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load of crock!!!!

from Sydney - Wednesday, March 08, 2006
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I've removed the first post here, as I was just pissed off when I wrote it... and I didn't mean to imply that beauty was all that mattered... as that’s certainly not the case... I was emotional and not thinking rationally.
When I wrote this because of having had this particular family and this particular girl make my life hell while in the family.

My actual personal family has been torn apart by this particular family and as a result I have not seen some of my siblings for nearly two years now nor had any phone contact.
There were many times I missed out on things in the family because this girl
So I was very upset when reading her Conclusion
(A) took over projects I started and then got all the credit while I was then banned from helping out on the things I started
(B) her parents hated me and my family.
C) Wanted my friends (what this girl wanted this girl got so her parents would have little talks to my friends parents that maybe they should start hanging out with this girl instead of me. and her parents being the leaders who was going to refuse that)
(D) got one of my best friends banned from ever seeing me (so my best friend left the family so she could)
(E) was so spiteful and mean to anyone around her who had a boyfriend (not me I was ugly as a teen ...see told you beauty was not the issue….but anyone else who had a boyfriend who was not part of her family quickly picked on by her parents)
she was horrible to those who was pretty, who was thinner then her (my sisters and I were always acussed of being dieters as we were all natually slim)...
Who could sing better then her dance better then her.
I remember my sister putting together our dance moves for christmas only to have them all ripped off by this girl and have her put in charge of the dance group.

She would try separate couples her age because she was lonely…everything she did she was above the family laws as her parents were the leaders.
Every charity Project I would get involved in she would have to get involved in to and then I would get kicked out of them as I wasn't needed anymore then I'd be told off for not being willing or whatever.....It was like a kick in the teeth
Nothing I did in the family was ever enough…especially for this family!!!
My last year in the family I really tried to make a go of it…I threw myself into every project I could did everything by the book …went along to these stupid prison projects with them when they had nobody else to come along as sing…
Enough was enough… I had already wanted to leave the family since I was little and had decided at some friends insistence to give it one more go… but it was all bullshitt

My last meeting with the “leaders” was so degrading I was called over and yelled at and told that I had no right to be in their home as I had already left the family. (technically I had 3 months before but I was visiting a friend of mine and at the time I was still friendly with the family)
He yelled and said “you haven’t shown any humility nor called for any shepherding since you’ve left, “how dare you come into our home” (I had been invited) your a perversion and your never to come back into this house again.. .and I was made to leave in-front a whole groups of teens that had arrived for the teen camp…and was actually shown the door and had it slamed behind me.

So sorry if I offended any of in my previous post about the beauty thing… I was pissed of and I didn’t mean to be trivial about the “beauty” thing…. Beauty is certainly not what matters…
Being very ugly as a child and picked and teased until the age of 15 I know what it's like first hand to be Judged by your looks...
But I do stand by my accusation that this girls brothers raped one of my former flatmates.

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from neez
Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 15:55

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Well she was no model. She must've gotten it from her mother, she was pretty scary looking. Think Borowick, but much worse.
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from Hunk
Friday, March 10, 2006 - 20:26

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HOw ya doin? Just wanted to comment that I feel the things you went through and the people you were living with that treated you like that was inhumane.
I was shocked at some things when I was in, that's why I left.
People didn't seem to have a love and concern for others, just
selfishness and a desire to gratify themself. There were alot of head trips, I mean people were trying to attract others to themselves, like with performing. It seems as though everyone wanted to be a star. Maybe it was the Jeremy Spencer thing.
He was a star so people got this idea in TF that it was God's will or something for them to be a star. A real pride trip.
Just sorry you had to go through all that S____t.
Life in and out of TF can be really unpredictable, and you dont really know who to you can trust as your real friends
unless you see they are bending over backwards for you or breaking their back for you, then you can see they are real.
You know what I mean? You can also be a real friend to people too, but if it is only one way and they only use you
and put you down, it kind of discourages you from giving anymore.
Just make the best of your life and be a success because that is really the best kind of revenge you can have, is to show them what you are made of and that your success is somehting you worled for yourself, not something that TF can take credit for and say it was because of your upbringing in TF. That is where it gets to be a big load of crock!
TF braqs that the former member SGAs who have made it out in the world like River Phoenix, Rose McGowan, and others who have a successful career, are that way because of their upbringing in The Family and its doctrines, yet when Ricky
killed someone and committed suicide they say it had nothing to do with his upbringing.
TF is in a lot of hot water right now especially Maria and Peter, because of their lies and deceptions, abusing and abandoning their children, committing illegal acts regarding sex and minors, forging passports, avoiding taxes, kidnapping, ruining people's lives, wow. YOu talk about the dog eat dog society out in the world, and many do step on others to get what they want, but The Family is no different.
Berg stepped on a lot of people to get his desires and fulfill his sexual fantasies, MAria has stepped on many people to get power and money and influence over the Family Members, and Peter has talked his way to the top with his poker face smile and deceptive charisma, making you think that he likes you when he is conniving underneath and planning your destruction and figuring out how he can hold on to his power and position with his talk talk talk.
Just looking at the oictures of them on the xfamily.org makes you sick as it exposes what they really are , prostitutes and whoremongers who didnt even care for their kids to teach them right from wrong but abandoned them when they needed them the most.
Then you have the perfidious sex maniac Sam Perfilio, who loves little young girls and has made left his mark on many a woman in TF of age and minors, who is has confessed himself to have a weakness for sex with young girls, and MAria herself stamping her approval of this because he is such a valuable leader. Willing to throw TF's little girls into his den for him to devour with his uncontrollable sexual drive just to save his stinking leadership inability to lead what? WHen Peter and Maria are dead he is supposed to take over TF??????That is a very serious case of a lack of discernment. You might as well say goodbye to your young
daughter's virginity when he comes around. Dont let him in the door! This is the kind of scum bags the Family looks up to for spiritual leadership? NO wonder they are so messed up and crumbling with decay and as Jesus said are full of rotting ,stenching dead men's bones.
So, you can be very very thankful you dont have to put up with that load of crock any more.
Make the best of your life and go on to greater things.Make your life count as something you did yourself and have the guts to face the world and make a name for yourself.
Dont succumb to the Family's condemnation tactics or your family's condemnation attempts. Thats also the load of crap.
Become a powerhouse so you can speak your piece against them when the time comes, they will realize their failure , and see they lost something valuable in you. But then it will be too late, because you dont want anymore of their crap anyway. You can sure dig up a lot of dirt on a lot of TF members who are supposed to be so Christian. Then why is there so much dirt spilling around ? Concradulations on being out and now you can take the ball and run. Its your life! Make the best of it! DOnt look back!


