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from Gypsy - Tuesday, January 03, 2006
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Does it really matter if you're an atheist and say "Merry Christmas"?

Some people say, "Well, I thought you didn’t believe in God?" I don’t. But, I suppose its something like Thanksgiving or something, I mean, when we celebrate TG I seriously doubt we are celebrating the whole history behind it. WHO CARES!!! What we celebrate now is spending time with family and friends, days off work, the food, turkey, beer... not to mention getting up next morning feeling like you’ve got stuffed turkey up your ass!

And about that stupid little lame song we were forced to sing at Christmas, I think the total opposite is true! Christmas IS about the presents, the tree, Santa, family and yes, those sweet sugar coated forbidden candies we never got for Christmas? What is Christmas without those things? Who the fuck gives a damn about what started Christmas in the first place? Christmas is what it has developed into now.

So... does it matter how u say it? "Merry X-mass" sounds kind of stupid to me, and "Happy Hanukkah" sounds even worse! But... how does it sound when someone who doesn’t believe in "Christ" says "Merry Christ-mass"???

Ps. HAPPY NEW YEARS TO YOU ALL!!!

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from T.P
Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 07:27

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Besides christmas and Jul really is really a pagan festival. Ha ha. The christians are so good at adopting and copying things from other religions to try to make their own and most things about them really come from the pagans. There really is nothing much original about christian traditions except for perhaps communion. Baptising is not originally christian at all its even in certian Japanese rituals like in Buddism etc.

Like I always say people should go back to the roots about a religion before they start believing and living them. That is why so many people are not so much to blame. Its a question of ignorance and in some cases straight out idiosy.

Like I also say "we are not born with a religious book in our back pocket. Therefore it is non-natural...or normal"
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From Hydra
Saturday, January 07, 2006, 13:03

Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5(Agree/Disagree?)
"Communion" comes from Judaism. On the Sabbath before the meal the father of the family blesses the chalah (the bread) which he takes first and then passes around, and then does the same for the wine. Both have symbolisms which are similar to those Christianity adopted. The first "communion" of Christianity was a playing out of the above with the new twist of "this is my body, this is my blood".(reply to this comment
From Gypsy
Friday, January 06, 2006, 14:50

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Ha! A pagan festival! I might have guessed! So what is the "root" of christmas anyway? I mean where does it come from, where did it originate... or more like why do we call it christmas in the first place?

Do u know of any place i could check it out more?(reply to this comment

From cheeks
Friday, January 06, 2006, 16:18

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Dan Brown explains a good bit in Angels and Demons you can buy it in soft cover for about $ 5.96 in Wal-mart. He also explains all about the pope and how he gets elected. The book itself is fiction but all the data behind it is not. Also for all you who willl read this and scream I discovered Dan Brown long before the Davinchi Code and no I have not read it.(reply to this comment

From Gypsy
Monday, January 09, 2006, 14:47

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I loved Dan Brown! I think hes a great writer! Ive only read The Davinci Code but i found it very interesting and the way he mixes fiction with historical data, i thought was awesome and always keeps the reader awake! Damn, there even making a movie out of his book! Guess ill have to read Angels and Demons too then.(reply to this comment
From Ne Oublie
Monday, January 09, 2006, 15:17

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I have to agree that it was interesting to find the occasional piece of accurate historical data mixed into the pages of plagiarised conspiracy theories.(reply to this comment
From Fish
Saturday, January 07, 2006, 05:22

Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5(Agree/Disagree?)
Dan Brown can suck it. He has succeeded in banalizing what were once somewhat profound topics. I hate the guys guts. Pretty much everything he put forward in the "Da Vinci Code" was either rehashed theories he stole from others ,or downright falsehoods. I HATE HIM!!! ARGG!!!! Yeah right Christmas is Osiris's birthday! ARGGGGGG! And the smug way he writes..... AHHHHH! (Pulls trigger)(reply to this comment
From Baxter
Monday, January 09, 2006, 17:56

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thou hast hit head of nail!(reply to this comment
From solemn
Friday, January 06, 2006, 16:15

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http://christianity.about.com/od/holidaytips/index.htm

http://www.witchvox.com/_x.html?c=holidays

http://www.sabbatarian.com/Paganism/PaganHolidays.html

http://www.new-life.net/faq807.htm

These sites all discuss the pagan roots of "Christian" celebrations. Be careful, the last one is a Christian site, Ewww. If they dont save as HTML just copy & paste to your browser. Have a nice day.(reply to this comment

From Gypsy
Monday, January 09, 2006, 14:36

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yee, txs! Sounds interesting. Ill look them up when i can.(reply to this comment
from T.P
Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 07:19

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The true and original word is Good Jule. Thats how we say it here in the north "God Jul".
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From Gypsy
Friday, January 06, 2006, 14:58

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The north? Where? Good Jul? Ive never heard that one before!

Forgive my ignorance, but i am trying to catch up on all the things i missed out on.. or more like was deprived of. Im always eager tho to learn the real reasons behind things, especially anything having to do with the falsehood of christianity, but i would appreciate your response.(reply to this comment

from ESJ
Tuesday, January 03, 2006 - 21:27

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I've noticed that apparently the 'politically correct' thing to say when one isn't sure what religious or non-religious persuasion a person is, is 'Happy Holiday'.

I really enjoyed this Christmas because I managed to get three out of my four kids and several other friends and family together and a great time was had by all. Then I went off on a little holiday and hung out at the beach playing with my 3 year old grandson. Beeeaaauuutiful!
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