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from silver - Tuesday, January 18, 2005
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Does anybody have any experience trying to use somthing called Education Direct or Thomson Learning. My little brother has just joined the ranks of us detractors and he is still convinced that the diplomas gained through this correspondance course can be used to access universities and the like. If anyone has any knowledge of this (perferably first-hand), please get back to me. Am primarily looking for feedback from Europe, as that's where we are, but am interested in any experiences. txs all.

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from ameliaus
Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 23:07

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I'm pretty sure that throughout the 'western' system, that most local, primary level (1st 2 years, or associates, in the U.S.) schools offer a variety of their curriculum online, and it is a hell of a lot cheaper than, say, University of Phoenix ($12,000 per semester), or other less well known distance sources. Remedial classes are included, so are a smattering of higher level, like some maths sciences and computer. Just call the local school to see who does it.

{University of Maryland has an incredibly complete and respected program for upper level, but not cheap, just distance; an entire college in their university - the military abroad uses it, as well as non US citizens.}

Actually you can get an entire associates (2 year) degree, and in most of these local schools it is very cheap (maybe $500/semester including books for 15 hours) and entirely credible/accredited. Often a straight transfer into a bachelors program. Typically you have to show up for tests though, or do proctored ones at your local school. I'm doing this this summer, so this info is fresh - plus I really looked around before choosing.
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From Temporary
Friday, June 03, 2005, 08:13

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Thanks, great info, if I ever decide to go to the states and PAY for my education, I'll check that out.(reply to this comment
From ameliaus
Friday, June 03, 2005, 08:37

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actually, here and elsewhere, financial aid is complete. The deal I spoke of above, with the Associates Degree, is completely covered by the Pell Grant, and you get back whatever they don't need. As in: $1,700 Pell/semester, you spend maybe $600 on tuition, boods and supplies, and the rest is yours. Its so people can afford to go to school or better their lives. They also have other programs depending on what you're going for. Most medical related ones have other incentives, for example.(reply to this comment
from Temporary
Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 12:51

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ya know what? I knew it was a stupid idea to even consider posting on here again. Ciao people, this is my last post. GET A LIFE!!!
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From Joe H
Tuesday, January 25, 2005, 12:56

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I guess you don't want your faith to be tried in our proverbial melting pot of doubt. Enjoy your paper money! (I sure do!)(reply to this comment
From Temporary
Friday, April 29, 2005, 03:50

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I-I'm sorry, what? u high or something?(reply to this comment
From xolox
Friday, June 03, 2005, 16:25

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Oh no, not joe! But I might be!(reply to this comment
from
Monday, January 24, 2005 - 12:14

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Probably best to go into a college or university in the country where you are planning to use the certificate and ask if is recognised or have it valuated. Colleges sometimes have a list that they use for assessing foreign certificates, etc.
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from exister
Monday, January 24, 2005 - 11:35

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You are hosed. Go back to the big square that says "START" and proceed from there.
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From Temporary
Thursday, June 02, 2005, 13:58

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And adding a small note to you all, but especially you, whoever I am replying to, the high school course that I took in THE FAMILY, was just accepted. HOORAH!!! I'm starting in august. SO THERE! HAH!! suckers!!!(reply to this comment
From Wolf
Sunday, June 05, 2005, 12:46

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I got accepted into community college without even being asked about my previous education. But Im glad youre excited about studying. Take a look at these posts in two years I bet youll have a laugh at your own stupidity.(reply to this comment

From yeah
Sunday, June 05, 2005, 15:57

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Community colleges have open admission policies. All you need is a GED or a high school diploma and you're in. In retrospect I wish I would have started at a CC and then transferred to a four year college instead of busting my #%$ to get a decent SAT score with absolutely NO background in math!! In any case, either way is cool but the CC route is a good way to go for people with a cult education :)(reply to this comment

From Wolf
Sunday, June 05, 2005, 19:35

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The CC I enrolled in didn't even ask to see my GED or high school diploma. But passing the GED is very easy, I wasted $40 on a book only to find I could have passed even if I was wasted, high, and hadn't slept for 4 nights...(reply to this comment
From Temporary
Monday, June 13, 2005, 01:13

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Yeah, I noticed that about the GED too, is that really accepted as a complete high school thingy? The one I had to take is EXCRUCIATINGLY harder.(reply to this comment

From
Monday, June 06, 2005, 11:04

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Damn, I wonder what state that was in?? In Texas, community colleges are required by state law that all applicants pass a test called the TASP (in addition to having a GED or HS diploma). Its not a hard test at all, but it shows that they do have some standards. A cool thing about CCs is that most coursework is transferable to four year schools. I dropped calculus II at my university b/c it seemed so hard and I was scared of getting a "C" so I enrolled in the saem class at the local CC and it was an easy A (and I still learned something).

