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PRAYER REQUEST

from Anthony - Tuesday, May 20, 2003
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Doesn’t it feel good to be free of this mentality, which is expressed in the following prayer request?  Sure, some things out here in the “system” really do suck, but it sure beats living in a mind-numbing cult. 
NOTE: I didn’t bother to correct the grammatical errors. Again, this is from the Family Youth Group.

 Dear Family,
 recently, the Lord used a newcomer to the Family to point out to me
 that maybe I should ask for prayer for my situation. I asked the Lord
 about it & He said, not only should I ask for prayer, but I should also
 explain (or "confess") a bit how I got myself into that situation, as a
 warning to those of you (especially younger ones) who might be tempted
 to do what I did.
 The gist of the message I have for those is in the attachment, I just
 wanted to say a few words about the actual circumstance I'm asking for
 prayer about. About 10 years ago, my former mate & I had decided to
 leave what was the DO Family back then & became TS (later FM), with the
 intention of trying to get our act together as a couple, or family. We
 had other motivations, too, as we were a bit disappointed by
 experiences with people we had been living with, and I wanted to play
 music more instead of the much less glorious & much more humiliating
 other forms of outreach. (I think this might sound familiar to some...)
 Well, long story short: We wound up separated & in debt, my wife out of
 the Family, with most of the kids, and me singing "If I only had" &
 unable to return to CM status because of the debt.
 The good part about it is that I've learned a lot of "most precious
 lessons from deep, dark experiences" & am bringing along a new
 disciple, but in order to really serve the Lord in the highest possible
 capacity, we would like to ask you for prayer for our debt situation,
 and that the Lord might do a miracle to free me from all other legal
 responsibilities in order for us to become CM.
 Thanks so much. If you're interested in any more details, read the
 attachment &/or feel free to contact us, but as this is going out to a
 lot of people, we want to keep the gist of this short. We love you &
 are proud of being a member of this Family, today more than ever.
 Lots of love in our wonderful Lover, and our King & Queen, David
 Blossom, Sparkle & Lara (WG 796)


 
 P.S.: Here are excerpts of things we got from the Lord on this:
 " I'm using this, your financial situation to come forth before the
 Family and send this humbling message out & humbly present your prayer
 request. This will be the ultimate usefulness for Me of the lesson in
 the way & path you have chosen, to demonstrate to all My children that
 this apparently glorious & exalting road only leads to greater
 humiliation. Let them know they have it better if they stick & not go
 snooping around in the System. Let them know that no matter how boring
 life in the Family can sometimes seem, no matter how tempting &
 enticing the System may look at times, they're still a heaven of a lot
 better off if they stay close to Me & don't move from My side. Show
 them the wounds from the wolves' teeth in your flanks & tell them the
 tale of their scary howls & assaults! Not that they would ever admit
 that they're scared, but at least it will confirm to them that the
 still small voice of caution in them that has prevented them from
 leaving so far, was My voice of Truth, after all.
 ...You have just come out of Egypt, and have had a close look at the
 decadence, the rottenness within, which is hidden from view behind the
 shiny facade. Tell them what's there, that if you live in the System,
 you wind up in debt, that's just the way it goes, unless you resist the
 Devil's temptation to live on borrowed money & time... Tell them. Tell
 them that you were told, and you didn't believe it, but now you found
 out first hand.
 Tell them that it's true, that the System WILL enslave them, if they
 can only get a chance. It may look nice, but don't be deceived! It only
 looks nice on the surface & is all rotten with poison within. Their
 rulers are wicked. Sure, it has it's enticing, seeming advantages, like
 greater independence & so-called freedom. Well, you will have to pay
 for that freedom by slaving away at some job for a good amount of the week..."


END


Here's the attachment he mentions:


Your Freedom Is At Stake (From A Sheep Who’s Shedding His Wolf’s Clothing) by Dave Blossom


I would like to write a little note about myself & my situation (sorry that – as usual – it has turned out not-so-little), as through my communications via email on various yahoogroups, etc., some people may have started to wonder, “Who’s that dweeb, anywayz?” Rumors are quick to spread, and since I sometimes don’t shy back from using what people call ‘no uncertain terms’ to state my case, I just want to give you a little background to that ‘case’, just in case any of you might have felt like, “Who does the dude think he is to preach at us, anyway? – He’s not even CM!”


