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Bill O'Reilly is okay with me.

from geo - Thursday, January 26, 2006
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Bill O'Reilly is okay with me.

I was glad to see Bill O Reilly's constant coverage of Judge Cashmans sentencing of the child rapist in Vermont. I guess I'm somewhat ignorant of which issues, exactly, liberals and conservatives support. Some of them are easy to understand like, anti-war vs. anti-terrorist, evolution vs intelligent design, abortion and all that. I think I'm more liberal on most of the social issues and probably more conservative when it comes to government and economics and I can usually predict how it will play out in the media e.g. Janet Jacksons nipple pops out and the Conservative networks have seizures while watching the clip over and over in slow motion, or the liberal medias ones sided biased coverage of the conflict in Iraq.

But I never expected this would be a conservative-liberal issue and until now I was never really a fan of O'Reilly, he always seemed a little too arrogant and smarmy to me. But after seeing his and fox's coverage of this case, I'm very impressed, especially considering this case was only mentioned by most of the other networks and already forgotten about, but fox has been hammering on about it non-stop, and no one more so then O'Reilly. He seems to have taken this case very personally and is genuinely concerned about the little girl who was raped. Even if I never again agree with any of his broadcast, I'll still have a lot of respect for him because of how he covered this story.

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from Ian
Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 12:01


What exactly is your point. Besides being flamebait? Clearly not a topic worthy of discussion. Our opinions will not matter, his show goes on.

For the record.....He is OK with me too. But I hate his show. And I don't agree with him on many issues. I did catch his Jenna Jameson interview, cool stuff. But, he's a fat, horny, pig. If she had offered to blow him on the show, I'm certain he would have thrown his entire career to the wind and dropped his pants. I guess that would be calling bluff? I'm sure she's had worse, possibly a few worse (at the same time).

Jenna's OK with me also.

Lastly, the english language is something I speak well, but am still learning to write. At least properly. So a question for the grammer/spelling nazi's; wouldn't the sentence "Bill O'reilly is okay BY me." be a tad more proper. The original "with me" gives the impression that our O'reilly fan/brother-thru-circumstance had; after being in good graces, fallen out somewhat with Mr. O'reilly and actually was announcing the re-consummation of their "OK-ness".

In which case; I can sort of dig Jenna being somewhat aggressively not OK with me, assuming all the right props were available to accomodate her somewhat aggressive and Ian-wardly pointed release of that aggression. Yep, a much better thing to think about. Also, strictly for future trivia; I would allow the camera's on, and in return I would prefer to be the only dude in those cameras. Fair Trade? Lastly, I of course would need to have sole authority to edit, touch up, and substitute various scenes for the final cut. And, naturally, since I am (more or less) donating my time for the actual filming I should be allowed a small salary during the portion of time that any of the above agreed upon editing/touching up/substituting may take. Finally, in consideration of my complete ignorance in regards to video editing, substitute selection, many/most other things, etc. that it would be in everyones best interest if I had a budget for a small staff. In fairness we can probably all agree that a staff of more than 10 would be a waste of resources and somewhat excessive. In consideration, I will put a staff size ceiling fixed at 9 employees. (Plus 1 Accountant)

Oops, Jenna's cooling off, I might blow the timing (or a head gasket) gotta "bust a move" while she is still "somewhat aggressive". Make sure we forward a copy to Mr. O'reilly, we'll give the poor dude an inferiority complex. Than he'll be a fat, horny, disgusting, Rumsfeld licking pig, with a well earned inferiority complex and a well produced, somewhat pornographic, cinematic experience, the likes of which this world may not be prepared for. Wow.....Jenna's OK with me. I don't think I would even know what to do. What if I can't, um, pull it off. I think in Hollywood that might be refferred to as a "flop", I think?

Thanks for listening, anything but O'reilly, anything at all. (Except Falwell, even Savage has a few moments of tolerant clarity, but please Mr., just make the bad man go away. Please.)

Do I have to pay back the advances for the staff and substitute tryouts (stunt doubles for Jenna's many action scenes)? I think I'm at least entitled to keep my salary for the time I was poking around looking for top quality talent? Fair is fair, countless hours spent tirelessly pawing my way thru tryouts, interviews, then second tryouts with Jenna look-alikes, I deserve fair compensation. And, um, no I don't want to discuss "fair market value" for any of my hard, or in modest fairness - "nearly or somewhat hard" efforts.