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from htff
Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 16:07

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I know it sounds corny but the family do monitor this site constantly aswell as all the other sites and media ,they generally get the articles before we do because they send rebuttles before the paper hits the shelves,Just be careful not to give to much away, right now they will be figuring a way to bring you down by looking into your present and past so when you go to court they know who you will be attacking ,does sound unrealistic but i have seen it happen.
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From Hunk
Friday, March 10, 2006, 20:37

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Its me agin with my two cents for what its worth. TF doesnt know what they are doing. They will be reeling back and forth
with blow after blow of what the news media will be putting out. Don't fear them because they are a bunchof namby pambies
who have jelly for backbones, especially their so-called PR
spokespersons, who are some of the guiltiest of all.That is why they are afraid of a face to face debate with ex members.
They know that they will not be able to justify all tie crap that has gone on in TF. There are too many who know the truth.
They still try to minimize it by telling their people lies like there are only two ex member sites, when Scientology has hundreds. Just making that connection relating themselves to the Scientology movement proves they are just another cult like Scientology, comparing themselves to other cults. Trying to make their people feel superior to other groups and Christians."Oh Look Ho The Lord is Blessing us,only us! "
Just say what you need to say, you got lots of friends on this site who will back you up.
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From Wolf
Friday, March 10, 2006, 23:28

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Underestimating your adversary is one of the surest paths to defeat. (reply to this comment
from rubeingserved
Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 15:48

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The Australian family leaders + co= david millikan ,a female court appointed child rep and an old dotery social worker who's names we cannot mention because of a current custody battle (aus family v's ex sga) have been the absolute Family leaders in covering up or ignoring child abuse.Paul hardinbum is an abuser and has helped out every Australian abuser from the family facing charges . P Hardinbum and his tribe have alot to answer for.
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From Sydney
Tuesday, March 14, 2006, 07:22

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I like your "hardinbum" useage... I call then the "Hardingdons"

yup and their tribe have a lot to answer for!!(reply to this comment

from sailor
Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 15:20

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check out this link. I think this guy must have been hanging out at one of the Victor Camps. http://www.funmansion.com/html/fm-Make-A-Smile.html
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From Phoenixkidd
Friday, March 10, 2006, 07:03

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Sailor--That was phuckin funny, I should try that sometime. For years I was told to smile for the camera, smile on stage, be happy!--I hate it when people now say that to me, because naturally my face frowns, I wish I could pull out that contraption when someone does that

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from SeanSwede
Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 09:40

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Well, all I can say is that she sure has a long ways to go. How old did she say she was...19? Well, that pretty much says it all. I don`t really give 2 shits if she graduated from "the 12the grade" with "distinctions" oooh, hot shit. LOL!!!
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from placebo
Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 06:21

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While I agree with you that this article is a load of crock, comments like "that because she's very ugly and nobody wants to sleep with her" are rather petty and don't do your point any favors by attacking the individual rather than the issue.

Those are the sort of tactics the Cult resorts to and I'd like to think that we're better than that.

p.s. You'd be surprised how much sex ugly people are having around the world, bearing in mind of course that beauty is objective.
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From cheeks
Tuesday, March 21, 2006, 18:19

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Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder.(reply to this comment
From vixen
Thursday, March 09, 2006, 06:37

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Don't you mean that beauty is *subjective*, Dear? :-P

(Sorry, I am sure that you know this, and it was probably just a mistake. But I am still bitter against you for making me feel stupid that one time when you said that what I was saying sounded like something Bush would say. I'm afraid it's going to take a lot of public corrections to work the hurt and anger out of my system...)

For your benefit (actually, it's really for my own satisfaction), here are the definitions of both terms:

http://www.webster-dictionary.org/definition/objective

http://www.webster-dictionary.org/definition/Subjective

Have a great day! ;-)(reply to this comment

From placebo
Thursday, March 09, 2006, 06:41

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You know how much I hate Websters... of course I meant subjective all I can plead is that it was a momentary lapse of reason.What can I say? I just woke up and need coffee. Have a great day as well luv.(reply to this comment

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