doubt - they forbid emotions like anger and lust, but in doing so they burst upon us unbridled! The evangelist forms a compulsive need for hookers, Islamic fundamentalists become an angry, bloodthirsty mob, etc... The daemonic approach is to embrace the sum total of human experience; love and hate, joy and despair, empathy and indifference. One cannot achieve the pinnacle of ecstasy without having first experienced the very depths of gloom - it's a simple law of nature! As we traverse the Left Hand Path, we find perfect balance and strength at the matrix of this dichotomy. Yes, we inhabit a universe of conflict and duality, but the source of all life is the One, whose center is everywhere. (reply to this post)
	Anthony, August 3, 2002, 17:33 Isn't Satanism a brutal religion? What about curses? Satanism? Curses? karma? Religion? My dear fellow, we are now in the 21st century, why are you still holding on to the superstitions of primitive humans? Sounds like you & Rob have spent a great deal of time together. You do realize that there would be no Satanism if it weren't for Christianity, don't you? (reply to this post)
	yawn, August 4, 2002, 12:28 so much bullshit flying about I really hate people witnessing to me...especially the nauseatingly self-righteous "secular humanists" or whinging Satanists (in their various flavours). Wasn't that idea (no Satanism if it weren't for Christianity) the root of the argument that led to the guy behind Burzum (now languishing in prison I believe) murdering Euronymous from Emperor? BTW, am I right in thinking that one of the members of Children of Bodom used to be in Impaled Nazarene? (reply to this post)
	Anthony, August 4, 2002, 18:04 so much...flying about Yawnny, I'm not witnessing to you,(I know you didn't say that I was), I am simply helping my little brother in his search for whatever it is. No one asked you to read the post either. So, while I welcome views opposite to mine, please don't throw implicit accusations around. Regards, Anthony (reply to this post)
	JudasChrist, August 4, 2002, 17:27 Ya...Ur Right... The boys have changed. EMPEROR (my fav band), had 2 members go 2 jail. Faust killed Euronymous from Mayhem because he was gay and hit on him, Samoth the current guitarist/mastermind for ZYKLON (zyklon= the poisonous gas that killed jews in Nazi-era Germany), is the 1 from the 4-mer EMPEROR (how sad), that went 2 jail for burning churches. Read "Lords Of Chaos".....Cool book and can be found at ANY library....So who R U? 1st time I heard of a soul that knew about Impaled Nazerene, Burzum etc.....THAT'S the syle I play... www.goddamngod.20megsfree.com Look at the pic. page. (reply to this post)
	yawn, August 4, 2002, 19:01 thou shalt rock Heh, I seriously doubt that book is available in my local library...and its publisher doesn't exactly look...even handed. I'm really not into the whole devil thing, but I do know of some of the bands. Black metal isn't particularly my style, I prefer things to be totally guitar based, I'm not too keen on the synth that features in most black metal acts. BTW, is that picture on the index page of your website you? (reply to this post)
	JudasChrist, August 5, 2002, 03:32 YA, that pic is me... YA, YA. Me, why do U ask? (reply to this post)
	yawn, August 5, 2002, 13:23 well I asked because you aren't exactly the typical black metal fan...I mean, Count Grishnackh (Varg Vikernes), the guy behind Burzum is neo-nazi (see www.burzum.com or search on any search engine), at least after being jailed. And Burzum isn't the only openly racist Scandinavian black metal act. (reply to this post)
	JudasChrist, August 5, 2002, 14:27 Um....Actually!!! I know for a fact that Burzum is not racist. Neo-Naziism was a front. Much like Venom (the 3 piece "Satanic" metal group from England), did w/ all that Satanic stuff. After 5 years, they admitted 2 using it as a marketing tool. The North European bands (Mayhem etc..), were recieved well and since Judas Priest was the hardets thing around (@ the time), on radio etc...They picked up on it. In fact, a good percentage of Black Metal fans R Jewish (Chuck of "DEATH", who recently passed was Jewish), and Tom Araya (vocalist for Slayer), is American Indian, these guys have toured with Burzum and have played concerts and venues that R AGAINST a racist agenda. In fact, the Burzum publicists suggested that the "Neo-Nazi' thing would not be cool. Englands' Cradle Of Filth (the biggest Black Metal act.....Financially speaking, since EMPEROR's demise...And of course, Dimmu-Borgir---Meaning "Dark Church"), has a HUGE following that consists of Jews, Indians and Blacks.....Check Ur info guy....I AM the authority on the situation, that's all there is 2 it. It's best 2 leave things alone. (reply to this post)