Damn you people, I have no option to consult with council. I will see you all in court. Bring your checkbooks.

"another fine post by ian"
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from Samuel
Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 17:46


Bill O' Reilly rocks! I watch him whenever I get a chance! He's great, I liked him even way back when he was on Inside Edition.

The main thing I like about O' Reilly, by the way, is that he's very fair to both sides of the debate. I've seen him take the liberal approach before- not a problem! As long as it's a clear thought that stimulates debate rather than trying to end debate the way one wants.

I like Sean and Alan for the same reason. It's very nice to see both sides of a debate. Plus I think Peter and Maria would probably get slaughtered if they ever showed up on his show. Come to think of it, that would be great entertainment.

"You have left the 'no spin zone' " : o )
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From placebo
Saturday, April 15, 2006, 22:25

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I bet you like Ann Coulter and all, don't you?

The only good thing about idiots like Bill O' Reilly is that they give people like John Stewart and Coanan O' Brien never ending joke material.(reply to this comment

From Samuel
Monday, April 17, 2006, 17:23


I've never thought that much of Ann Coulter, but now that you mention it, I guess she's okay.

She seems a bit odd to me, though. Isn't she the one that said "Why not go to war for oil? We need oil." Oil is not a good reason to go to war, and of course profits from oil will not help the United States at all. Not when we have to spend double digit billions each year for defense and reconstruction- some of the damage Saddam Hussein had already done before we arrived. It seems quite odd that she would say that when the Conservative line is that the war in Iraq had little to do with oil. I guess she was trying to be funny.

Some people think she's hot, I guess. I prefer some of the other ladies on Fox News who will remain nameless.

Gotta go, Steve Emerson is on O' Reilly's show right now.

Samuel Mercuri(reply to this comment

from exister
Friday, January 27, 2006 - 07:17

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Bill O'Reilly is a genuflecting toady of the radical right. Did you see his interview with Rumsfeld? I kept waiting for the camera to pan over to O'Reilly's seat and find him out of his seat and on his knees fellating Rumsfeld.

For those who want an example of the insidous right wing slant that perfuses O'Reilly's rhetoric I present the following. During the Rumsfeld interview O'Reilly asked, "Tell us how the recent elections in Iraq have made America safer." Note that this is not logically equivalent to asking, "Have the elections in Iraq made America safer?" The first statements comes preloaded with the supposition that the elections in fact made us safer, and simply invites the orally pleasured Rumsfeld to unload his rhetoric to back up that supposition. The difference is subtle, but when compounded over hours and hours of airtime is very effective in making the gullible American public fall in line with the ideology of the right, all under the guise of "Fair and Balanced."

It is unfortunate that most Americans lack the basic verbal skills and rudimentary grasp of the game of predicate logic needed to deconstruct the sort of bile spewed by O'Reilly and others. I guess that partly answers the question on the front page of one on the London tabloids the day after the '04 election, "How Could 59,000,000 People Be So Dumb?"

If his demagoguic exploitation of some local trial gets you to swallow more if his rhetoric then I guess he is already half way to his goal. Good for him.
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From Samuel
Monday, April 17, 2006, 17:41


I doubt that the London tabloid you speak of actually existed. Newspapers, and tabloid magazines in general, have to rely on consumers buying their products. It would be unwise to print such an inflamattory headline. Think about it, any person in England who is American or has American friends would be offended by it. That certainly decreases their chances of buying the publication.

It would also be unrealistic to claim that 59,000,000 people, basically every American who voted for Bush, are dumb. One can assume that Bush, a Yale graduate, voted for himself. The tabloid would then have you believe that Bush, a Yale graduate, is dumb? That the thousands of people in Florida who voted for Bush are dumb? I doubt the state of Florida would be so succesful with that many dumb people in it. Who would be able to run it? Not Jeb Bush, one can safely assume he voted for his brother too.

Maybe I have not met that many British people, but I have never found my friends from Britain, or anyone from there for that matter, to be as irreverent as the writer of this headline would have to be. Are you sure you didn't find that headline in the Endtime News Digest?

