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Anthony, November 14, 2003, 12:49
Cooking With Love
In food preparation, when it comes to meat, as a general practice, if the animal in question is cooked while it is still alive, I wonder if this will result in better tasting meat, since the pain and suffering the animal experienced while being cooked alive may have acted as a internal meat tenderizer by way of a nervous reaction and fear. If the animal where somehow made to understand why this is being done to it, the love and sacrificial giving of itself for humans may also contribute to a particularly loving and tasteful dish, assuming the animal is willing to give itself up for consumption.   (reply to this post)

re.gifUnrevolutionary Chef, November 14, 2003, 18:19
Au Contraire
Actually, I recently read a very good article in a major national newspaper(in the science section, I believe), regarding the ill effects on pigs (and the counter-gourmet effects on consumers of their affected meat) of the stress they experience in the typical setting where they are bred for slaughter in the U.S.

As a matter of fact,the poor quality of pork from stressed-out pigs is of such concern to the pork industry that it has veterinary scientists studying the pigs' experience, trying to understand it better and researching ways to decrease their level of stress. It turns out that the quantity of stress hormones the pigs' systems regularly inject into their blood stream is producing tough meat that spoils quickly. The exact opposite of your perverse little scenario there ;-)

Moral of the (true) story: suffering and sacrifice are not the be all end all and should not be set up as an obligatory life even for pigs, much less -- are you listening, Zerby, The Family? -- for your children! Even if you DO intend to butcher them and eat them you sick sadistic bastards, you'll have tough chewy chops full of gristle!
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re.gifAnthony, November 14, 2003, 22:33
Love: The Missing Ingredient
Pigs are naturally the trash of the meat world, so that's what you get for eating swine! Anyway, take a dumb sheep, mix in a little sacrificial love, and you may have a meal fit for royalty.

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re.gifUnrevolutionary Chef, November 15, 2003, 22:41
So you're saying
Pork...the other white trash?
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re.gifAnthony, November 17, 2003, 14:56
Don't Put Uncooked Words In my Mouth: It Gives Me Indigestion.
Are you what you eat?
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re.gifJerseygirl, November 14, 2003, 17:03
Kim in the Kitchen
A little too much time on your hands there? In any case let us know how it goes---or not. :-)
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re.gifAnthony, November 14, 2003, 18:17
Ken In The Kitchen
Actually, I don't have enough time on my hand, just ask my boss. But I just figured that if I was to busy too share my love cooking tips, then I'm just too damn busy and could use a little break.
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"The Family" Provisioning Department, October 22, 2002, 23:46
Just thought we'd keep you up to date on our favorite provisioning item
In pharmacology all drugs have a generic name.

Panadol is Paracetamol,
Amoxil is Amoxicillin,

And so on.

The Federal Drug Agency has been looking for a generic name for Viagra
and it has announced that it has settled on:


Also considered were Mycoxafloppin, Mydixadropin, Mydixarizen and

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Anthony, October 2, 2002, 21:04
Museum of Questionable Medical Devices
This is really a laugh, and sometimes interesting too:


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re.gif, December 31, 2002, 00:10

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re.gifAnthony, January 15, 2003, 12:45
New Device
I'm currently developing a new device to enlarge/enhance my tongue la Gene Simmons, or maybe I'll just use silicon and try to keep it from becoming a silly con. Think this would make a great gift for my next lover.
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re.gifHolon, December 31, 2002, 22:01
I'm ok with it now......
The swelling has gone down now and I am happy with my belly button but I am having the hips done again, because they didnt take enough skin off them. I'm not looking forward to that again at all. I better look great this time next year.I cant wait to go tanning again.

Staying out of the sun and heat has been really hard.I live in Florida so there isnt much excape from that, but I'm doing my best.

all in all I have to say that I am happy with it now.

why did you have so much skin? did you have twins too?
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What have I done?, July 20, 2002, 21:44
Abdominoplasty,a big mistake?????
I had an abdomino plasty with lipocuction on the hips a week ago and I'm very unhappy with it.

