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what classification was there for those who joined and were under-age?

from AKA: daniel kingson, aka: joseph newlife - Tuesday, July 12, 2005
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I was wondering what classification was there for those who joined and were under-age. We were too young to be FG or were'nt actually born as SGs. What about F(1/2)Gs or (-)SGs, or how about "YOU LEFT US OUT GENERATION" kids, let me see that would be YLUOG? What do you think. I'm sure there were alot of us.

Oh, I know, how about "FGs & SGs FORGOT ABOUT US GENERATION" that would be FGSGFAUG.
Any ideas out there

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from conan
Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 10:40

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Are you serious about this question? Holy fuck dude, are you that insecure about your place in a cult's made up realm of labels for age groups that you had to start this thread up? Who the fuck gives a flying fuck? You joined of your own free will and now are looking for a way to excuse the choices you made when you were young and dumb? Please!! Just be happy you reversed your decision. Even if it did take you years to realize that you were a dumb fuck for joining, you're out now. So who cares what you should have been called and what you should be called now! G-zus fucking Christ, this is the lamest, dumbest, most insignificant thing I've read on here in a long time.
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from Nick
Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 08:45

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Who the fuck cares what you would have been called in TF?! I mean your out now so you are just a person, no names needed.

Just the sound of FGA, YA, JETT and whatever other weird name they gave us makes me quiver.

Right now I am a ALB! Alcoholic Limey Bastard...
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from
Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 04:02

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My mom was recruited through her school at 15, they got to her and she believed she had no choice when they told her to "forsake all and become fishers of men" at 16.
She had little experience of life and was not mature enough to join any organisation, or to make such a decision without all the facts.

In the army WW1, there was a big problem with underage boys 14-15 signing up. I believe the army was held responsible for "turning a blind eye" to the situation.

I would consider that education in schools about cults and the dishonest and manipulative technics they use should be widespread.

Tf can never play by the rules and IMO, they never will.
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From
Wednesday, July 13, 2005, 09:19

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The guy that's recruited and joins the military only to die in Iraq cannot blame his choices on the recruiters. The difference between TF and the Military is that in TF they always had the freedom to leave. We were smart enough to leave after having TF's crap indoctrinated in us our whole lives, the 15 year old new recruit should've known better. Obviously there was something in the group that tickled their fancy to justify them staying in. (reply to this comment
From
Wednesday, July 13, 2005, 09:28

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In the military ,you know what you're going in for, there's no nasty surprises.

TF was different.

They were told they were smart enough to join the lords army and condemmed in every writing to stay.

The point about WW1 was that the onus was on the army to background check and make sure they weren't employing minors. (even if the minors lied about their age)

Joining TF before 18 and TF allowing it could be described as crimminal, due to minors not having the maturity to decide, the confidence to dissent/leave, or to grow independant of TF should they so choose to.

TF always recruit in schools and universities-I wonder why!

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Wednesday, July 13, 2005, 11:16

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I have friends who's assholes would beg to differ!

One dude was raped so bad he went crazy. On the plus side, he got an early honorable discharge...(reply to this comment

From P.S.
Wednesday, July 13, 2005, 11:18

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In response to: "In the military ,you know what you're going in for, there's no nasty surprises." - Yeah right!
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From
Wednesday, July 13, 2005, 16:54

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Well maybe we in the west know that the millitary is not all that-plus a few reality T.V shows- anyone in the west who does join the army should know that they'll be fighting, maybe dying for a rich man's wars, so in that respect, they're arn't too many surprises-or, one should not be surprised.... (reply to this comment
From
Wednesday, July 13, 2005, 09:30

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no sex or ciggies till you're 16.
no alcohol till you're 18 (USA) 21
driving 17
voting at 18

But you can join a cult!(reply to this comment
from ?
Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 02:18

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Why should there be a separae classification for those who *joined* when they were underage? IMO, anyone who joined of their own free will is an FGA, and anyone unlucky enough to be born into the cult or forced to tag along with their parents is an SGA.

Who cares if you were 18 or 17 (or even 16) when you joined. You still made a concious decision to abandon the family that raised you and join a cult.
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From vixen
Wednesday, July 13, 2005, 00:52

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I was five when my mum joined and although I have some memories of my life before TF, I consider myself completely an ex-SGA. A child under the age of 18 who joined through having to tag along with his/her parents would not be considered an FGA, IMO, the principal factor being that they still did not have a choice in whether or not they joined. Of course, had any teenagers been forced to join and subsequently hated it, they would only have had to wait a few years before they were 'of age' to leave, and so probably had an easier time doing so since they had not been indoctrinated from an early age. (reply to this comment
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From afflick
Wednesday, July 13, 2005, 02:22

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But even if a preteen or teen joins with a parent, they may have to stay in until they are of legal age. Depending on their outside-relations situation, they may stay in even longer. Being stuck in a cult is easy when you are young, alienated from your family, uneducated, and knocked up (as many young "joinees" were by the time they reached legal adulthood). Therefore, if someone arrived in The Family as a minor brought on by a legal guardian I would classify that as SGA.(reply to this comment
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Wednesday, July 13, 2005, 02:31

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Exactly, anyone who had to tag along. But in Daniel Kingston's case, he joined of his own free will (I think).(reply to this comment

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