Dude, seriously, you need to get your mind out of the gutter and stop referring to felatio on your public posts. Sometimes I just don't get you.

Samuel Mercuri(reply to this comment

From exister99
Wednesday, April 19, 2006, 10:44

Let's see, Bush is intelligent, Florida is "successful," and I conjured up a British tabloid that is viewable here

and at countless other sites.

Apparently, in addition to not getting out much, you can't even unglue yourself from Fox News Channel long enough to type out a google search. You're a bright boy, you are.(reply to this comment
From Samuel
Wednesday, April 19, 2006, 15:55


I can't help it if CNN sucks.

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From Haunted
Wednesday, April 19, 2006, 12:57

ROTFL!!! "Bush is intelligent, Florida is "successful,"" - probably the funniest thing I've heard all day!!!(reply to this comment
From Samuel
Wednesday, April 19, 2006, 15:22


You do realize that Florida has some of the lowest taxes in the country, right? Just ask Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake, Donald Trump, or any other big shot celebrity that has realized they will save big on their taxes by listing Florida, rather than California or New York, as their residence.

O.J. Simpson did the same thing, but probably for the homestead exemption we have here. He still saves on his taxes compared to California.(reply to this comment

From Haunted
Thursday, April 20, 2006, 12:52


You do realize that one of the deciding factors is community, don't you? Here in New Jersey there are also areas which have highly concentrated amounts of retired individuals where taxes are also very low in comparrison to other areas. Income also has a lot to do with this: in New York (NYC) and other large cities in California the average income is significantly higher thus the cost of living, including taxes mirror this.

Oh, and WHY IN THE HELL would I do ANYTHING just because Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake and OJ have done it????? I think my 8 yr old has a greater IQ than all 3 combined!(reply to this comment

From Samuel
Thursday, April 20, 2006, 19:41

That is quite possible- especially when it comes to Britney Spears.(reply to this comment
From exister99
Thursday, April 20, 2006, 05:32


I think we all need to ask ourselves, "What the fuck happened to poor Samuel?" I mean, how did his mind become so devoid of rudimentary critical thinking skills that he turned into a mindless sponge, ready to soak up whatever paranoid rhetoric he sees on cable TV. Is it all the Cult's fault for neglecting to educate him, or did some of us perhaps drop the ball by failing to clue him in to the basic realities of the human condition.

I find this latest discovery particularly heart wrenching. Led by the misguided maxims that all taxes are evil and celebrity, no matter how depraved, is the ultimate good, Samuel has moved to Florida, arranged his hair in a bad combover, been seen riding around with an unsecured infant in his lap, started delivering painfully off key renditions of Cry Me a River at Karaoke bars and began assaulting photographers on golf courses while chanting "The Juice is loose, beeyooootch." Where did poor dear Sammy get such fucked up role models and why did no one intervene by shutting off the television or at least switching the channel from the Fox New Channel?

How many more innocent, impressionable boobs like Sammy must be lost before we are compelled to act?(reply to this comment

From Samuel
Thursday, April 20, 2006, 20:06


Dude, waht are you thinking? When did I say that any of these people are role models, let alone my role models? If you've read most of my posts or comments on this site you would know that I was not educated in The Family, my parents sent me to public Elementary, Middle, and High school (unwillingly at first). The only schooling I can remember recieving in The Family is tracing oversized memory verses with cartoons above them, and my teachers said my handwriting was actually very good because of this.

I am aware of the basic realities of the human condition, I got a B in Human Anatomy last semester.

All taxes are not evil, but high taxes are. Celebrity is not the ultimate good, being happy with what you have is the ultimate good.

I have lived in Florida since I was 4 years old. Needless to say, I didn't have much choice in the matter. And even if I had hair, I would not arrange it in a bad combover.

Sorry, Exister 99, I do not have children and do not even drive. I haven't had an unsecured infant in my lap since I left The Family. And from what I've seen The Family is getting better about buying proper car seats for their children. I don't know why, maybe they're afraid the AC's are going to start cracking down.

The last time I sang Karaoke I did "God Must Have Spent A Little More Time On You" by NSync. This was at a Christmas party three years ago. I would not sing that again.