I promise, after this communication I’ll be a lot quieter, laid back & silent, but the Lord is putting it on my heart to issue this warning. (I can hear some of you: “Hope he’ll keep that promise!”)


To give you a little background: I joined the Family in 1980 at the age of 17, went to Latin America pretty soon after that, returned to Europe to work in the beginnings of the former East Bloc work in the mid 80s with my Uruguayan wife, with whom I’ve had 5 children, and wound up in East Germany in 1990. During that time, our whole area had been put on Babes’ status by a leader who is not in the Family anymore. The team we were working with* seemed more interested in finances than souls, and I had a burning desire to use more the musical talent the Lord blessed me with, which I scarcely had a chance to in the situation I was in. So, we decided to become TSers & settled for a life which included System school for our kids, along with all the gimmicks peer pressure in the System brings: Gameboys, Nintendo, Barbies, & lots of System music. For us grown-ups it meant, buying furniture, decent cars, bills, debts. (*most of which have left the F.)


When the New Wine started coming out, I slowly started coming back to life again, while my wife chose to remain in the materialistic state our lives had gotten into. When we separated, she did not continue tithing & pretty much insisted on keeping the children in the ways of the world.


During the first year of our separation, she failed to pay her rent, which wound up a handsome debt I’m now liable for. This debt prevents me from becoming CM with my new mate Sparkle who I won to the Lord & the Family & our daughter Lara. What I want to tell young Family people is: Don’t make the same mistakes I did!


I’m like a fighter, who for lack of wisdom & carefulness has fallen into one of the Enemy’s traps, & so I’m bound here to this trap, stuck in my debts, & I’m desperately crying out to you, “Watch out for this trap! – Don’t make the same mistakes I did! Cling to the Word for dear life! Don’t eyeball or play footsie with the System! Your FREEDOM is at stake!”


I’m not claiming to be, do, or know anything more than any of you out there. I’m in the minor league, while most of you are playing in the Major. And yet, because of my particular situation, which has “blessed” me with a greater desperation than some, I can see things from an angle, which some of you might consider “the other side of the fence”, & I’m here to tell you right now: The grass really only looks greener! But it tastes a lot more bitter. In fact, I think they’re manipulating it with chemicals to make it look greener, but it tastes like sh...rimps. – You know, unclean....seafood...& stuff.


You don’t have to believe me. But that’s all I wanted to say.


One of the tricks the Enemy pulls on a lot of us is instilling a respect & certain awe for Systemites, making us think that they are incredibly smart, intelligent, intellectual, blah blah blah...


Well, I’ve lived among them for the past 12 years, played my heart out for them during an average of 120 gigs per year, in pubs, culture clubs, churches, etc., in 3 neighboring countries, and my awe for them has shrunk to a state short of disdain. The word “intellectuals” by now is ALWAYS accompanied by “pseudo”, and even those are a small minority of maximally 3%. There are 2% in these countries you might consider sheepy, and the rest of the 95%...no offense, but I’ve wrapped it up in songs of mine entitled “Another Night In Zombie Town” or “Total Stupor”. 


“The entrance of Thy Word giveth light, it giveth understanding unto the simple.” Never underestimate that understanding that comes from the Word. It beats everything they’ve got by lengths!


I’m one formerly stray sheep who has carried away many scars & wounds from ravenous attacks of the wolves, whose life was miraculously spared by the Shepherd’s merciful intervention.


What’s worse, because the Wolf, the Enemy, had tricked me & my former mate into thinking that “public education’s really not all that bad”, all my little lambs are currently being indoctrinated by the stooges of Moloch - & there’s only so much I can do to try to spare them from the worst – the burning by fire of a potential life of usefulness for the Lord. Would I choose a different path if I could turn back time? You bet I would!


Like many others I imagine to have done what some of you may be tempted to do right now: I once set out with the noble  intentions of, “I’m gonna show them what I’m made of & they’re gonna hear about it!” I was having big plans to use my musical talents to make it ‘big’ & maybe be instrumental in helping the Family become the promised ‘financial power’...


Well, the Lord has cared for us, but ‘survival’ is the name of the game out here & ‘merely existing’ a more appropriate description than ‘living life to the full’, which I had intended.


