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from Anthony Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 16:26 (Agree/Disagree?) Vapid idealism, though opulent, is ostensibly admirable, but under close scrutiny, is desultory, somnambulant and more often than not, evanescent. Yet, how easily the masses are lead into “mania a potu” from drinking in the insipid rhetoric of those whose ideas frequently conflict with practical considerations. Regards, Anthony (reply to this comment)

From geo Saturday, January 25, 2003, 21:26 (Agree/Disagree?) geo hates dorks(reply to this comment)

From Anthony Saturday, January 25, 2003, 21:38 (Agree/Disagree?) Piss bullocks you boorish wanker!(reply to this comment)

from pharmaboy.. Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 09:27 (Agree/Disagree?) This song from Tool sums it up nicely... Ænema Some say the end is near. Some say we'll see armageddon soon. I certainly hope we will. I sure could use a vacation from this Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of Freaks Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA The only way to fix it is to flush it all away. Any fucking time. Any fucking day. Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay. Fret for your figure and Fret for your latte and Fret for your hairpiece and Fret for your lawsuit and Fret for your prozac and Fret for your pilot and Fret for your contract and Fret for your car. It's a Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of Freaks Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA The only way to fix it is to flush it all away. Any fucking time. Any fucking day. Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay. Some say a comet will fall from the sky. Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves. Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still. Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits. Some say the end is near. Some say we'll see armageddon soon. I certainly hope we will cuz I sure could use a vacation from this Silly shit, stupid shit... One great big festering neon distraction, I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied. Learn to swim. Mom's gonna fix it all soon. Mom's comin' round to put it back the way it ought to be. Learn to swim. Fuck L Ron Hubbard and Fuck all his clones. Fuck all those gun-toting Hip gangster wannabes. Learn to swim. Fuck retro anything. Fuck your tattoos. Fuck all you junkies and Fuck your short memory. Learn to swim. Fuck smiley glad-hands With hidden agendas. Fuck these dysfunctional, Insecure actresses. Learn to swim. Cuz I'm praying for rain And I'm praying for tidal waves I wanna see the ground give way. I wanna watch it all go down. Mom please flush it all away. I wanna watch it go right in and down. I wanna watch it go right in. Watch you flush it all away. Time to bring it down again. Don't just call me pessimist. Try and read between the lines. I can't imagine why you wouldn't Welcome any change, my friend. I wanna see it all come down. suck it down. flush it down. (reply to this comment)

From geo Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 22:56 (Agree/Disagree?) my thoughts exactly. *tool rules*(reply to this comment)

from geo Monday, January 20, 2003 - 22:25 (Agree/Disagree?) peace is very overated, its very easy for people to side with peace, many cowardly people do. any objective view of history has to show you that peace is never constant, nothing is-- and now days war is such a political and economic entity it has nothing to do with a fight for peace or some utopia but everything to do with national pride, greed, political/economic agenda etc. last time i checked humans werent on the endangered species list and suffering is never going to end when war does, death pain and tradgedy will always be apart of life, and pretending you will change that by making it exclusive to war is just delusional. the military is created for war, not getting the chance to deploy to a hot area is very dissapointing to most people in the military, allot of soldiers signed up because thats what they actually wanted to be, to be a soldier. not everyone is born a pacifist, many people at the units and schools ive been in just want the chance to fight, they would be ready to kill whoever theyre told to and enjoy it, this is part of our nature and i dont think it is any more bad or good then any other human trait, just different. you have every right to your opinions and its probably a good thing that not everybody is as pessimistic and "war hungry" as myself, i just get pissed off when people start talking about peace and other free loving utopian ideas whenever theres a conflict, it seems just a little too convenient to me, like an automatic assumption that theyre right because theyre "siding with peace" while there is usually allot more at issue, many other aspects to conflict that theyre blinding themselves too. (reply to this comment)

From Nique Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 16:44 (Agree/Disagree?) Geo, I get where you're coming from. I can't say I'm "war hungry" but definitely ready to go if need be, and eager to deploy and serve with other forces once I get to my next assignment. It does annoy me as well that, whenever there is a conflict, there are so many ready to cling to "peace". I wonder how many who joined the military simply for the educational and other benefits are going to be copping the "peace not war aka conscientious objector" argument because they hadn't bargained on being called to serve. Good luck, geo, wherever you are. E-mail me sometime.(reply to this comment)

From pharmaboy.. Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 09:40 (Agree/Disagree?) Another deluded idiot.. You need help. Are you some soldier wannabe? I sure hope you end up in a real war sometime, you'll lose the military romantiscm(sp?) fast!(reply to this comment)

From geo Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 23:12 (Agree/Disagree?) i was a soldier wannabe at one time, after being in awhile and doing most of the hooah soldier stuff and realising how much it sucks, most of the time im a soldier not wannabe.(reply to this comment)