One more thing, I don't like golf courses.

Where did you get the idea that Fox News is all I watch? I also like to watch Food TV, the Travel Channel, CBS (particularly "The Amazing Race"), and Court TV. I'll even settle for MTV from time to time if there's nothing better on. Not that Kanye West is any good.

Perhaps you should be asking "How many innocent, impressionable boobs (no pun intended) in The Family must be lost before the authorities are compelled to act?"

Now that I've set the record straigbht, I'm going to watch Jay Leno and go to bed. Sweet dreams tonight : o )

(Sorry if I brought up any bad memories with that last quip)

Samuel Mercuri

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From Fiscal Conservative
Wednesday, April 19, 2006, 10:10


Surely you don't imagine for a minute that Bush Junior got into Yale on the competitive basis of his GPA and SAT scores? He's a legacy--Daddy Bush Senior and Granddaddy Prescott Bush have contributed mucho dinero to Yale over the years. That's why Bush got in. He was at best a mediocre student. The rest of the student body that gets into Yale on academic merit performs much better.

Bush Junior's academic performance at Harvard Business School is even less impressive than his undergraduate career. One of the Harvard faculty who had him as a student has commented publically on the President's academic aptitudes in economics and public finance. The faculty, Yoshi Tsurumi, is a Japanese immigrant who was perfectly happy to remain a resident alien until 2004, when he decided to apply for citizenship and vote.

If you think Bush is a true conservative on national economic issues, I've got some property in New Orleans that I could sell to you for a bargain. (reply to this comment

From Samuel
Friday, April 21, 2006, 18:18

But, if I remember right, he was a better student than John Kerry.(reply to this comment
From Just wondering....
Sunday, April 23, 2006, 00:05


From where are you drawing these memories? Where are you getting your info? Would you mind citing your sources?(reply to this comment

From Samuel
Sunday, April 23, 2006, 20:03


It was on WFLA, a radio station here in Florida.(reply to this comment

From Ne Oublie
Tuesday, April 18, 2006, 06:01


Aight, let's get things straight here:

The Daily Mirror is a very real - but National - tabloid.

It, along with the other British tabloids, has an heritage of sensational headlines and style of reporting.(reply to this comment

From Samuel
Tuesday, April 18, 2006, 15:51


I was talking about the specific episode that asked how could 59 million people be so dumb. I am aware that the Daily Mirror exists, but have never read it.

Samuel Mercuri(reply to this comment

Tuesday, April 18, 2006, 15:56

Have you at least looked in it?(reply to this comment
From vixen
Monday, April 17, 2006, 21:08


Not the best link, but it'll suffice. I'm not entirely convinced you're worth the effort it took to find it, but hey, I'm feeling generous.

And, btw, the UK press is highly irreverent when it comes to idiocy.(reply to this comment

From Samuel
Tuesday, April 18, 2006, 16:02


Oh my word! U.S. election disaster? What the heck could have happened, maybe the Conservatives here in America decided to vote for a change? After the Florida revote mess in 2000, how could anything that happened in 2004 possibly come anywhere close to a disaster? Is this for real?

Some articles you don't have to read to figure out they're just trash. I guess that's a good thing, because I'd porbably buy a lot more tabloids if it weren't for that. Is this the same tabloid that is finding so much anymosity between Camilla and Kate? You know the media is just making it up for sales, right?

I'm very glad that you found the cover for me, I just hope you didn't waste any of your time reading the article that followed. It's all hogwash. What do you expect from the tabloids?

"Star" here in the USA isn't much better, by the way, so I'm not dissing British people or their press. I'm assuming the author of this article is just a freak of nature and most Brits are reverent and polite as I have found my British friends to be.


