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Getting On : Health
Diet Vs. Regular. | from Nick - Thursday, July 08, 2004
accessed 8691 times Is Diet Coke less fattening than regular Coke?
Does anyone know anything about this? From looking at the nutritional facts Diet has no calories no sugar and no carbs which theoretically means you can drink 2 liters a day and not get fat. Is this true or does the sugar supplements also make you gain weight in their own special way.
I don't want to start a useless debate on the side affects of diet due to the aspartame and all the other chemicals as we all know they are bad for us. I just want to know if drinking diet coke really is harmless as far as gaining body fat. |
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Reader's comments on this article Add a new comment on this article |  from hope
Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 20:56
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Look - diet coke is chemicals and purified water with Co2 added. Coke is the same except it has fewer chemicals and alot of sugar. Your body must work very hard to rid itself of many foreign molecules which it cannot process.
In turn those molecules will rob your body of much needed fat, resulting in a dryness. Look at people who have prematurely aged very closely - you will see that they are very dry.
If you want to truly be fit and stay youthful for years to come, steer clear of any type of soda or soft drink.
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| from Forever Young
Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 19:45
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Diet Coke is evil and will blow you up and make you old and jaded.
Diet Pepsi is very healthy and is the drink of choice for fresh and wholesome icons like Michael Jackson, the Spice Girls and Britney Spears.
Did all those millions of advertising dollars teach you nothing at all???
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| from Dr.4_Shure
Monday, July 12, 2004 - 18:52
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Here's an interesting artical I looked up! http://www.weightlossvariety.com/dietcoke.htm
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| | | | | | |  From Joe H
Monday, July 12, 2004, 19:36
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Yes, I'm aware of that. However, as I suspected, aspartame, the sweetener used in Diet Pepsi (and Diet Coke, I assume, though I don't have a can in front of me), has no effect on the body's insulin production. To put it differently, it has a glycemic index of 0.
http://www.zoneperfect.com/site/content/QA_Detail.asp?id=401
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| | | | | | | | from banal_commentator
Monday, July 12, 2004 - 06:09
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This article is gay.
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| | | | | | | from Auty
Saturday, July 10, 2004 - 18:50
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The only artificial sweetener that contains any type of calories is aspartame. A gram of aspartame provides 4 calories, as does a gram of protein, but because so little is needed, calories are negligible. Aspartame is 200 times sweeter than sucrose. Saccharin, Acesulfame-K & Sucralose are all calorie free.
As far as just regular sugar (sucrose) each teaspoonful of any sweet can be assumed to supply about 20 calories and 4 grams of carbs. You may not think of candy or molasses in terms of teaspoons, but this helps to emphasize that all sugar--in spite of many peoples beliefs that some are different or "better." If you use ketchup liberally, remember that a teaspoon of ketchup equals a teaspoon of sugar. A 12-ounce can of sugar-sweetened cola contains about 8 or more teaspoons of sugar.
The benefits of diet cola containing artificial sweeteners is this: Our bodies can not metabolize these artificial chemicals and therefore they do not use them in any way to provide energy or to add to our body weight. They are in essence useless to us, except our taste buds. There has been no evidence of artificial sweeteners or sucrose causing diabetes, cancer, promoting or maintaining obesity, increasing the risk of heart disease, disrupting behavior in children and adults. Sucrose, however, is responsible for suppressing the appetite causing one to over eat at a later time, and is highly responsible for dental caries.
One last note on artificial sweeteners and sugar alcohols is because the body can not metabolize them, our normal flora in our guts can not break them down and therefore if used in large amounts will cause diarrhea
For more information search for “artificial sweeteners” at the U.S. Government health information site: http://www.healthfinder.gov
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| from frmrjoyish
Friday, July 09, 2004 - 17:39
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I've heard that aspartame causes an increase in insulin levels in the blood much the same as sugar does. If I'm not mistaken, insulin removes sugar from the blood by acting as a transporter of carbohydrates to the fat cells. I think it's possible that even if you don't get any macronutrients or calories from the diet coke itself whatever you eat along with it could be quickly turned into fat due to the increased insulin levels in the blood from the aspartame. I'm not 100% sure but its worth some thought.
