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get over it already

from tobi - Monday, April 12, 2004
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life could have been a whole lot worse

like the title of the site, move on already and quit the bitching

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from ChrisG
Thursday, July 29, 2004 - 18:25

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Life could have been a whole lot better too...which is why I am not going to forget about my past. I am going to bitch about it until I feel like stopping--which at this rate is going to be a very long time. I think that every time I face a bit of my past by talking about it, a little bit of healing takes place. I have been out of the family for almost three years now, and I am just starting to realize how fucked up it really was, and how much it fucked me up. I have to suppress my past most of the time---at work, at school, with my friends---make up a fictitious upbringing---so why can't I have one place to let it all out and whine and bitch about it? Why don't you go find a site like www.stayindenial.com and post on there?
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from tdemp
Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 03:20

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Dude, I hear what your saying, and I agree with your point. But there are some people who are just not ready to let go. Everyones individual experiences in the family varied greatly, and some were hurt worse than others. Consider you`re self luck that you don`t have to much emotional baggage thats preventing you from moving on. But Is a little simplistic to think that someone who spent 10-20 years in a sheltered closed society, and experienced either psychological or physical abuse can just snap out of it at the drop of a hat. Its a gradual healing process and were all at different stages, some more advanced than others. and some will never get past It.
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From Wolf
Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 21:14

Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5(Agree/Disagree?)
And others who post here have already “let go” but like having a laugh about things that nobody elsewhere understands … or taking the opportunity to poke fun at both the cult and former fellow cultists. Who knows, that anonymous poster may be the OC tattle-tell who was responsible for many a missed video night, or the toddler you were forced to share a potty with… (reply to this comment
from GoldenMic
Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 16:04

Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5(Agree/Disagree?)

Wow, Tobi, I know this issue has been discussed many times on this site, but I think its important that somebody take the time, each time, to respond to somebody suggesting that the cult experience is something to "get over" as just another story of childhood inconveniance.

In truth, my first reaction was similar to what you have already seen here, and I too felt like spewing out my reaction to feeling insulted and belittled by your cavalier minimization of SO much pain and oppression.

I know your last responses to other comments were sarcastic and rather scatological in tone, but I am wondering if you actually have a question? Do you actually want to know WHY a person cannot, and should not, just "buck up" and get over it?

It makes me wonder, are you 1) so damaged from your own cult experience that you must lash out and hurt others through insensitivity? 2) so out of touch with your own past that you actually think you are "over it"?, or 3) a typical outsider, stupidly assuming you actually have the right to judge a kind of destruction and pain that you have not personally experienced?

Anyway, I believe it is immoral to ignore evil, and what happens to children in cults is EVIL. Also, what did happen is likely still happening, and thats a good reason to continue to draw attention to it. Finally, any honest or thoughtful analysis of human psychological processes makes it clear that one does not simply "get over" an abusive past by ignoring or minimizing it, but by bearing witness to it and by re-claiming one's dignity in speaking out against it.

Why would ANY decent person wish to insult or deride the honest work of others in seeking freedom from the past. Do you seriously doubt that the abuses occurred, or that they were not WAY beyond decency? Why, then, would you choose to surf this site, where honest self-exploration is valued, simply to demean and belittle others who are finding their way? I am glad you are here, but I wonder why YOU want to converse with those who, by being here, make it clear that it is not yet time to let it all go.

I look forward to any thoughts you have on this subject.


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from Shaka
Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 20:45

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Kiss my ass with your tongue out, then treat yourself to a jug of arsenic. Die slow motherfucker!
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From tobi
Thursday, April 15, 2004, 12:05

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ooh so yr gay too, oh fun can we make it three-some?(reply to this comment
from Sharon
Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 10:36

Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5(Agree/Disagree?)
Please look up all the other articles posted that have the same content as yours and read the responses, then kindly go fuck yourself.
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From tobi
Thursday, April 15, 2004, 12:06

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well for one thing if i really wanted to fuck myself it wouldn't be kindly, i like it dirty(reply to this comment
From The Grammar Nazi of the Trailer Park
Thursday, April 15, 2004, 12:33

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She didn't tell you to fuck yourself kindly, she told you kindly to go fuck yourself. There's a difference.(reply to this comment
From tobi
Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 08:23

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my bad i blame it all on my childhood =P lack of schooling due to the excessive hours in the dreadful sun busking and passing out lit(reply to this comment
From Oddman
Sunday, January 09, 2005, 21:22

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So you do have stuff to bitch about, and do blame your past on the cult we came from. Don't deny it. We all have the god given right to hate the people and group that gave us a hell of a childhood. True it could have been a lot worse, but it also could have been better. No matter if you've told your best friends about your upbringing, you just can't joke about it the same way. I agree it's a slow healing process. I think for a lot of us, bitching and whining is much like therapy. When I go to work and sit at my desk making my boss his money, all of this is behind me, and in my personal life, I do not brood on this part of my past. I just think we should be lenient on people who still take time to recover and adapt to the real world. It's a gradual process. (reply to this comment
From Shaka
Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 08:57

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Kinda slow on the draw, ain'tcha?(reply to this comment
From Elle
Thursday, April 15, 2004, 12:36

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Well said, Joe!(reply to this comment

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