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The Family- -MURDER INC.

from JudasChrist - Sunday, August 24, 2003
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I had a brief discussion with a weaker mind yesternoon (no offense young-man), and he insisted that TF members had (and currently), a balance that prevents them from going '2 far'.

We got on the subject of Jackies' statement. He highly disapproved and thought her 2 be a 4gerer and manufacturer of her story (s). I myself defended her in FULL and brought up facts about abuses MANY of U , my friends and I have suffered. We then touched lightly on the Subject of Ben and his "suicide". I Am convinced that hardcore members of this Chaos Deathcult (I credit the Band Zyklon with that saying), WILL and HAVE gone 2 GREAT lengths at silencing certain deceased.

Ben was a Rebel. Yeah, yeah He may have had mental issues like this boy continually brought 2 my attention, yet in a Western court of law, who would be credited with the initiation of his depression and final demise? They (I will refer 2 the TF members as They) would!

I DON'T watch CourtTv at all, not in 1 sitting. But when I do view it (and I'm sure many can relate), it is hard 2 neglect the fact that the court reporters, tv analysts, tv journalists etcetera are bringing up ALL the facts and circumstances. YES, Ben was a 'man' when he "fell" 2 his demise, yet the hurt and abuse, and pain began at an EARLY age. Shall we then dismiss this child's hurt as being that of a child? I think not.

That's how it started and that's how it ended.

I questioned a Hardcore couple not long ago if they'd jump 2 their demise if the Queef Maria (that BLEEEEEEDING Kult Whore) and Her Basement Gimp-Sidekick Peter asked them to. They were adamant in their response, which was of course "Yes". There is a very strong case of dementia in MOST of them (Members), especially those that have positions of "power".

If the gOD whom they serve tells them 2 "4sake houses and bretheren and......Family"... and Kills his "..Only Begotten Son.."... Would they not do the same for him if asked via "Prophecy"? I think so.

Take Ho and Aaron 4 example. (Think Cain and Abel).

Aaron-- A sexy, tripped-out, (slightly demented musician), who probably suffered from severe depression due 2 the hectic and incestuous lifestyle he was around, had EVERY reason 2 jump off that summit in Switzerland(?) (A few years ago, a source told me that it was in Germany were the body was found--Ho was there at this time. However, a trivial detail).

Hosea The Ho--Whom I met and who stayed at my parents place of residence a couple years ago,& whom I watched carefully with my keen eye, was a creep. (I had seen him 'Afore in a TS home, were there was of course freedom and the chicks ran about in "see all" attire and were nice and young. There was an issue there at this time...I shall describe at a later time).

My little brothers and sister walked in the livingroom 1 morning, only 2 find the depleting simpleton in the pink. Hosea was Always DD's (Demented David--Berg's), favorite. The Neutered-Sounding freak had a farm ("run sheep, run"!)and had EVERY reason 2 terminate his older brother and keep him from "polluting" other potential sheep.

There were rumors that Aaron was 2 join a group of free radicals in Europe with Jesus people roots, that may have been a great threat 2 the fairly new COG. DD commisioned Ho 2 terminate his brother so he could take Katrina 2 be 1 of his concubines. (Berg Pulled a "Uriah" on His OWN son). He always referred 2 himself as King David. As if he were the inheriter of the crown, once belonging 2 that ancient Jewish King. But if he wants 2 compare himslef with the king, he was a man of war; a man NOT worthy 2 build the Temple, who did it then? And who became the WISEST? Solomon! Father Of Kabaahlasism. Hail Solomon!

Ok, I know, I'm SOOO off the subject. Back 2 Murder Inc.

There is NO reason in the Kults teachings that preach against murder. Maybe I'm wrong; but I don't recall MURDER being a STRONG PART of the DON'TS in the 'Love' Charter. Then again, I burned my last copy, and have not read one since.

After all people, what did DD preach most adamantly? (Other than Fuck Ur mom, daughter, son (if in the right spirit), granddaughter, cousin, sister, daughter, daughters friend, daughter, daughter and countless, acid-tripping, incoherant hippe-chicks...And daughter, daughter)............The abolishment of the Old Law! Which I might remind U has A VERY strong commandment, that is "Thou Shalt Not Kill", this commandment above the others is MOST valid and LESS emphasised by this man, and we know why!!

The law of love is a law of lust and pride greed and Murder! I had a good friend of mine die a few years back. An Indian (from Dehli I believe), who had left and started a small ministry of his own in Pakistan, India, and the surrounding territories. This great man was @ his prime. About 30-Something, official, tall, well-spoken, appealed 2 the ladies and loved his ministry for the people of his native country (and other countries in need). He had come 2 Washington DC and gave a few motivational speeches on starting tiny movements and motivating Urself in ANY thing that U do.

Apparently He left TF and was NOT on bad terms, until he had declined basic demands from WS to hand over all control of his innocent ministry 2 them. As He had control over the Bigger homes in the area at 1 point and the "Kings and Supporters", remained loyal 2 him and his offshoot ministry..."Mysteriously". this honest man died. NO word was heard of him for 5 months.

Himself and a few of my friends chatted casually and came across the subject of death his last visit with us. He said he was happy doing what he did, and that if he ever died, however he did; he'd die happy; knowing that he was doing a good deed. NOT completely denying ALL family beliefs he stated his quams with his 4mer peers (the leaders), at the negelct of funding amongst others. He had heavy issues with The Queef and Gimp (Maria and Peter), and he stated LOUDLY that they should emerge from their caves and get off their "thrones" and spend more time with the workers and smaller leaders. He was Loud and out of control....He had made statements 2 "weaker" bretheren in those parts as well, resulting in a decent amount retiring 2 FM status. He was an 12year veteran in TF and somewhat new and was put in2 a status ver rapidly, due 2 his knowledge of 5 languages, his education and business status in the country; and may have been considered a "weaker' leader compared 2 others, but he saw the Hypocrisy in the "ranks", & was man of ideals, another (of many), fooled by FFer's (STILL ACTIVE 2 THIS DAY), and a peachy coating and a message of "we will change the world", and other "Pick-Up" lines.