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| From Auty
Saturday, July 10, 2004, 19:03
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The major cause of type II diabetes (and type I) has nothing to do with sugar. Type II diabetes is associated with insulin resistance. Type II runs in families, however, the main cause of this type of diabetes is obesity. The larger the fat cells become, the more insulin resistant the tissue becomes, and the more obese the person becomes. Fat cells also secrete a hormone called resistin which may perpetuate this cycle. Weight loss alone has been found to control type II diabetes.
Type I diabetes is less common, but occures when a person's immune system attacks the cells of the pancreas that synthesise the hormone insulin. Soon the pancreas can no longer produce insulin, and after each meal, blood glucose remains elevated, even though body tissues are starving for glucose. This is when the person must receive insulin from an external source, hench the name "insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus."
For more information go to: http://www.diabetes.org (reply to this comment) |
| | From frmrjoyish
Saturday, July 10, 2004, 20:01
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Umm..ok, I'm not sure what the diabetes 101 lecture is for as I don't recall that my comment dealt at all with diabetes. I was simply stating that since insulin is present in normal healthy individuals and triggers fat cells to store the energy provided by glucose in the form of fat, it stands to reason that if aspartame raises blood insulin levels in a manner similar to sugar, then more of the glucose present in the blood (whether from carbs, protien, or fat) would be able to be stored as fat than if that increase in insulin had not been triggered. I'm sure your information on diabetes is valid I'm just not sure what it has to do with my comment.(reply to this comment) |
| | | | | from Lab Rat
Friday, July 09, 2004 - 16:25
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I've heard that the fastest way to induce cancer in rats is to feed them nothing but hotdogs and Diet Coke.
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| From Professional Lab Rat
Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 02:39
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I think it is very unlikely that feeding rats "nothing but hotdogs and Diet Coke" is the "fastest way to induce cancer in rats." It seems more likely that this would be slow, inefficient and expensive. You may want to check out the Carcinogenic Potency Database [ http://potency.berkeley.edu/ ] to get some ideas about what would work faster. You may even be able to get faster results by ordering some specialized mice strains [e.g. from the the JAX(r) Mice Database - http://jaxmice.jax.org/jaxmicedb/html/model_30.shtml ]
By the way, in my last few years of school, I supplemented my financial aid package by volunteering as a professional "lab rat" for Phase I (and occasionally Phase IV) clinical trials of various drugs. For the most part it was a fun way to make some quick cash on weekends and during the summer. Except for kinetics days (think blood draws every 15 minutes for four hours plus other procedures), I certainly had quite a bit of fun getting paid $300/day to take massive doses of some new formulation of hydrocodone or something completely harmless like famotidine. Of course the final study I did, 30 days of MKC-422 (a non-nucleoside reverse transcriptase inhibitor) and Rifampin wasn't that much fun.
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| | | | | | | | | | | from exister
Friday, July 09, 2004 - 08:53
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Anyone who has ever worked in fast food has either heard or experienced the joke about the 300lb. whale that waddles up and orders a half pound burger with triple cheese, batter dipped onion rings, potatoe wedges and, Oh Yes, a Diet Coke.
Diet sodas are mostly just a gimmick, and any dentist will probably tell you that any soda wreaks havoc on your teeth. I once had the misfortune of washing out some provisioned 5 gallon buckets from the Coca Cola Company. They had originally contained Coke concentrate, and for this reason they featured the fun little Hazmat Corrosive label with the hand, the drop and missing burned out chunk of the hand. Yum!
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| | | | | | | | | | from Vicky
Friday, July 09, 2004 - 06:46
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You could theoretically drink that much diet coke and not gain, but I don't think it would do your body any favours to be consuming so much of the chemical sweeteners in these drinks. Also, you would need to drink a glass of water for each glass of coke as well, in order to counter the diuretic effects.
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| from porceleindoll
Friday, July 09, 2004 - 06:03
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Hmm, not really too sure about that. If it's labelled as diet coke, then shouldn't it be just that, for diet purposes? I was going to mention the fact that aspartame becomes lethal if heated to a certain degree, so keep your diet coke out of the heat, but you probably already know that.