My belly button looks very large and inverted.Has anyone reading this had this done and, also thought there belly button looked very strange, but it turned out ok?????  (reply to this post)

re.gifAuty, September 7, 2002, 21:47
It takes some time
I never had lipo or adomino surgery, but I did have my breasts enlarged several years back and when they took the bandages off I started crying. They were just about the ugliest things I ever saw in my whole life . . .HUGE (DD's) and hard as rocks. Bruises from my nipple (procedure was done threw the nipple) all the way around my back. My boyfriend was in shock as well. Besides the fact of me being in pain & barely able to move around, they were so disgustingly horrible looking.

Happy ending to the story, being a professional dancer I have never had a complaint. They healed very well, although they took several months and a shopping spree at Victoria Secrets I really do love them. I know that once the swelling goes down and the initial pain you will be absolutely gorgeous & very happy with your results. The "Happy Face" scare will fade in time, I've had several girlfriends that had this procedure and the scare is barely noticeable unless pointed out.

Hats off to you & good luck.
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re.gifAnthony, September 9, 2002, 22:48
It Takes Some Thought
Just one question, why did you post to the whole world that you're a "professional" dancer?
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re.gifAuty, September 10, 2002, 17:00
Why not? I'm not ashamed of it.
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re.gifJoeH, September 10, 2002, 16:28
cause it's nothing to be ashamed of!
whether she's a "professional" will require a in-depth viewing of her dancing skills. we've all seen un-professional stripping, both in and out of the cult.
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re.gifAuty, September 12, 2002, 10:14
I have to agree
I've seen plenty of those myself! LOL! But they are fun to watch, just to get a little chuckle out of. All about entertainment.
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re.gifAuty, September 10, 2002, 17:01
let's but it this way . . .
how's 9 years doing it sound? LOL! And who said I was a "stripper"?
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re.gifJoeH, September 11, 2002, 08:30
I'm sensitive in the spirit
Be careful with me. I know more than you think, heheh
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re.gifAnthony, September 11, 2002, 11:03
Sin sitive Spirit?
It also helps that she said it in the Get Skinny article, unless "exotic dancer" and "stripper" are two different things.
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re.gifAuty, September 12, 2002, 10:13
for a "professional" they are two different things
. . .to the boys in the real world they are one in the same. I have no shame on what I have had to do to survive and I take pride that I can support myself and my little family. Perhaps this is the only thing (and option) that the group left some of us girls. At least now I am in control instead of feeling so used.
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re.gifCherishL (A.K.A. Cherish Ety), January 5, 2003, 01:50
yo, mama, I can relate to the way the way you stated that the group left some of us with no other options, and that know you feel in control rather than being used! I've got to say though, don't ever feel that you have to justify your actions or intentions to anyone other than yourself! Frankly, I'd rather hear about an independant woman such as yourself than a flakey ex-cog chick who leaches on and abuses other people.

