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Getting Through : Lighten Up
What would you give for David's healing? | from murasaki - Wednesday, September 19, 2007
accessed 1100 times Anyone remember a wierd prophecy from one of those weird fasts we use to have so that "grandpa would't die"? I was having a conversation a while ago about bizarre prophecies from the fam and I recalled one from one of the "fasts" way back, must have been in the late 80s 'cause Berg was still alive. Anyway, the prophecy went "Will you give your penis for David's healing?" and the poor guy getting the prophecy answered, "yes Lord, if it will help?".
I was quite young and I assume this was a BAR pub because I don't recall coming across it since them. It was however, etched into my mind because I remember some of the adult men sharing their lessons about it, trying to "get the victory" about being so selfish as to not instantly offering up their members for the healing of the prophet, which as a kid I naturally thought to be absolutely hilarious.
So the point of this post is that I brought this up not too long ago with someone still somewhat affiliated with the fam, and they were adamant that they could remember no such prophecy. To the point where I began to doubt the existance of the memory myself. Like I said, I was quite young, but the memory seems to be clear. I was just wondering if anyone else remembers and can corroborate my memory. Cheers! |
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Reader's comments on this article Add a new comment on this article |  from Baxter
Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 15:59
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I remember it well. I remember it because I laughed out loud when it was read out at devotions, and got a crack on the head for my trouble. What a load of crap!!!
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|  From ErikMagnusLehnsher
Saturday, September 22, 2007, 16:13
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It's during discussions like this that I sometimes wish I could "butterfly effect" back in time and cheerfully volunteer at devotions: "Why Hell...I'd be more than happy to give my rat's ass."
I remember that fast well. There has been other fast days but I couldn't remember a 3 dayer prior to this and none where so much reading material was included. I was bored out of mind but had so much drinkable yoghurt over the course of the fast that I soon had more...shall we say...pressing matters to tend to. I wrote a poem about it and posted it a couple of years ago with the title "Family Fast Days" or something like that.(reply to this comment) |
| | From conan
Saturday, September 22, 2007, 22:56
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You must be referring to the gem of a film starring the very talented Ashton Kutcher, no? Perhaps you only saw a few parts and not the whole thing? I don't give a fuck about spoiling movies for people who are stupid enough to read past a spoiler alert, so spoiler alert, he is unable to change any of the horrible things that happen to him or the love of his life despite his 'Butterfly Effect' moments. Ashton truly showed his range tho, going from lovable loser to lovable loser, er umm I mean, winner of course, until some other faction his 'improvement' unraveled. Sure, he had that one fantastic moment where he told off her dad for being a pedophile pervert, but otherwise, his greatest success was pre-natal suicide (I told you that I was going to spoil the movie for all you who haven't seen it :D).
Let's make a 'New Rule' that you can never refer to an Ashton Kutcher film that is not something in reference to "Dude!...Sweet!...Dude!...Sweet..." ever again. Everyone agreed?
And thennnnnnnnnnnnnnnn?????
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| | From fragiletiger
Sunday, September 23, 2007, 04:36
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect
The butterfly effect is a phrase that encapsulates the more technical notion of sensitive dependence on initial conditions in chaos theory. Small variations of the initial condition of a nonlinear dynamical system may produce large variations in the long term behavior of the system. So this is sometimes presented as esoteric behavior, but can be exhibited by very simple systems: for example, a ball placed at the crest of a hill might roll into any of several valleys depending on slight differences in initial position.
The phrase refers to the idea that a butterfly's wings might create tiny changes in the atmosphere that ultimately cause a tornado to appear (or prevent a tornado from appearing). The flapping wing represents a small change in the initial condition of the system, which causes a chain of events leading to large-scale phenomena. Had the butterfly not flapped its wings, the trajectory of the system might have been vastly different.
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| | From conan
Sunday, September 23, 2007, 09:34
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See, I'm aware of all that, but if you'd read the original comment by EML you'd see that his reference to 'The Butterfly Effect' involve a flashback to his childhood where he'd have a moment where his current self would be able to control his childhood body and be a wise ass at devotions. This particular scenario is carried out time after time in the really, really really, really bad film i mentioned earlier. I'm sure he was trying to be funny, and I wasn't taking him to literally...but as far as the theory goes, it has nothing to do with flashbacks into your childhood to try and fix an event(s) that caused traumatic repercussions for the rest of your life.