Instead of returning victoriously, I’m shivering & shaking, still paying the consequences of my deviancies & my drifting off, enriched only in the confirmation of what the wiser among you already know if you cling to the Word.


And if you have any doubts about it: Trust me, it’s true. The world REALLY is as bad as the Shepherd says it is, & the fold is really as good. Spare yourself the pain I went through: appreciate it!

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from wondering
Sunday, May 25, 2003 - 00:45

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Anyone knows what the Family Youth Group website is?
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from frmrjoyish
Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 17:33

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Sounds pretty typical of all the other losers who joined TF, left, can't hack it in the real world (aka "system"), and now long for those carefree days when they could use their kids to con money from people poorer than they are, all in the name of "God".  Yeah, it sucks with all those "legal responsibilities" without having "God" to fall back on.  Welcome to the real world, pal!!  Grow up and get a job and take care of your kids you loser!!


Oh yeah, why can't someone be a CM if they're in debt?  What does that have to do with anything?  Any ideas, anyone??


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From Elsie
Thursday, May 22, 2003, 21:08

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I'll make a wild guess.  They stop paying debt, it could bring the Romans to the door, and be real bad for their Heavenly Security. 


This is interesting to hear for me.  Maybe now that I know I wouldn't be allowed back in (because of my debt for premium academic degrees that got me a fab career) I can stop having those nightmares where I find myself in a Family Home, thinking how was I dumb enough to come back, now they put me on the schedule for X and I can't stand that, scheming how to break away again.

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From PompousJohn
Saturday, May 24, 2003, 10:34

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You have those dreams too? I thought it was just me.


Do you also have the one where you're trying to decide whether to take correction without justifying yourself or else pick up that tire iron and slaughter an entire teamwork along with anyone else who gets in the way?


Don't you hate the way the kids in the home look at you after you've beaten their parents to death?

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From Tim R
Sunday, May 25, 2003, 21:36

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Do you ever have that dream where you're walking out in a swampy field at night, using a flashlight to hypnotize crawdads? You don't know why you're there, or why you even want crawfish, but you know that if you found the right one it would all make sense.(reply to this comment
from believer
Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 12:26

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I guess that for any of you to agree with him in the most minimal of things, it doesn´t have to be all thins, it would mean disagreeing with yourselfs. I think that just as radical and fanatical as you acuse those in the family to be, some have become in the oposite extreme. 
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From PompousJohn
Thursday, May 22, 2003, 13:55

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Yes and we are speak Engrish very well now.


He is belief other thing than me, so if I will agree with him than I am not agree with myself.


But he not belief himself anyway, he just want money so can pay he rent without work.


Pray, pray, pray for not work, then God can work miracle and you not work at all, just have big responsibility to pray for everybody with no responsibility. Or else you kids can take can to streetlight for Jesus can dropping dimes from sky and dollars from skylarks.


Praise you Jesus, it's big LESSON for you, Amen?

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From EyesWideShut
Thursday, May 22, 2003, 17:36

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You da bomb, John! Ahh, what a good laugh.


Sank you Jesus! Is REEREE a bressing. Gabureshu! Eetsa mirako!

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from PompousJohn
Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 09:05

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Plain English translation:


I joined the Family when I was already old enough to know better. After a while I got tired of it and tried to make it in the real world as if I were a normal person. This costs money. I don’t have any. Since they are charging me money to live out here I want to go back to a home where I can send little kids out begging to pay for my life.


Unfortunately, there are some rules that stipulate I must be debt free in order to begin mooching again. These give me a lot of doubts and are hard on my weaker-brother faith, but I want to ask for prayer for the following.


1)      Freedom from all responsibility


2)      Deliverance from the burden of rent


3)      That one of you fools will put your faith in action and give me money


In closing I would like to say that I am very humble and you can all use me as a bad example of what not to do for a while before deciding that I have learned many valuable lessons and should really be everybody’s shepherd.


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from Mir
Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 11:33

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Urghh! Yuck yuck yuck YUCK!!! I couldn't even bring myself to read the whole thing!!! This is one effed up individual who is in the process of effing up other people, most importantly, his children.  Poor kids...
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from Pinky
Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 11:25

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The guy's a whining looser who went and joined a cult, got married, and had 5 kids before really thinking about the responsibility and the repurcussions; didn't like the cult life after all and left. --Only good choice so far.