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| From porceleindoll
Friday, July 09, 2004, 06:06
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Second thought on this, what exactly are the sugar supplements that are replacing the sugar? If aspartame, then you would want to research how aspartame affects (effects?) your body, and weight it up, is the sugar less of a danger, or the replacement? For years saccharine was the big sugar replacement, then it was labelled as carcinogenic, everyone freaked and went to nutra-sweet (aspartame), and now saccharine has been unproven as carcinogenic.
So, research into the sugar replacement, specifically, how it works with your body's cells. If the replacement is maple syrup or agave, or something natural, then you would probably be doing your body a big benefit, since they are very good for your body, but I doubt that coke is going to contain anything like that in it, considering the price of agave or maple syrup vs. something made in a factory.(reply to this comment) |
| | From Auty
Saturday, July 10, 2004, 19:10
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A teaspoon of honey (64 calories) does offer 0.1 milligram of iron, but it would take 180 teaspoons of honey--11,500 calories-- to provide 100 percent of the Daily Value of 18 milligrams of iron. Molasses contains 1 milligram of iron per tablespoon so, if used frequently, can contribute some of this important nutrient. Molasses is less sweet than the other sweeteners, however, so more molasses is needed to provide the same sweetness as sugar. Also, the iron comes from the iron machinery in which the molasses is made and is in the form of an iron salt that is not easily absorbed by the body. As with all sugars (except honey) molasses contains 20 calories and 4 grams of carbs per teaspoon.
My advice, have as much artificial sweetners as you like, and cook with wrought iron pans. (reply to this comment) |
| | | | | From porceleindoll
Sunday, July 11, 2004, 20:36
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I don't know if your head would understand any information on that level the next time you're hungover from drinking too much tequila. But agave sweetner comes from the same plant as tequila. If your brain can wrap around it, it's sort of like how you can get raisins and wine from grapes, same idea, different processes produce different results, or maybe you remember getting tofu, nato and soy sauce from the same soybean, or sake and gohan from the rice grain.(reply to this comment) |
| | | | | From porceleindoll
Monday, July 12, 2004, 16:23
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Actually, you were the sweetest YC I ever had, all of you in that group, my very most favoritiste group of kids, although I had great fun for awhile with the Jetts a few years later (you would have been in that group too).
And my sense of humor has developed a very sarcastic side to it as well. Just don't get hungover too often, you need your brains, or your brains need you, or something like that, or maybe we all need your brains, or your brains need all of us, hmmm?(reply to this comment) |
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | From night_raver
Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 11:54
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Prophecy from On-fire Shaolin monk (not a Veitnam-war-protester monk) on "using the 'Qui's" to "punch through in the spirit"
My precious ex-children, our loving Shihan has chosen you, his newest-of-the-new bride, to attain full enlightenment previously only reserved for Master Berg, who has gone on to instruct in my heavenly dojo; you must learn the secret of "using the keys" to "punch through in the spirit". As those of you fully yeilded to my spirit already know, "punching through in the spirit" is leadership's secret reference to din mak, or the death touch, and using the keys refers to using qui to hit someone without touching them -- I your loving Shihan told them to "use the keys", and they still haven't figured it out.
All that time TF leadership condemned the martial arts as evil was part of my plan, the severe punishments given to you my ex-children for dabbling in it was that you were not ready to receive this marvellous gift of Northern Tiger Claw -- it was reserved for leaders to inflict headaches and fevers so they could then berate you for your sins which brought that headache on.
But my FD children are complacent, so I will now give the power of din mak to my Vandari to inflict fevers and headaches on my FD children, and then they will understand that the reason Zerby is blind is because she slept in instead of going to the dojo and sent Uma Thurman, her toilet-cleaner, to fill in for her. And now Uma Thurman has become a Master of Northern Tiger Claw, & is causing Zerb's blindness.
If you, my vandari, do not "use the keys" against my FD children, you will allow the evil influence of Jeet Kun Do to cause Quentin Tarentino to make a second film, "Killin Karen", starring Uma Thurman -- this movie will be many times more gruesome than "Kill Bill" and will end with the on-screen death of your should've-been Shihan Karen Zerb. You must understand how important this is; if you fail then I will have noone to get prophecies from my son Hitler, and my middle-man Johnie Walker will be out of a job.
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