TF Tends 2 be a Sugar-Coated Sour (I credit The band: The Dillinger Escape Plan, with that term). As well initiating and commanding many deaths TF has been and IS resposible for numerous cases of ITOM (Impoverished Theory Of Mind). Maybe not in the litteral sense of the theory.........The threat is still alive. The TRUE terrorist are at large.

It's Killing Time. 2 Punish Unfeeling Killers and abusers till they feel pain.

I Am a defender of all children and tormented creatures. If they could, James Penn would have been next, maybe in the old days Deb and Jethro, Ed Preib.

Another is Watchman, yeah; he had his bag of shit. But rather than explain his death in a normal fashion, void of criticism, they will harp on how bad he was and how he's "getting what he deserves in heaven"..."jesus is angry with him and he's in purgatory"...So jesus who became the christ will overlook a LIFETIME of great works and go over a few years of 'backsliding"? All the stories and explanations TF can give R as a bucket that is FULL of holes....

There R MANY other cases I could speak of. I'm actually working, I must leave.

They murdered MANY people and MANY more R on their way 2 meeting their demise in all probablity! Tis' an Urgency!

--Judas. RIP 2 all of U whose Human masses have gone 2 waste.

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from Spat
Friday, August 29, 2003 - 22:49

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Well to clarify to all, I'm the weaker mind in the story Judas tells. I’m sorry to break it down to you but I find you to be a sad delusional case. Your story and suppositions are so far fetched you should join Berg and start a cult. I mean it is this kind of thinking and attitude what made the family what it was, a self involved and conspiracy theory dwelling group so interested in the ideas it concocted that did not care its whole existence made cero sense. I mean the family could be accused of many things but murder is not one of them. I respect you as a person and consider you a friend but a reality check is in order
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from Jules
Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 14:44

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JC, honestly this is the sort of thing that makes people sceptical of the veracity of our stories. Do you have any evidence of these theories? Did you see any of this first hand? Speculation is one thing, but perhaps it should be clearly identified as such. I have seen suicides in the Family covered up, but no evidence whatsover of people being killed by Family members.
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From JudasChrist
Wednesday, August 27, 2003, 17:01


..................................................................................As Paranoid as it may sound. Perhaps they hired a killer(2 hard 2 believe?) At 1 point Berg had Bodyguards hired. Who knows 4 SURE what went on? (I know some do)!

Dear Jules, I do believe U missed the ENTIRE point! Here's an example: The Prisoner Did NOT stab and kill 6 prison guards...ONLY 1!! I mean, I tell these things as part suspition based on accounts and severe abuse. In Ben's case it is HIGHLY probable that he was coerced in2 2 his demise. When we talked earlier this year about the abuse cases in the DC area involving a father and his 2 daughters, did U see it happen at all? NO! Just accounts from Myself and others in that house. All that 2 say, we have NOT seen alot of the atrocities that occured, so does that silence us 2 the probability (based on some evidence), of the fact that they MAY have occured as described? Not 4 me.

I have NOT seen any murder 1st hand but HAVE seen diverse forms of torturous abuse.

I have said enough. Peace and Keep The Blame Flame Burning and The Eye Of Set Open!

--JudasChrist. (FTF)(reply to this comment

From Jules
Wednesday, August 27, 2003, 21:48

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Let me try to clarify this. I don't agree with second and third hand accounts and suspicions being repeated as facts. In the situation you are referring to, which I would ask that you not talk about here, as you know, I investigated privately and turned the information over to the authorities for them to sort out. It would be extremely irresponsible to make something public that I have no first hand knowledge of. We have the right to tell our own stories, not other people's and not unsubstanciated rumours. (reply to this comment

From neez
Wednesday, August 27, 2003, 18:13

Do you think you might have said enough?(reply to this comment
From DeMan
Wednesday, August 27, 2003, 18:10

Gezuz your one demented little fuck...(reply to this comment
from Mir
Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 18:51

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Gulp!!! Freaky! I don't know about the others but I do know that Watchman committed suicide. He told me many times that he would, and I wasn't surprised when I heard he had actually done it. He left a recorded tape with someone explaining his reasons, as well as books and books of journals.

I do agree with you that if Turd Burger or Zerby had/do say: "jump!" most of the CoG lemmings would say: "How high?! and jump to their deaths. I knew someone (an SGA) who thought that they were involved in espionage and that the people travelling back and forth from country to country were wittingly or unwittingly moving documents/information. Mind you, this guy was pretty traumatized from some of the horrors that happened to him so I don't know what to think.
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From JudasChrist
Tuesday, August 26, 2003, 20:51

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Glad I'm NOT the only soul 2 speak of such. Zerbe and Kelly think that we all live in dillusion, and that we're just a bitter group on Non-Threaghtening young freaks.

I'm here posting as a reminder to them and others that this be a reality and not statements 2 be taken lightly. I Am currently taking MAJOR steps in the process 2 get them exposed and brought before and American court.


"FTF" (Fuck The Family)!(reply to this comment

From Gar
Tuesday, August 26, 2003, 21:28

I just hope this is not another case of "groupthink" or wishfull thinking, But hey who am I to say, I wasn't there.(reply to this comment
from JudasChrist
Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 03:32

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From godess
Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 19:59

777. 777. 777. 777.777.777.777.777.777.777. He always wins in the end!!!(reply to this comment

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