Seems he'd be your average guy with average problems if he'd left it at that. But no. He stays in denial for years until he finally decides to REJOIN the cult--completely forgetting all the reasons he left in the first place. How old is he by now? 40? 5 kids? And here I thought ignorance and indecision was a product of youth. So here's where he pulls out all the stops: he leaves his wife and kids for a "new deciple" who hangs on his every word, no doubt, worshiping the very ground her own private prophet walks on. Did he learn his lesson about fathering children whilst in limbo? No. He has another--just for kicks.


Now his long time wife--the only sane person in all of this--needs a little child support, a little rent money. She becomes the personification of all that is "systemite" and he blames her for the debt. "If only she'd just pay the f___ing rent, and care for the kids, and hold a full time job, and keep her life together, and deal with me leaving her for a "new church", and keep her sanity. Obviously the Lord didn't think much of her because He didn't want her dragging me down, but she should at least pay off our debt so I can be absolved of all responsibility and run off to lala land again".


What a load of whooha! Lookie here, little man with big psychological problems, what you need is therapy, not prayer. At the center of your life's problem's is YOU! There is no such thing as a life where you don't have to work.


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From
Wednesday, May 21, 2003, 14:05

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Really!  That flake says "Sure, it has it's enticing, seeming advantages, like greater independence & so-called freedom. Well, you will have to pay for that freedom by slaving away at some job for a good amount of the week..." Well, I will take "slaving away at some job for a good amount of the week" to "pay for that freedom" any day over what it was in the family:  slaving away all week (I didn't even get to choose my job, that was decided from day to day by people who seemed to hate me) for NO freedom!  Much less pay!!!  Now not only do I get paid, but nobody else tells me what to do with my pay, and I was able to go study hard and get qualified for a job I actually wanted to do (and that even gives me high social standing!).  (reply to this comment
from katrim4
Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 11:04

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If by "other legal responsibilities" he means child support payments to his first family, then I hope his ex has a good lawyer and keeps him "tied down to the system" so that he can afford to keep making those payments. Good for her for making sure her kids are getting an education in the system, more than can be said for him.
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from Joe H
Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 21:09

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"we would like to ask you for prayer for our debt situation, and that the Lord might do a miracle to free me from all other legal responsibilities"  Well Dave, I don't pray, and I certainly don't work miracles, but I will give you some free advice:  Get a fucking job! 
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From
Wednesday, May 21, 2003, 14:08

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Yeah, and like, dude, I've got news for you: as long as you are on this planet you are going to have legal responsibilities!!! Until you're DEAD!! Sheesh!!!  Does he also want to be freed from the legal responsibility of not committing murder, etc.??  He does say "..a miracle to free me from all other legal responsibilities."(reply to this comment
From tigress
Wednesday, May 21, 2003, 10:37

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right on - like the rest of us with responsiblity!(reply to this comment
From tigress
Thursday, May 22, 2003, 09:41

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My above comment was placed funny- I was relating to the "get a job - comment"- I just loved all your comments and will share this with my mate...does this guy is really know what he's asking for??

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from Anthony
Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 15:05

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Question
have you ever had a sincere question about how things were done, doctrines or if you feel something should be different and asked your leaders or mama and peter about what was the most common answer? (pls. take this as a sincere question, not doubtful or disrespectful. just wanting to know the opinions and feelings of folks, like any other poll. tx!)

 








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i got the answer to what i needed and things have changed for the better 2 9.52% http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/yg/img/ui/bluedot.gif" width="9%">
i usually keep my thots to myself 2 9.52% http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/yg/img/ui/bluedot.gif" width="9%">
whats the use of asking anyways? 2 9.52% http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/yg/img/ui/bluedot.gif" width="9%">
i always get satisfactory answers 5 23.81% http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/yg/img/ui/bluedot.gif" width="23%">
i never get an answer 0 0.00%
"tx so much! we got your letter!" 5 23.81% http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/yg/img/ui/bluedot.gif" width="23%">
hmmm, well, let me ask the lord about it 2 9.52% http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/yg/img/ui/bluedot.gif" width="9%">
we really think you shouldnt be voicing your doubts 2 9.52% http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/yg/img/ui/bluedot.gif" width="9%">
"we dont want to answer that, gby" 1 4.76% http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/yg/img/ui/bluedot.gif" width="4%">


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