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My Favorite Book

from Sara - Wednesday, October 17, 2001
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If you like a book that makes you think.....

Try reading Anne Rice's novel "Memnoch The Devil". Basically it is her take on the spirit world and religion. It really makes you think because all of it fits with stuff we've been taught... just backwards. The good guy is really the bad guy and visa versa.

I'm very agnostic so I'm interested to hear someone who still believes in God/the Bible whatever, read it and give their comments.

The theories in this book, to me, are no more outlandish than some of the shit that christians around the world believe and hold as sacred truths.

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from Estie
Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 22:39

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Two thumbs up! One my favorites of the Vampire chronicles. Just have to say that I agree with all you said about the book.
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from wanderndan
Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 17:20

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I read that book and thought it was great, and I don't lioke ann rice. too much taste, smell and flower discriptions.

and guys relax a bit. someone says " this book is cool" take it with agrain of salt, read the fucking book and then say yes or no. it seams that any time someone puts forward a opinion on this site that we all jump on them for grammer, spelling or theological opinions. chill out!

to the author; I'm also agnostic and after reading that book it just reinforced the point that you can put any spin that you want to on religion.


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from fsck
Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 13:40

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Uh...God is not an all loving being. God does not love everybody. The "Christianity" you were taught has no more truth than that of the church system it so tried to despise. Small wonder it collapsed when faced with any argument.

Your faith in science is misplaced, it is not exact, not everything can be empirically proved.

Anne Rice...vampires...why is everyone so damned impressionable?
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From Jules
Tuesday, October 30, 2001, 23:08

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Wow, what a honour to be in the presence of one who has understanding of the One True Way. It's so wonderful to know that it is possible to break free from the dogmatism and elitism of the cult and instead embrace the absolute certainty of True Faith.

(It's silly to have to spell this out, but of course no one believes in vampires--well except Gordon Melton perhaps. It's called metaphor.)(reply to this comment
From fsck
Saturday, November 03, 2001, 13:41

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I've said this before, I'm sure, but if you can't be certain about something then why bother believing it? I of course believe this to be distinct from the notion of doubt however. As Dostoevsky wrote (I paraphrase), faith is not belief without doubt, rather belief despite of doubt.

Metaphor, of course, how foolish of me! There I was sharpening stakes...
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From Jules
Sunday, November 04, 2001, 00:42

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If you doubt, but believe anyways, then how is that certainty? Seems more like hope to me. (reply to this comment
From fsck
Sunday, November 04, 2001, 12:00

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Seems like you can't cope with a fine distinction to me.(reply to this comment
From Cosmicblip
Thursday, October 25, 2001, 00:14

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oh fsck, you're so predictable. all it takes is for someone to mention an opinion & you come riding in screaming hellfire & damnation.
what was the last thing that GOD told you personally? not through his word or some teaching hidden somewhere. but out loud with witnesses? yeah, i didn't think so.
i was bored & drunk & just thought i'd type something.
i'm just curious, how can you be so sure of everything you believe? i mean it's great to believe the world is flat, but when there is "empirical" evidence to the contrary, isn't it an insult to "God" to not expand your thinking & use your brain, which "God" apparently created for us to use when learning?
IMHO...(reply to this comment
From fsck
Thursday, October 25, 2001, 17:37

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I'm not taking that bait, try harder. Is the cliched comparison of belief in a flat earth and religion the best you can do?

BTW, how do you know that the Earth isn't flat? Maybe THEY are lying to you. Maybe someone lied to THEM. Maybe it's just the Earth that wants you to think that it's round, in order to trick you into falling off the edge.(reply to this comment
From Cosmicblip
Friday, October 26, 2001, 02:26

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maybe the earth is flat. maybe we actually live on the inside of the sphere. do i really care? well, a little. must i make you believe the same as me? no, you can believe whatever makes you happy.(reply to this comment
From fsck
Saturday, October 27, 2001, 12:57

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That's a swift change of tune...(reply to this comment
From Sara
Wednesday, October 24, 2001, 14:45

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Hey fsck,
Apparently you have a thing with Anne Rice... this is the second time I've sen you make the exact same comment. And to be honest with you it takes a whole hell of a lot more than a story about a vampire to impress me!

Not everything can be empirically proven... yet!
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From fsck
Thursday, October 25, 2001, 17:30

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Yeah, she's a crap writer with a cult following of impressionable losers for whom the boundary of fact and fiction has become disturbingly blurred.