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From Lance
Sunday, June 05, 2005, 16:21

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Yeah I agree, CC is definitely the way to go if you're fresh out of the cult.(reply to this comment
From care to elaborate?
Friday, June 03, 2005, 10:14

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Temporary, which college or university are you starting in August? If you don't want to be that specific, is it a top-tier school, mid-tier school, or community college? Also, did you have to pass any standardized tests? This information would add a lot to assertion that your CVC (or whatever it was) really helped you get in.(reply to this comment

From so what?
Friday, June 03, 2005, 06:11

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There are plenty of crap universities that are only interested in whether or not you can afford the fees, so getting accepted to a college or university really doesn't mean much.(reply to this comment

From Not university/college
Friday, June 03, 2005, 08:36

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You're right! In this case we're not even talking about a college or a university, but simply a Danish high school. (Neither high schools nor universities charge any fees in DK.)(reply to this comment
From Right
Friday, June 03, 2005, 10:38

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lol....I just googled "HF and Danish education" and it turns out that it's actually just 11th and 12th grade--Not College! If Temporary is 15 or 16 that would put in in with his peers. (reply to this comment
From Temporary
Monday, June 13, 2005, 01:16

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The thing that I'm going to is just a thing I need to take for a while because my Danish sucks.(reply to this comment
From neez
Monday, June 13, 2005, 03:39

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So it's a Danish language class?(reply to this comment
From conan
Thursday, June 02, 2005, 18:22

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Id like to congratulate you on your success at being accepted into a real school using Family work. That being said, youre a fucking idiot! All your posts have done to date is prove that youre a nave kid with no real world experience, and still deeply entrenched in cult dogma, thought patterns, and reaction expectations.

You were the one back on January 25th to say that you were not going to be posting on here again as we need to get a life! May I ask you why your pathetic excuse of a cultie is still parading on our site being a little jerk trying to rub your sentimental bullshit in our faces like we actually give a flying fuck that you got accepted to school because of TFs high school papers? Dude, you seriously need to grow up because youre going to be in for some tough shit if you dont wake the fuck up and see whats going on.

If youre so in love with TF and its doctrines etc, why did you leave? You seem to be better suited to a life where all your important decisions are made for you and where thinking is done by your superiors. (reply to this comment
From High school again?
Thursday, June 02, 2005, 15:08

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Congrats! Just a small thing, though. You write somewhere else that you have been accepted into "HF", which as far as I know is a Danish equivalent to high school. That means that your TF "high school" diplomas got you accepted into a real high school in Denmark?(reply to this comment
from Temporary
Monday, January 24, 2005 - 10:59

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Sylvia? What are you saying? Just because I'm not in the family doesn't mean I'm a detractor! I still wouldn't trade my Family years for anything in the world!!! I love you immensely but I am no detractor! k? LOVE YOU!!! Hi to Vesi

~Dick~

P.S. not a detractor, ya dig?
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From neez
Monday, January 24, 2005, 15:14

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"I still wouldn't trade my Family years for anything in the world!!!"

How about a proper education which might've actually helped you get into uni? As opposed to the cult's acme correspondence courses that will get you squat.(reply to this comment

From Temporary
Thursday, June 02, 2005, 13:59

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Uh huh, yeah, ok. Just got accepted, EAT THAT!!!(reply to this comment
From Knows Dick (Richard)
Monday, January 24, 2005, 15:36

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Dick is too young to have experienced much abuse in the Family. That doesn't excuse his nave view of The Family, though.(reply to this comment
From Temporary
Thursday, June 02, 2005, 14:01

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Naive nothing. and I say to you too, just got accepted. So go on, hurry and dig ur hole and stay there, bitch.(reply to this comment
From
Friday, June 03, 2005, 09:16

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Temporary,
Have a little respect for those that are older than you. The Family International would never have given its children an education, had it not been for the ex-member community that alerted the media to conditions in the cult. Your generation did not have to live through the horrors that we did. It was your older brothers and sisters that were abused and denied of an education. It was we who left with no education who struggled to survive and then fought against the injustices dealt to us in TF. And it was only because of the attention of the media and various governments that TF was forced to create the Charter. The same Charter that ensured your education.
I am glad that you have been accepted to college but do not come on this site and disrespect those who cleared the path to your current opportunities.(reply to this comment
From GoldenMic
Thursday, June 02, 2005, 17:18

