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True or False?

from porceleindoll - Tuesday, November 05, 2002
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Is this statement true or false?
(leave your answer and your reasoning below)

God had nothing to do with the Family and shouldn't be associated with it.

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from weird Al Yankyoursyntax
Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 20:09

Your question is a syntaxical nightmare. But if it makes you happy, whatever!?
I will try to think on your level as we enter the metaphysical realms of cultic generalisations. Get your blunt chunks of charcoal ready in order to scribble your answers on the walls of our cave.
Ready? (Oh don't start drawing those deer and mammoths again, Gogamoth! Pay attention. Use language)
Okay, here we go!

My answer: Yes God had everything to do with the family and should be completely associated, wrapped, signed, sealed, and delivered in full as the reason fanaticism in the name of God---minus a balanced education and historical knowledge is the most dangerous of attractions and perversions.

Would you want your children to go off with a complete stranger who offered them candy?
Should you go/or your children with the next nice strange religious fanatic who in God's name offers you "the ultimate truth-trip"? How sweet is that?!!
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From porceleindoll
Tuesday, November 12, 2002, 20:40

Yes, the question is a nightmare, there is no end to answering it. It is easier for me to disassociate God with my every day life and view Him as a distant observer who occasionally throws in His 2cents.(reply to this comment
From GOD
Tuesday, November 12, 2002, 21:03

I think you're right porceleindoll.(reply to this comment
from there is no spoon - JP
Friday, November 08, 2002 - 17:28

We are giving god too much credit. There is not too much, in my opinion, that makes a lot of sense once you bring a god figure into the picture.
God, as in the bible, is a pretty mean dude, but you are basically buying into someone elses version of him. If you take everything that is attributed to god, you have to condemn him of pretty much every atrocity that ever happened.

Why would god intervene when some christian prays and asks him to "stop the rain" or "give me a good night's sleep" or some other silly intervention but then allow millions to be slaughtered in the worst possible way just because the majesty of "free choice" stays his hand from stopping it.

That leads me to the conclusion that god was invented to control masses at the dawn of civilization and nothing more. They gave him credit for all good things and no blame for the bad things, those were the evil disbelievers' fault.

Since we can now explain most things that were acredited to his power, we no longer need a god in our lives. In the end, every man/woman is responsible for their actions before themselves, societies moral standards and the law. If they CHOOSE to go against it, there should be no god to blame their actions on, just their own pitiful existance.
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From porceleindoll
Tuesday, November 12, 2002, 20:44

I am starting to agree that the concept of God was created to control the masses by those who were smarter and knew what they were doing. You could also say that the concept of Jesus was created to give one a scapegoat for their sins, so that blame can be removed from you and you are 'forgiven' because you have accepted Jesus as your Savior. Unfortunately many evil-doers use that forgiveness as an excuse to continue with evil deeds rather than doing their best to live a good life as an honorable person.(reply to this comment
from Anthony
Friday, November 08, 2002 - 15:19

This discussion is so very tempting, but I'll shut-up!

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From Jerseygirl
Friday, November 08, 2002, 18:04

Good, because I mean really, who gives a rats ass about what you have to say?(reply to this comment
From Anthony
Friday, November 08, 2002, 22:27

I love ya Jerz!(reply to this comment
from porceleindoll
Thursday, November 07, 2002 - 19:00

My opinion is, the statement is false:

If God is the all-powerful, Omnipotent, Omniscient and Omnipresent Being Who cares for and loves each of His children as dearly as the Bible and Christians and the Family claim, why would He have allowed so many abuses to be done within the group in His Name.

If any of you heard that some guy was running around being a jerk to others, and doing it in your name, wouldn't you definitely take measures to stop him (her) and make it clear to those involved that this was not your idea and this person was just a lunatic?

Why did God not interfere with the Family to prevent innocent children from being harmed 'in His Name'? Why doesn't He prevent His the supposed 'Word of God' from being twisted around by mortals to fit their situation and to be used against others? Why didn't He stop the group in its tracks when it became apparent that the leadership were using 'His Name' to deceive innocents?

Which is why I cannot agree that God had nothing to do with the Family. If He is all-powerful, He could have stepped in to prevent wrong things being done in His Name and with His apparent seeming blessing.

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From Canadian Agnostic
Friday, November 08, 2002, 15:34

If God exists then why didn't he intervene in a lot of other places and times, not just for us poor "Family" kids? Why didn't he stop the things that were done in his name during the inquisition or any of the times throughout history when horrible atrocities have been committed in the name of God?

a) God doesn't believe in interfering (popular Family belief)
b) there is no God - at least not in the traditional sense

Since I can't believe in a God who cares so little as to allow horrible things to happen to his followers, I have to go with option B.(reply to this comment
From porceleindoll
Tuesday, November 12, 2002, 20:37

Yes, why didn't He stop the inquisition, the crusades, the Catholic church and etc.? I don't know, it all ties into the whole idea of:

How much is God really involved in this life and how much does He care or does He really exist?

I am leaning toward option B as well.

Is God a racist? Are the westerners better people in God's eyes because they have good, clothing, education, civilized laws for the most part, vs. the 3rd world countries and lower where children live in gutters, are stolen off the streets and sold for body parts, sold into prostitution by their parents in order to make money for their family, living daily in poverty and squalor as we could never imagine?

And of what faith is God? Is He Muslim, Jewish or Christian? They all claim to follow the same God, yet their belief systems are so against the others.

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from Lance
Thursday, November 07, 2002 - 08:36

All I have to say is the Zerb traded in her bible for a dictaphone a long time ago.
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from dave
Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 23:08

The only god I know is:

a. A beautiful woman
b. The ocean
c. Ozzy
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from God
Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 13:10

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from thepersoniamnow
Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 09:05

God is dead ---niche
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From Arrgh!
Wednesday, November 06, 2002, 18:21

Nietzsche!!! Please, he's one of my favorite philosophers.(reply to this comment
From Hanna_Black
Wednesday, November 06, 2002, 09:25

BTW, it is Nietzsche, not Niche.
Oh, and Nietzsche is dead! --God!
(bad joke, I know. just HAD to write it though)
Ummm, as far as God being associated with the family: I think individual family members may believe in God, but as far as The Family as a group being in direct association with God...
Uh uh! Don't think so.

God said "love your neighbour."

The family loves it's poor little missionary neighbours sooo much that they let them tithe to Mama and Peter, funding some woman who is too lazy to go work for herself and take care of her own kids!

God said "love your neighbour".

That is why the family funds young people who have given twenty or more years of their life to the "cause", by giving them emotional and financial support. (...NOT)

God said "love your neighbour".

well, if WS really loved their neighbours, they wouldn't produce these retarded FTTs that make you puke!

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