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Eman, September 17, 2001, 14:32
Could someone help me out? Alright, I would just like some clarification on what the abbreviations you guys use on this site mean (like NDN and FGA, etc...)
thanks in advance  (reply to this post)

re.gifporceleindoll, September 17, 2001, 20:39
RE: Abbreviations
NDN= New Day News (
FGA= First Generation Adult (those who joined the Family about 30 years ago or weren't born into the group)
SGA= Second Generation Adult (those born into the group)
CM= Charter Member (full time members, the hard core)
FM= I forgot, but the second level members, looser rules, but still receive mailings

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re.gifIan, September 17, 2001, 23:11
more abbreviations
insane sick fucker = (see NDN)

weirdo = David Freelence

weirdo's cousin = Mark Asia

babylon = I'm not real sure on this one, apparently anything that's not very understood, ie: Stock Market, Large Cities, Civilization, Large Buildings.

Jules board = some "naughty" place on the internet that were not allowed to look at.

Holon's board = (see Jules board)

"Another fine post brought to you by Ian"
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re.gifEman, September 18, 2001, 11:44
RE: more abbreviations
Thankx, porcelain... but you forgot:
Ian = funny guy

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Jules, September 13, 2001, 21:31
Some thoughts on the NDN and old ex-members
IMO the people on the NDN and the other websites suck. They are baby boomers who joined and were dumb enough to stay in the Family for years and they all suck. (And if you are one of these older ex-members reading this then don’t be offended. You are a glutton for punishment. I have made no secret about this opinion from the time this website first launched.)

To explain specifically who these people are who suck is a bit pointless here since they are not welcome to come and defend themselves. We could open the site up for debate on this topic, but the NDN is doing such a good job of this already that I think they should stick with it. If we are in agreement on this, then let’s move on.

Let me be clear that this website is not about sugar coating our opinions or thoughts. It was designed to be a place that we own, and where we can speak our truth in our voice, with none of the control freaks that we have had to deal with our whole lives trying to ram their opinions down our throats. IMO, their opinions are like the current Family doctrines—who cares what they are.

This website is “ours”, not “mine”. I designed it, but it would be very boring if it was just me rambling on about all the strange things I think. So whatever people want to write about is okay with me—that’s the point of this. This is just my opinion on things, and if people think differently, please do say so—say whatever you want.   (reply to this post)

re.gifronnie, September 14, 2001, 06:56
RE: Some thoughts on the NDN and old ex-members
This old man agrees with you.
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re.gifporceleindoll, September 17, 2001, 20:42
RE: Some thoughts on the NDN and old ex-members
I checked it out a number of times to find out what the Family's take on this situation is, but it has rapidly degenerated into one hell of a mess over there with arguing, bitching, attacking, it's not worth it. I for one would like a place to communicate with the Family leadership and find out answers to the millions of questions I have concerning Family policy, beliefs, etc, I had hoped I could find something there, but haven't yet.
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re.gifJules, September 18, 2001, 08:11
RE: Some thoughts on the NDN and old ex-members
That was actually what I was trying to say.
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