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Big Fucking Deal! In my own slimy little cult, just like yours, the education was ridiculous and sub-standard. Frankly, as the "golden child" there, it was my move into home-study education that led to community-wide home schooling and destroyed any realistic possibility that most of my second-generation peers would have the skills necessary to be succsessful outside of the cult. Even so, I was a bright lad and managed to get a diploma from the American School, a just-acceptable high school correspondence diploma, purely the result of my above-average natural intelligence. Then, despite my piss-poor education and soley because of my natural intelligence, I managed to fake my way through college until I could gain enough skills (intellectual and social) and knowledge, and get a Master's Degree. Now, I am months away from recieving a doctorate. Meanwhile, almost all of my peers from the cult STILL can't write an intelligent-sounding paragraph, particularly those few peers who remain in the cult. They still demonstrate almost no critical-thinking skills, and their profoundly limited base of knowledge is an embaressment, ongoing evidence of the abuse and neglect perpetrated against them. As for your ability to get into college with a near-worthless diploma, many colleges will accept any old rag of a diploma, which means nothing, and does not change the essential truth that the average cult-educated person is severely hampered by their lack of basic skills and knowledge.(reply to this comment
From Zed
Friday, June 03, 2005, 09:14

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Although the guy you're talking to is a dimwit I still don't like you talking down to anyone on this site. You can talk like that on your own cult site. And you having any kind of degree means nothing to me, you're 40-fucking-8 years old. Now be a silent participant or fuck off.(reply to this comment
From GoldenMic
Saturday, June 04, 2005, 02:16

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Hey, I am not in your cult or anyone else's cult anymore, so I don't act as a "silent participant" for anyone. If you don't like it, continue to attack and insult me, but you are absolutely cracked if you think I will EVER be silent because somebody orders me around. As for my having a degree, I certainly did not bring it up to impress you or anyone, but to make it clear that one can go all the way through the educational process on a near-worthless high school diploma. Also, since most of the people on my own little website are as hostile and abusive to outsiders as you are, even those who are second-generation cult victims, I try to be understanding, but do you think there will ever be a day when you begin to understand that the freedom we have achieved by leaving our child-hell is not a justification for treating others as abusively as we were treated? Do you ever get tired of acting out in the exact same "we are exclusive", "we have a right to treat outsiders badly" as the very people who raised us? I honestly do not say this to be combative, but because I am repeatedly amazed and dismayed by the near-automatic hostility of cult victims, even among those they should be finding common cause with. I know I am forty-fucking-eight years old, having had the bad grace to be among the first adult children of a 60's cult that left the cult, but my parents did not ask me about joining any more than yours did, and I am strongly triggered every time I hear this elitest and cynical dismissiveness, so disgustingly reminiscent of the way my cult's elders treated me and my brothers and sisters, and the other innocent children in their control.(reply to this comment
From xolox
Monday, June 06, 2005, 09:37

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Right on dude!

I swear, it's like some people that frequent this site have substituted this "cult" for the last one.

To all you trigger happy pedantics out there: I'm not suggesting that this group of people is a cult, simply that some treat it like one. You want to kick someone out? Pick on the ex/members by choice of TFI. They deserve it more.(reply to this comment

From Zed
Saturday, June 04, 2005, 12:19

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Then why the hell do come to this website? You hardly have anything in common with us, you talk down to us, you're not part of our generation, and you're guilty of everything you accuse everyone else of doing. Not-so-kindly fuck off.(reply to this comment

From Banshee
Saturday, June 04, 2005, 20:22

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Are you serious? Goldenmic has almost EVERYTHING in common with us, does NOT talk down to us, and IS part of our generation! He was raised as a second-generation cult baby...that pretty much says it all. And what on earth are you saying he is guilty of? Are you getting him mixed up with a first-gen? I for one have felt privileged to hear from him, and to know that we are not alone in our struggles. I think that it is small-minded and immature to shut someone out just because they were not born of our particular cult. To be honest, sometimes I have been surprised as to the level of intolerance that my fellow exers have shown. I would think that, as people who were raised in an environment of ultimate intolerance, we would strive--if not defer--to the highest level of tolerance we can reach.

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From calm down Zed!
Saturday, June 04, 2005, 17:18

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Relax and give Goldenmic some slack! We have similar backgrounds and problems, and I personally have never felt that he has "talked down" to anyone on this site.(reply to this comment

From yeah right
Saturday, June 04, 2005, 14:02

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Thanks for speaking for all of "us"... we didn't get enough of that already!(reply to this comment
From yeah right
Saturday, June 04, 2005, 14:02

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Thanks for speaking for all of "us"... we didn't get enough of that already!(reply to this comment
From to zed
Friday, June 03, 2005, 22:13

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Grow up!(reply to this comment
From Zed
Saturday, June 04, 2005, 12:12

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????????? (reply to this comment
From zzzzz
Friday, June 03, 2005, 21:53

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what the hell???(reply to this comment
From Temporary
Monday, June 13, 2005, 01:35

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Whoa, look at all the rivalry I made! Suddenly I have this warm cuddly feeling inside. LOL just kidding. No, really, I am.(reply to this comment
from Big Sister
Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 14:35

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My friend who just completed her master's degree in Instructional Design, says that Open University is the way to go. http://www.open.ac.uk/
Good luck!
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From lifelonglearner
Friday, June 03, 2005, 10:28

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I would say so too, as i'm there now doing a MA, and its good.(reply to this comment

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