	Haiden, May 19, 2003, 00:31 You are so full of shit first of all, Tom Araya isn't American Indian. He's from Chile. And second, Burzum (who only consists of Varg Vikernes) is a Neo-Nazi. I've spoke to the man myself, and I agree with all of his beliefs. And, no, a good percentage of Blak Metal fans ARE NOT jewish, as most blak metal fans know the true meaning behind most of the neo-nazi lyrics. I don't know who your sources are, but you need to get your facts straight buddy. (reply to this post)
	yawn, August 5, 2002, 17:07 Ooooooooooohkaaaaaaaaay Well, if you like the music then enjoy...but the Burzum website is linked to and CDs are sold from more than just a few of the bigger WP/NS sites (for example, see www.propatria.org/badbusiness/cd.htm) alongside bands such as Before God. Before God is a side project of a popular WP/NS band, Bound For Glory...you might not have heard of them but they are certainly not using the WP/NS thing as a marketing tool. (reply to this post)
	Ony, August 5, 2002, 04:47 where are you? Hey brother, where is that picture posted of you? I'll admit to being dumb this once. See ya! (reply to this post)
	JudasChrist, August 5, 2002, 10:19 My Picture And Website. The 1st page of my site has a picture of me. THis is is the address: www.goddamngod.20megsfree.com (reply to this post)
	Lance, August 3, 2002, 06:21 Kudos to you passion While I do give you mad props for your intrinsic perspective, I also have to acknowledge that it sounds like you've read too many self-help books for your own good. (reply to this post)
	Trisha..., August 3, 2002, 04:59 Judas you are awesome. Who are you Judas? I love the way you write, or even the fact that you post. Oh, I saw your website; nice picture. Cutie, cutie. You are very smart, some people left the cult and still can't think for themselves. I'll email you when I get off work. Peace baby. (reply to this post)

Anthony, August 1, 2002, 23:54
Happiness
Everyday that I'm alive, the idea of god suffers.
Anthony (reply to this post)

	Anthony, July 29, 2002, 20:42 POPE Why isn't that other cult leader, Pope John Paul II, dead yet? Interesting how the Catholics call him "Pope" and the COG FGAs call Berg "Dad". For those interested, the word or title Pope is derivartive from the Latin word Papa and Greek Pappas. Regards, Anthony (reply to this post)
	cm, July 29, 2002, 22:26 nope!!!! No Tony, noone was interested. We all learned that in Sociology 101. Thanks anyways. (reply to this post)
	Anthony, July 29, 2002, 23:19 POPE You're the only person in the entire world that I was not asking. See you later Charte Member--CM. Regards, Anthony (reply to this post)
	Joe, July 31, 2002, 18:56 actually his name is cum, he just can't spell it correctly or he'll giggle like a school girl (reply to this post)
	cm, July 31, 2002, 21:00 E tu Brutus?????? Juveniles. Surley the vast wealth of your combined intellects can deliver a more scintillating barage of disparging remarks. To criticize my comment would be acceptable but to ridicule my initials is simply insensate. (reply to this post)
	Ex-member, August 10, 2002, 18:06 It's Et tu Brute'. At least get the language right. (reply to this post)
	cm, August 10, 2002, 19:40 Et tu Brutus Thank you for your correction of my Latin (I will attribute it to intoxication). However while the name "Brute" was used in the Shakespeare play, the gentleman who the comment was directed to, was named Brutus, so either can be used. (reply to this post)
	Lance, August 10, 2002, 20:54 "you too my child?" " When he saw that he was beset on every side by drawn daggers, he muffled his head in his robe, and at the same time drew down its lap to his feet with his left hand, in order to fall more decently, with the lower part of his body also covered. And in this wise he was stabbed with three and twenty wounds, uttering not a word, but merely a groan at the first stroke, though some have written that when Marcus Brutus rushed at him, he said in Greek, 'You too, my child?' " Suetonius Life , LXXXII (reply to this post)
	Capt.Morgan, July 31, 2002, 21:21 CM= Is that the size of you dick in centimeters? 1cm. Why dont you go clone yourself so you can fuck yourself. (reply to this post)
	cm, August 1, 2002, 03:48 Once again Please see post above for response to this comment. It is a good idea though. In the words of Woddy Allen, "I am the best I ever had." (reply to this post)
	Ex-member, August 10, 2002, 18:09 Three words Seek help. -Fast! (reply to this post)
	cm, August 10, 2002, 19:44 beat it ANd you never masturbate??? (reply to this post)
	Anthony, July 31, 2002, 19:14 actually Fine with me as long as he doesn't come on me. Jesus would make a better recipient. (reply to this post)

	faeriraven, July 26, 2002, 13:11 "The Mark of the Beast" OK, so lets say the whole mark of the beast thing is real... who here is going to accept it? I know we started on the topic of chips and implants before, but I'm just curious to know who would actually take the mark in their forhead or hand... any imput? (reply to this post)