You people are just the types who used to freak Tolkien out after reading Lord of the Rings and camping out in his garden.(reply to this comment
From me
Friday, October 11, 2002, 07:01

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actually anne rice is a very intelligent writer, her books are not only about vampires but also have alot of history and philosiphy in it that is very interesting!! And her views and theories are always provoking!!(reply to this comment
From faeri
Friday, October 11, 2002, 11:09

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Anne Rice is my favorite writer by far...I don't think one book ever held my attention as long as "The Witching Hour" did, that was an amazing book.(reply to this comment
From Heather
Monday, July 28, 2003, 14:27

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She's my favorite author too!! I just got done reading "The Witching Hour" for the second time!(reply to this comment
From Jules
Tuesday, October 30, 2001, 23:38

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My friend, you have obviously never encountered obsession.

As someone who works with computer geeks, I have seen cult followings and obsession first hand. I know people who will leave work early (techies don't ever leave work early) only for the opening of a new Star Trek movie. So far I have only encountered one person who speaks Klingon, (don't ask--brilliant programmer, but you have to wonder). An animator once made me watch the entire star wars series in one go, and then quizzed me on it, and then brought me one new SW figurine a month which I had to keep on my desk--though I have to say the Princess Lea in the bikini and chains is pretty hot. And then there was the role-player (not as exciting as it sounds--role playing is a complicated game where people create personas and spend extended periods of time acting them out according to predetermined rules) who would spend every weekend engaging in this activity, would often come to work "in character" with costume to match (they seem to have a thing for the mediaeval period) and actually met his girlfriend, now his wife, at one of these sessions. All techies love "the Matrix" (me too) but I know a girl who actually changed her whole look (cut her hair, changed her style and took up martial arts) in order to look like the girl from the film.

Anyways, all that to say that you seem to be misinterpreting the fact that people like Anne Rice. I think she is cool because apart from being one of the most controversial writers in mainstream culture today, she is unabashedly eclectic--just as a writer should be.(reply to this comment
From Ian
Sunday, December 16, 2001, 23:15

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Obsession is common among techies, ever since I discovered internet porn I've been constantly jerking off, now its' like a 24/7 thing. Alot of different boss's I've had don't seem to really appreciate it that much either, I don't see what the big deal is, alot of office help use 3 or 4 80Gig HD's in there workstations. Besides it has helped me learn to appreciate people that I didn't even know existed. How many porn stars can you name from memory???

I've got mad skillz...

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From MrNiceGuy
Thursday, December 20, 2001, 19:52

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I know what you mean Ian,

It hasn't done me any career favours however...I've had about 4 promotions put on hold, which are directly linked to my porn obssessions.

But I've made some useful contacts.

I've found descretion is the better part of perversion...

Mrs.Santa visted our office today...Seriously. She was passing out sweets.
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From fsck
Saturday, November 03, 2001, 13:32

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Argh, don't tell me about geeks...as if I don't see enough of them all day every day (I'm a software engineering undergraduate).

I think you misunderstand what is mainstream and controversial. What was once fringe is now mainstream. You don't think everyone in the hippy generation joined the Family do you? ;-)(reply to this comment
From Jules
Sunday, November 04, 2001, 00:42

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Sort of like homosexuality?(reply to this comment
From fsck
Sunday, November 04, 2001, 11:59

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What do you think?(reply to this comment
From Sara
Thursday, October 25, 2001, 17:49

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You really are a very angry person, aren't you!! I'm just glad someone finally figured out what my problem is... my boundaries are blurred.

I funkin' love it... you make me laugh!!! (reply to this comment
From fsck
Saturday, October 27, 2001, 12:46

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Person? I'm just a post on a message board.(reply to this comment
from Jules
Friday, October 19, 2001 - 19:34

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Hi Sara,

This is one of my favourite books as well. The first time I read it, I stayed up all night finishing it. I had already begun to suspect that the God I had believed in all my life was perhaps not all loving and caring, and some of the philosophical arguments in this book really made me think.

Science has proven the big bang theory pretty well IMO, (which does not necessarily discount the existence of a God). What it does disprove is that there is a supreme being who cares deeply about the death and pain of his creatures. The brutality found in nature occured long before man appeared on the scene, and if there is a divine plan, death, sickness, pain and suffering would have to be part of it.
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From Sara
Monday, October 22, 2001, 10:26

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Jules, those are exactly my thoughts!!! I couldn't have put it any better. In fact I have to retract what I said about the theories in this book being 'outlandish', because they actually make more sense than most.
Your right about science not disproving the existence of god... but it sure makes it difficult for cynics, like myself, to believe in an invisible being when there is no need for one. Science is always exact,you don't need faith to believe in it. Plus I'd rather belive that there is no god, than that there is one who allows, and in fact created, death and destruction. (I'm sure that this comment will make someone want to preach to me about 'god's plan' etc..... just remember I grew up in the Family, I've heard it all!)(reply to this comment

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