All I can hope for is that as you make progress in life you are able to find an alternate means of making ends meet.
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re.gifJoeH, September 12, 2002, 10:32
Good for you!
I'm proud of you, the world needs more post-modern women. I dated a stripper for a couple months and neither one of us took any shame in it, in fact I practically boasted of it (to my family and close friends only of course) Great sex too!
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re.gifAnthony, September 10, 2002, 17:26
Who said
hummm, I wonder.
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re.gifAbsolutely!, September 8, 2002, 21:04
Wait until the healing period is over.
Yes, I agree. I had the opposite. I had a lift and reduction, and after the healing period, I was overwhelmed with the results. My chest looks like a Greek sculpture, perfect in every way. I've also had other kinds of facial cosmetic surgery. The more drastic, the longer the healing period. But, scars fade, and 9 times out of 10, one is very pleased with the results. The tenth time is, usually, just someone who wanted more drastic results. So, hang in there. It's the 21st century, cosmetic surgery is just good grooming. ;)
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re.gifMorloth, July 25, 2002, 16:55
Munter watch
You bint
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re.gifSunny, July 23, 2002, 20:42
Keep your shirts on, Ms.
I've always thought that all that cosmetic surgery isn't meant to look good when uncovered. A flat stomach looks good when you wear a dress, etc, but you can't just leave it uncovered and expect a big scar to look good. That's one thing that keeps me from considering it. I hope it heals for you though, and like Jules said, I'm sure it will just take time. Let us know how things turn out. I'm curious.
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re.gifAuty, September 7, 2002, 21:52
I beg to differ
Not necessarily true Chiyoko (Sunny) about keeping your shirts (or bras or skirts) on. A lot of women I know and work with have had multiple surgery's done and unless they pointed out their scars you could barely tell. It also depends on your skin type etc., your statement is wrong when you say "cosmetic surgery isn't meant to look good when uncovered."
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re.gifRight!, September 8, 2002, 21:09
Cosmetic sugery has progressed.
Cosmetic surgery rarely leaves scars. It improves one's looks, not the opposite. Even when I had emergency surgery, a c-section, I have no scar to show for it a year later. It completely faded, and that surgery was done in an emergency to save my child's life. So, all that to say, medicine has progressed. Most cosmetic surgeons are artists.
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re.gifme, the worry wart:-), July 23, 2002, 23:05
I dont really care about the scar
It's really big though ( from hip to hip) but it's just the swelling I guess.And the fact that when I show people my belly button they say " Oh, my god!"" What the hell is that"! It's so huge!. But anyhow, I called the nurse (for the 10th time this week) LOL! and I fell a bit better about things. She swears that I will look great in about 6 weeks so we'll see.I still cant fit into my clothes but things better change real soon!I'll let you know what happens. I get the "after " pictures taken in 4 weeks so maybe I'll show you the before and after pictures.( if I look normal again)LOL!
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re.gifJules, July 22, 2002, 09:50
Such a worry-wart :-)
It takes up to 6 weeks for the swelling to subside after surgery, and it can take up to 6 months for things to heal properly. A friend had rhinoplasty and it took ages for it to heal and they freaked at first. I'm sure it will turn out beautifully.
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re.gifVWBabe, July 24, 2002, 09:58
I also had that done
Worry wart :) - I also had this procedure done. It was only a miniabdominalplasty, but I also had a large scar. It actually takes about 10 months for the redness to go away and the full-effect of the surgery to show.
Just a point - if you're ever upset about how you look while you heal, ask your doctor to show you your pre-op photos - believe me - you'll feel GREAT!!!
Once you're completely healed, you'll be SOOOO happy.
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re.gifme, the worry wart:-), July 25, 2002, 21:14
Thank you
Thank's VWBabe,Were you also very swellen? or do you think that's from the liopsuction?

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re.gifVWBabe, July 26, 2002, 10:00
Couldn't say
Did you a a complete abdominalplasty?
See, I didn't, so no, there was no swelling or anything since I didn't have lipo, just some skin removed. So, I wouldn't know about that.
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re.gifHolon, July 27, 2002, 00:07
it was a full abdominoplasty, new belly-button and all so I think it was very tramatic to my body.they removed 2 very large amounts of skin.( I had twins) so that's why I did it in the first place.The lipo was just done on my hips.But it's been just over 2 weeks now and it's not as painful as it was when I first posted about it.They took out the stiches from my belly-button on wed but it still looks bad.I just have to wait some more and see.
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re.gifVWBabe, July 27, 2002, 16:27
That's recent
Oh wow - so it's real recent then - yes, then I would have to agree with you that it looks pretty weird right now. Even mine tool a while to look like anything pleasant. Wait for 2 or 3 months and you'll be a lot happier. It usually takes that amount of time for the body to get used to it.
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re.gifAlf, July 25, 2002, 12:29
A question
Why dont you just cut down on the pork pies and get some exercise? For a fraction of the price of plastic surgery Alf will provide you with his special 'happy and whole in body and soul' handbook.
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re.gifVWBabe, July 26, 2002, 10:04
Cologin - nothan explination for the simple
Actually sweet alf, you can't have this sort of surgery if you're fat. You have to loose all the weight and they just remove excess skin/stretch marks depending on what your problem is. If your skin has no elasticity/cologin in it, when you have kids, your skin will not go back to it's pre-pregancy "look", hence the need for some to have this procedure. Of course, you'll never have to worry about that, or you might once you finish your sex change.
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re.gifJerseygirl, July 25, 2002, 13:43
Handbook order
Alf,please send me one of these handbooks!-waiting with bated breath-Jersey
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re.gifJoe, July 25, 2002, 15:47
the mierda is free
but it costs something to pipe it to you. You have to tithe to the GAMR if you want more of Alf's inspiring words of wisdom.
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re.gifJoe, July 25, 2002, 15:47
the mierda is free
but it costs something to pipe it to you. You have to tithe to the GAMR if you want more of Alf's inspiring words of wisdom.
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