	neez, July 27, 2002, 22:19 Silicone implants Just as long as you can pick your own barcode style/colour/font/etc.. Only if it ain't the 'square of tin foil glued on your forehead'(or a magic markered 666) look. (reply to this post)
	Tim, July 26, 2002, 20:59 Mark of the Beast? I personaly think the MOB prophecies are refering to the credit/debit card thing. You carry the card in your right hand, and the PIN or signature in your forehead. Without them it's becoming very hard to buy or sell anything. Once you get one you are certainly dammned forever, a slave of the credit union, at least I have been. (reply to this post)
	cm, July 31, 2002, 02:49 MOB Would that make the 7 headed monster Visa, MC, Amex, Discover, Diners, Carte Blanche and Cash??? (reply to this post)
	Tim, July 31, 2002, 21:59 Just a offbeat thot "Oh what a tangled web we weave, when bible prophecy we belive" (reply to this post)
	cm, August 1, 2002, 03:52 Tim Talker You have deprived the world of a great gift by not becoming an author Tim. You are fantastic. (reply to this post)
	Lauren, July 28, 2002, 03:56 I'm not so sure about that Tim, it may be that way in some countries, but surprisingly, a lot of Europe is still very much a cash based society (there are so many places you can't use a credit card it gets frustrating). Likewise, in most of Africa, the ONLY way you can buy or sell is with cash. There are some countries that work with checks on a day-to-day (normal people, not just businesses) basis, and fewer still that have any form of debit system whatsoever. Isn't the "Mark" supposed to be some universal world-wide thing that applies to everyone? Taking the premise that the mark of the beast is a real thing and that it's supposed to apply to everyone in the world & taking the premise that it could possibly be the credit/debit thing as you suggest, it will still be decades before 90% of Africa would be able to be included in the plan. So it most likely will not happen in our lifetime. If the mark of the beast turns out to be real, then that would mean a serious "re-think" of many things because it would indicate that the Biblical description of the end events are relatively accurate. In which case there IS a God, there IS a Heaven and there is a Lake of Fire. In which case, I would probably not take the mark because there is also an Eternity, which I would rather not spend in said Lake of Fire. This is all based on the the assumption that said "mark" & "tribulation" turns out to be a real thing as described in the Book of Revelation. (reply to this post)
	Tim, July 31, 2002, 22:06 True that! I agree, I don't think I could belive in a God who throws people in hell forever just for writing a number on their skin. That was too petty, even for Berg. Also that part about "Ruling the nations with a rod of iron" Not very democratic, if the Family shepherds are going to be running things like that, than it's no wonder Satan has such an easy time convincing people to rebel at the end of the Millenium. I had to live under them for just 23 years, and I was ready to risk hellfire for my freedom! (reply to this post)
	trailerparkgirl, July 30, 2002, 10:19 Religious dialogue can sometimes turn violent... now kids... don't try this at home ;P GODLEY, Texas (Reuters) -- An argument over who was going to heaven and who was going to hell ended with one Texas man shooting another to death with a shotgun, police said Monday. The man charged in the slaying is a corrections officer. Johnny Joslin, 20, was allegedly shot by Clayton Frank Stoker, 21, on Sunday. The two had spent Saturday night bar hopping with two other men in Fort Worth, about 40 miles (65 kilometers) northeast of Godley. Johnson County Sheriff Bob Alford said a witness who was the designated driver for the group told police the four men were sitting at a table outside a trailer park after their night on the town and began arguing about religion. The talk became heated when the subject turned to who would go to heaven and who would go to hell. Stoker said he would settle the argument and went into a house and returned with a shotgun, which he loaded and placed in his mouth, Alford said the witness reported. "The victim Joslin then took the gun out of Stoker's mouth, saying, 'If you have to shoot somebody, shoot me,"' Alford said, citing the witness report. The shotgun went off, hitting Joslin in the chest and killing him. Stoker, a Johnson County corrections officer, has been arrested and charged with first-degree murder, Alford said. (reply to this post)
	Albatross, July 30, 2002, 16:25 hell it is guess now they both go to hell. (reply to this post)
	Anthony, July 30, 2002, 16:58 Hell It Is Can hell be worse than a trailer park? (reply to this post)
	Albatross, July 30, 2002, 23:49 depends on the company If Zerby and Kelly are there, it's quite possible. (reply to this post)