That being said, I know what the *butterfly effect* theory is, and had EML addressed the theory and not a side effect of a bad movie, we wouldn't be having this lame tete-a-tete.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | From Weeder
Friday, September 28, 2007, 04:19
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I lived in Japan. The stuff we used to get was in big brown paper sacks. It was was kind of brown colored powder/grain, & then they boil it into a kind of mush. We ate it with pure unsweetened molasses and milk made from provisioned powdered baby formula. Really tasted awful! But actually really healthy now that I think about it. I guess there's a bright side to everything. Yeh! (reply to this comment) |
| | | | | | | | | | | From rainy
Friday, September 28, 2007, 04:47
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Oh, that brought back a memory. When a family came to Australia from the HCS, at breakfast one of the kids was offered sugar on his cereal. Having never seen raw sugar before, he assumed it was white sugar, and stood up with conviction and announced: "I believe that white sugar is a killer and thief and it goes against my convictions to eat it!" Oh, we just roared with laughter. Because of course we were all brought up with the exact same strict rules and it had never occurred to us that raw sugar could look like white sugar to someone who'd only ever seen brown sugar...okay done now.(reply to this comment) |
| | | | | | | | from figaro
Friday, September 21, 2007 - 21:15
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I love how any sort of male on male sexual contact was forbidden, but yet he made his male servants kiss his royal penis.
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| | | | from Phoenixkidd
Friday, September 21, 2007 - 12:50
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Oh geez yes I remember this, I thought it was in late 1991, when we all had that 3 day fast, where we drank this disgusting onion cabbage soup. That was around the same time that we drew over all the bad pix in the True komix, heaven's girl, heaven's children etc...
I remember reading it and everyone almost grinning and laughing at it, but "praising the lord anyway" for the craziness of our prophet. I remember he goes "and would you give your pum for David?" and we all just smirked.
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| from AndyH
Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 23:00
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Now that is some twisted shit! And here I thought I couldn't be shocked at this point! HA! Fucking perverts!
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| from Fish
Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 20:42
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Yeah, I remember that GN quite clearly. It came out during the first groundbreaking wretched 3 day "fast", before it morphed into the "feast" we all know and love. The cover of the GN had a picture of family members getting out "the meat of the word" and another of the bearded "Dad" munching on a hamburger saying, "Wow, meat!" The "message" of the GN was that the family was failing to get out the "meat of the word", and if they began to do so "Dad" would be able to eat meat. How this was meant to serve as an incentive is beyond me.
The prophecy went pretty much as you stated, except for at the end there was something to the effect of "I heard the words 'transplant' quite clearly". Penis transplant, anyone?
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| | | | From rainy
Friday, September 21, 2007, 06:30
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I wonder if he got the idea off Gandhi, who would fast until he got the result he wanted. I definitely remember the general question, but not the GN itself.
When I was a young teen there was this great guy, Uncle Steven, and he had a cancer on his shoulder. I got it into my head that as he was something of a bulwark to teens and young people everywhere against all the unbearableness, his life was more valuable than mine. So I asked God to give me the cancer instead. Shortly after that he started to get better and I thought I knew why. I was fully expecting to die. :)(reply to this comment) |
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | From murasaki
Friday, September 21, 2007, 00:37
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LOL, you've certainly got a good memory. Or have you gone back to "review" and meditate on the "Word"? Now that you mention it, I do vaguely remember that bit about the transplant. I think this was the fast where we weren't allowed to watch movies for 6 weeks or something. Anyway, I doubt I would have remembered it except for it being brought up in "heart sharing. Thanks for that, good to know my memory hasn't completely failed me yet. Family folks can have such selective memory at times. ;)(reply to this comment) |
| | from madly
Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 20:42
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These are the things I don't want, or need, to remember. Damn... did I really live with that shit for 18 years? You have got to be fucking kidding me!!
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| from Nick
Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 07:27
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I do remember something like that. I defiantly remember some pub about giving your penis for the lord or "grandpa", but don't remember specifics.
I also have a similar memory on the same lines.
I remember reading a pub a LONG time ago, prob early 80's, where Berg was at a mtg with all the main leaders and each one of the leaders had to one by one kiss his penis in order to show loyalty. Does anyone remember that?
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