From Wolf Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 04:36 (Agree/Disagree?) These people you speak of sound like potential serial killers who manage to restrain themselves at home and want to kill some third world farmer instead. I think this is a mental disease and definitely not an "acceptable" human trait. War is undoubtely necessary at times but should be used as the last alternative. As for this war, Bush wants to waste a bunch of human life on a silly craving to finish his Dad's "unfinished business". He's a stupid little kid in an adults' body, and he's going to get us into a lot of trouble. (reply to this comment)

from Big Sister Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 02:05 (Agree/Disagree?) Listening to the news today I discovered there is a web site called MoveOn.org. Hey, they're our neighbors!! For what it's worth, some people looking for them, find their way here. They are currently running TV commercials (on an anit war theme I believe, but not sure) making them very visible. So I suspect that is the source of the article above. (reply to this comment)

from Tankard Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 19:01 (Agree/Disagree?) Tankard says: I haven't even read your post, and I don't intend to. But why don't you just fuck off anyway and kill yourself? (reply to this comment)

from Nique Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 18:14 (Agree/Disagree?) Sending out chain mail isn't really going to help anyone. Whether he believes in and supports the current engagement or not, your son voluntarily signed up, just like all of us active duty members did, and he is now being called upon to serve as all of us surely will be. Sending out unsolicited e-mail will only annoy people and make you more depressed. Since he is having to go over there, the most important thing you can do is to put on a positive front. He is going to be having a hard enough time without you adding to it. If you want to help him and encourage him, get a mailing address as soon as possible and send him as much mail and as many packages as you can. Inundate him and his buddies with encouraging and detailed letters and food and magazines. Get together with your friends and adopt his whole platoon. Make that your mission instead of sending out chain mail. That is how you can best support him. I hope your son will be safe. (reply to this comment)

From Pure Hatred Wednesday, January 22, 2003, 19:28 (Agree/Disagree?) I agree. Send us food, books, and other time killers. I'm shipping out in about a week and the last thing I want to hear is that our families don't support us. And yes, I joined the Army, Infantry, with the intention of getting some action. And now that the situation has presented itself I want to finally do what I've been training for over the last 2 years.(reply to this comment)

From Good Luck Wednesday, January 22, 2003, 20:22 (Agree/Disagree?) While your pointing your weapon & firing off some guy's head or pelting shrapnel into his vital's don't bother to think he probably has less choice than you whether he's fighting. Just think to yourself "he's just another rag-head mussie rebel". Thinking otherwise will most likely mean curtains.(reply to this comment)

From Pure Hatred Wednesday, January 22, 2003, 19:24 (Agree/Disagree?) (reply to this comment)

from pharmaboy.. Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 05:07 (Agree/Disagree?) What a load of rot! World peace my ass, man is by nature greedy, cruel and self-preservation is its main concern. Any idealism that bases its hopes in some miracolus change of human nature is full of shit(i.e. communism's new man). If the US wasn't the big bully some other evil corporate-ruled nation would take it's place. There is no quick fix for mankind, or just-add-water utopia. As a writer once said, "We'll have to trash this planet before god will give us another one to destroy". I hope that it all goes to hell so we can start again & laugh at our stupidity. Who will give a shit about your credit rating if all you need is a good club or a large kitchen knife to overpower your neighbour! (reply to this comment)

From DAnz Thursday, January 16, 2003, 09:17 (Agree/Disagree?) Yeha its not like it`ll do anything. Maybe ur son shouldnt have joined the army to be trained to kill in the first place... (reply to this comment)

from xhrisl Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 03:09 (Agree/Disagree?) Peace, love and sex didn't work for TF. What makes you think a chain letter will work to stop the growing tensions in the middle east? Please have enough respect to take your post-hippie fantasies on how the world works and keep them to yourself. John Lennon is dead, Communisim was a dismal failure, and like it or not the geo-political climate in today's world is hostile. Sticking our collective heads under the sand will not change anything, and while I do not believe that war is the prefered alternative---one does not back down from a bully. Like it or not, America has the dubious distinction of being the only remaining super power. Yes, we have fucked the rest of the world, but, unlike the Communist, and the Maoist, we at least used lube. (reply to this comment)

from George Costanza Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 02:10 (Agree/Disagree?) We're more of a forum than a mailing list, so I don't think this counts as Day one. Step-skipper! (reply to this comment)

from Cultinvator Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 23:51 (Agree/Disagree?) Chain letters don't really help bring peace in my opinion, they just bug the hell out of people. Makes them want to start a war just to stop the unsolicited junkmail. I'd suggest: write creatively, research specific issues that you find should be addressed: find practical solutions. It's a dog eat dog society, a whole bunch of hippy frieks singing in the woods and fucking with bad breath won't help camp pendleton send less troops to Irak. I mean, do you see where I'm going? The smallest thing each can do is at least get informed on the real issues at hand and begin serious discussion with those who move and shake, not reclusive lalaland tree hugging silly talk. (reply to this comment)

From Pure Hatred Wednesday, January 22, 2003, 19:32 (Agree/Disagree?) Dude, you were stupid when I lived with you. I understand that you go to college now in an attempt to get an "edumacation" but that doesn't make you less stupid. For your own good spend less time on this site and more time on your books.(reply to this comment)