	Ca-Ca, July 28, 2002, 14:17 Cash based society? What cack! England is a very cardy country! In fact its such a problem that English people in general are very deep in debt due to plastic cards. Its a shame that England is NOT a more cash based society. (reply to this post)
	JohnnieWalker, July 30, 2002, 04:06 RE: Cash based society? Tis' not "cack". Just because England is a "cardy country" doesn't mean that the rest of Europe (which, BTW, includes poorer countries like Slovakia, Romania, Poland, two-thirds of Russia, three islands in the Bahamas and a large chunk of Texas) is also card crazy. Also, debt does not automatically follow the aquisition of a credit card but rather poor budgeting. And although I may have my card in my right hand during payment, the pin code often allows itself the liberty of leaving my forehead and the actual "home" of my credit card is in my back pocket. So since the Bible doesn't mention the rich and poor, free and slave receiving the mark in their forehead and "that part of the body which doth render due comfort to any he who sitteth upon it", I don't see how it would qualify as the much feard Bark of the Meast. (reply to this post)
	Ca-Ca, July 30, 2002, 14:45 More Cack I've been to Eastern Europe - & its extremely cardy too. I was able to flash my plastic sword around and buy ladies drinks and whatever you name it! And Poland is an up and coming affluent country BTW. I can't speak for the rest of the World, but in England is VERY easy to get credit for £30-40K while being practically a bum. Its making it easy for irresponsible people to get in debt. Ok there are pro's and con's & I don't care. I don't wear Calvin King underwear or anything like that. In fact I don't wear underwear cause its a modern invention! I use computers cause its essential for keeping up to date though. You have to give and take I guess. I guess we want to drink without a hangover. Well, better not to drink at all! (reply to this post)
	Ca-Ca, July 28, 2002, 17:03 Cash Based Society? Well, Jules if I had it my way, England would go back to trading without cards OR cash. The traditional way. The Amish way. If you ever remember how THAT works! (reply to this post)
	Jules, July 28, 2002, 17:43 Richman Poorman Isn't that something like "I'll trade you my lovely daughter for your barn"? Do they even have Amish in England? I thought they were all in North America. (reply to this post)
	Ca-Ca , July 28, 2002, 17:48 Wrong They do have Amish here. I'll trade your barn for a bullet. He-he. (reply to this post)
	Jules, July 28, 2002, 17:55 I mean apart from you I think there's more to it than the beard (perhaps a hat or two?) (reply to this post)
	Jules, July 28, 2002, 20:07 My apologies if you are not my wanna-be-amish friend I realised that if you are not my friend in the UK who is growing a beard to look Amish, (yes there is really someone like that) my previous comment could have seemed quite rude. My apologies if you are not him. (reply to this post)
	Ca-Ca, July 29, 2002, 14:56 Sex Farm Let's rock and roll Working on a sex farm Trying to raise some hard love Getting out my pitch fork And poking your hay Scratching in your henhouse Sniffing at your feedbag Slipping out your back door I'm leaving my spray Sex farm woman I'm gonna mow you down Sex farm woman I'll rake and mow you down Sex farm woman Don't you see my silo risin' high Working on a sex farm Hosing down your barn door Bothering you livestock They know what I need Working up a hot sweat I'm scretching in your pea patch Plowing through your beanfield Planting my seed Sex farm woman I'll be your hired hand Sex farm woman I'll let my offer stand Sex farm woman Don't you feel my tractor rumbling by by-by-byyyy Working on a sex farm Wolfing down some cornbread I'm turning on the tv Joining the grange. (reply to this post)
	Jules, July 28, 2002, 16:57 Rule Britannia Oh my god, have things really gotten that bad since I left the UK? Since when did England consider themselves part of Europe (or the continent as we used to call them)? Somebody should bring back Thatcher. (reply to this post)
	Alfswisdom, July 29, 2002, 12:51 they should bring back Enoch Powell as prime minister to kick all the pakis and spear chucking hottentots out of Britain. (reply to this post)
	Tea, July 29, 2002, 03:53 Tea ... and Reagan while we're at it. (reply to this post)
	Jerseygirl, July 26, 2002, 14:54 MOB If it means keeping my kids alive instead of being shot at (ha) then Bring it on! But arn't we already headed that direction anyways? I mean most of us are all"Registered" and shit. (reply to this post)
	VWBabe, July 27, 2002, 18:27 I agree I'm with Jersey - I'll take the fucking mark if it means living my life and protecting my family - bring it on baby!! (reply to this post)
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