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Getting Out : Inside Out
Go away cult. Just go away | from dave - Sunday, July 14, 2002
accessed 2079 times I was just wondering: How many people are left in the (dwindling “Gideon’s band”) family? If we second generation adults really were "the future", why didn't the family treat us like it and invest in us? Why weren't we properly educated and equipped for life? Why couldn't we have studied in the family and become the doctors, lawyers, programmers, writers, accountants, admins, managers, business owners, consultants, musicians, actors, editors, executives, designers (to name just a few professions) a lot of us are today? Think of the income that would have brought them if we had the careers we have now while we were still in the family. Man, all the years I wasted in family "combos" memorizing "the word", reading the "Techi series" (poor girl, it's unbelievable how much abuse she suffered) and writing tedious "reactions" to it all. If we could have spent those years learning useful skills, we’d all be better off. Contrary to popular family beliefs, we are NOT in the "end time". Although, it may soon be their “end” time.(Go away cult, just go away). I mean, if they believed us kids were going to “take over” the world one of these days and be “prophets” of the “end”, why the hell did they not allow us to have the potential to become even better missionaries and “witnesses” by experience life on the outside, being allowed to pursue degrees, diplomats, certificates and higher education. Higher education would have only made us better at being missionaries, if that’s what we decided to do with our lives. Berg blasted education, but he was well educated. Berg blasted the United States, but if it wasn’t for our country’s great love for and commitment to freedom, freedom of speech, religion, thought, belief, association, etc, the COG would have never been. Thus the cult was formed on a beach in Calif; and not in China or the former USSR. Go away cult. Just go away!
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Reader's comments on this article Add a new comment on this article |  from Jerseygirl
Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 21:07
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I think the whole point was control.Yeah they could have made money but we would have eventually realised ,through being educated, that things were off. Most of what little education we did get was all Bergs ideas and views which were passed on as fact. What a control freak!
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| from Michael
Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 18:32
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Berg well educated? Does anyone know if that is actually so? from the "letters" etc I can't recollect mention of more than a high school education...
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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| | | | | | |  From EyesWideShut
Wednesday, July 24, 2002, 07:22
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Tony, he went to high school in Monterey. The whole "Do you like pickles? My name is Pickle, George Pickle" happened there.
According to Deb's records of her father's life, he became disilusioned with god and the churches after the Christian Missionary Alliance threw him out of the "little church" in Arizona--for allegedly sexually harrassing numerous woman in the small congregation, NOT for "preaching to the Indians" as we were led to believe. Forgive me if I become a bit confused with the exact chronology of events here. You can check the book for yourself if accuracy is important. After this he studied communism for three years--who'da thunk it? I believe this was his college experience. And then Dr. Koger "visited" him from beyond the grave--when he thought he was dead--etc. We all know the story. Her book clarify's a whole lot.(reply to this comment) |
| | | | | | | | | | | from Ony
Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 02:53
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I'm also interested in knowing how many young folks are stiill holding on to the lies & bullshit we had to believe? Folks our age who wereborn into the group esp.! I'm hoping for the day when the Cult gets so small, and all is left is really old people.Then who will care for them?
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| from porceleindoll
Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 02:19
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I've always wondered the same, why didn't the group give us a chance to become real professionals at something we would have loved doing? They could have raised a generation of devoted geniuses, like the Mormons have done. Although the Mormons have problems with their youth as well, but at least they are allowed to become what they want when they grow up and are raised in the faith of their parents and, for the most part, stick to the rules of the group.
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| from neez
Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 06:54
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what would happen to all that precious 'respect' (yes Uncle/Aunt Azhore, yes sir, please sir, can I have some more sir.. with respect comin at ya Unc..sir..)
problem is no one has stopped to think about what happens to old people in most civilised countries(waiting for superhuman powers & perfect skin??).
They usually live off their own savings (if they had stuck $1, once a stingy month in every kids bank account, we'd be millionaires..), which is of course.. evil, worldly, & selfish.
& of course money is the rootiest of all the evils.. & bad for yer lungs.
So they will have to rely partially on their kids to take care of them.
Lookin forward to guiding 70+ yr olds through the , & potential hardships, & battles of catching a bus to the welfare office..??
& what the fuck is a 'hard ship'
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| | | | from porceleindoll
Monday, July 15, 2002 - 21:36
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I've always wondered the same, why didn't the group give us a chance to become real professionals at something we would have loved doing? They could have raised a generation of devoted geniuses, like the Mormons have done. Although the Mormons have problems with their youth as well, but at least they are allowed to become what they want when they grow up and are raised in the faith of their parents and, for the most part, stick to the rules of the group.
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| | | | from Anthony
Monday, July 15, 2002 - 15:22
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Well said brother, keep it up. I'd be interested to hear what T. has to say about some of these issues as well, since he has some rather recent inside info.
Regards,
Anthony
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| | | | | | | from Alf
Monday, July 15, 2002 - 03:18
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I think the answer to your question is quite simple. The cultists are not exactly the most intelligent group of individuals, in order to buy into the whole cultist mind-set certain mental weaknesses come as prerequisite. True the cultists can sometimes be inventive in their manipulation but their techniques are surprisingly unsophisticated. Sadly they were compelling enough for the tripped out acid-heads and society outcasts that joined up.
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| From Hunter
Tuesday, July 23, 2002, 22:42
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To add to this point, they truly beleived that the world would end "any day now", with that belief why would planning for the future be necessary. With such a belief education as well as saving and investing for the future or retirement becomes unnecessary. Ultimately the responsibility in my mind lies on those that created that illusion rather than the ones who where duped into believing it. Although I would not leave the blame soley there, I'm sure many a blind eye was turned over a lack of better judgment or common sense. (reply to this comment) |
| | From jwalker
Wednesday, September 11, 2002, 12:12
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Obviously true, from listening to most of you, I would think you were never in the Family, either that or you were playing footsy during wordtime. We weren't trained in the "world" ways because those skills were supposed to soon become obsolete. The new useful skills, would be faith, leadership, word knoledege, prophecy, ffing ac soldier abilities, etc. Didn't you guys ever read heavens girl and boy. If you want to attack the Family, you have to go after their premises, which of course you can't disprove, so the endeavour is pointless.(reply to this comment) |
| | | | | from Albatross
Monday, July 15, 2002 - 00:22
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Very good and original point. Very well said as well. Thank you.
Daniel
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