Samuel Mercuri

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From placebo
Monday, April 17, 2006, 18:20


Your knowledge of European press is to this comment

From Samuel
Tuesday, April 18, 2006, 15:48

Truer words have never been spoken : o )(reply to this comment
From Ne Oublie
Thursday, February 02, 2006, 09:19

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... and how is that any different from being a "genuflecting toady of the radical left", like most of the world's media and entertainment industry?(reply to this comment
From exister
Thursday, February 02, 2006, 11:11

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It's like... I see hot air coming from you fat, capitalist mouth, but it doesn't coalesce into any sensible, coherent pattern that resembles human speech.(reply to this comment
From Ne Oublie
Thursday, February 02, 2006, 12:36

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The art of insults is to use such terms as are specific to the intented target. In your case, however, I can respond by substituting 'communist' for 'capitalist' and it's equally appropriate. (I'd also correct your typo and grammar while I was at it - perhaps that's what capitalism does for one.)(reply to this comment
From placebo
Friday, January 27, 2006, 08:07

"genuflecting toady" ... brilliant, however I do believe its spelled demagogic.(reply to this comment
from ErikMagnusLehnsher
Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 22:22


I don't really identify myself as a Liberal or a Conservative because, like yourself, in some areas I'm pretty liberal and in others I'm pretty conservative. I probably lean more Left, though. Example: I have no problem with gays having Civil Unions and some of the tax benefits of being married, etc. (generally a liberal position). If someone breaks into my house and threatens my family in any way I'm not going to reason with them or excuse their behavior as due to their poor upbringing and lack of education...I'm going to pull out my handgun and fuck them up. I am generally against gun control…a conservative position

I've also been following the Judge Cashman story on the Internet and on "The Factor".

About half the time I agree with Bill when he's talking about common sense stuff and the other half of the time I think he's sensationalizing stuff to pander to his audience, boost his ratings and promote conservative ideology.

Bill characterized the Cashman case as a Liberal vs. Conservative issue because I think he sees it as an opportunity to say that Liberals don't care about kids or are soft on crime, etc. and has a soft spot for this type of demagoguery...I think he also happens to be writing a book about a culture war so he can promote that, too.

I do give Bill credit for his coverage of the Jessica Lunsford tragedy and for promoting "Jessica's Law" and I generally salute him when he uses his program and fame to fight for better protections for kids, etc. or to expose some general stupidity like this.

The facts in the Cashman case as I understand them are:

Cashman is an ex-military, church-going, Republican-appointed, tough-on-crime Conservative. Sen. Vincent Illuzzi, a Republican who is also a prosecutor, said the criticism that Cashman is a lenient judge and should be thrown out of office is "contrary to his judicial philosophy and career." "Over the years, if there's been criticism of Judge Cashman, it has been he has been overly harsh on offenders when it comes to sentences and conditions of probation," Illuzzi said.

The parents of the poor child apparently inexplicably allowed the abuser, Hulett, a family friend to live with them for years and were aware that he sometimes slept with their daughter. Hulett has been characterized as either retarded or of extremely low intelligence and he didn't understand why people were upset with him for sleeping with the victim. If the guy is a 'tard it doesn't change the fact that he's a danger to kids but I think he would be treated differently from a psycho serial predator in terms of treatment and institutionalization. The victim has been removed from the parents by CPS and one can only hope that she is placed with some sane and competent parents.

I didn't learn this info about the case from O'Reilly but from additional research that I did.

My problem with Judge Cashman is that, as a parent, I think that whether a guy is retarded or whatever the circumstances are, you don't put him back out on the streets (even with the strictest probation program in the world) before he serves some SERIOUS time in the interest of protecting kids and sending a strong message to other would-be molestors. Maybe you want to make a public case for rehab over incarceration for someone who's retarded...but never at the expense of a child who was an unwilling pawn in all of this and the victim of abuse. He should have arranged with the Prosecution to give the abuser the 10 years that he eventually gave him with the agreement that he'd get treatment rather than ever give the guy 60 days. That's offensive to victim and to all parents.

My problem with O'Reilly is that he politicizes cases like this by not giving the full story and trying to turn it into a culture war in the same way that he'll quote an anecdote about some dumbass principal in Plano, Tx banning red and green cupcakes at Christmas and say that there's a vast Left-wing/secular conspiracy to destroy Christmas and Foxnews needs to save Christmas each year.

Bill O'Reilly presents himself as an even-handed "independent" when, in fact, he is clearly a very conservative Republican. I don’t have any problem with him being conservative. His show is popular and he doesn't mind mentioning each evening that his program is the top-rated Cable News program so his views obviously resonate. It's just disingenuous of him to present himself as fair and unbiased...because he's not.
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