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from emiloovaldi Saturday, November 24, 2007 - 11:48 (Agree/Disagree?) I find that The Family uses terms found in the Bible, but they do not use them in the way the Bible instructs. They pervert everything that is good. That's why one becomes bitter to it. According to the Bible, we need the faith of a child, like a child trusting a parent to provide for its needs...an infant cries for basic needs, (e.i. food, drink, love) and is at the mercy of anyone who can help...God is compassionate. He cares for us. He died for us. What is so confusing about the Family is that they would take that whole part I just wrote and mean somthing so different by it. They would twist it and pervert it. Though that is the truth, they would take it and make a new "truth" out of it that is not what it really means. That, in my opinion, is what makes people turn away from them. They speak out of one side of their mouths, but their actions don't add up to what they say they believe...because what they say is up to their own interpretation, not simply what it is. (reply to this comment)

From TimothyA Saturday, November 24, 2007, 13:54 (Agree/Disagree?) I remember something David Berg said about False religion. That they mix in some truth with their lies. And that's the way I feel about Maria (karin's) revelations and about the way she's "transformed" the Family That's one of the reasons I left was because I wanted to believe in God in my own way.. Like I believe the bible teaches us. Not with scriptual half truths twisting things around... Like where do you get something like the LJ revelation from. If I remember it stemmed from in The bible where the church is refered to as the Bride of Christ. The Power of the Keys.. That the Family is encouraged to use in all their prayers to make them more effective.. Wait! Now I thought even david berg said the name of Jesus was power enough... And, well, prophecy.. That's all about whether you can trust the channel to be hearing from God or not. or whether you believe it or Not. The Love Charter, and the "law of love (sex guidelines) are good things Maria put in place.. At least they defined the rules and made them clear. But I think by all these "doctrines" she's poluted it so far that I don't know if I can even say they're christian anymore. So.... Yes I believe in Christ, and the bible. But I'm not about to ever again believe someone else's doctrine (reply to this comment)

From conan Saturday, November 24, 2007, 12:19 (Agree/Disagree?) Gee, you think? Wow! I'm so happy you enlightened me. I can now tell my shrink that their services are no longer needed. Fucking naive, simplistic idiot!(reply to this comment)

from iratepirates Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 20:00 (Agree/Disagree?) After leave TF I found myshelf thinking alot of stuff that I had been brought up with over. I came to the conclusion that the existence of god ( a christian one) is just not logical. (reply to this comment)

from Meathead Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 05:21 (Agree/Disagree?) I agree with you on that subject. Although I still have my basic beliefs, i have lost all faith in anything and am now a professing athiest. It just goes to say that a man covinced aginst his will is of the same opinion still. (aka. when we have that shit crammed down our throughts our whole life it just turns us against it.) (reply to this comment)

from xhrisl Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 05:20 (Agree/Disagree?) I agree with your sentiments entirely. Afterall, we'll all find out when we are dead, until then anyone who wishes to shove their religious beliefs down the throats of others and particularly myself is welcome to vist the "Almighty" and get back to me with a report after I have personaly sent them on to their maker. (reply to this comment)

from Joe H Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 20:54 (Agree/Disagree?) Yes, a lot of people who left the cult have also rejected Christianity, but correlation does not prove causation - that is, being fed up with a cult will not necessarily cause one to reject Christianity. I have another theory: maybe the same kind of person who wakes up one day and goes "This cult is fucking stupid" is the kind of person who wakes up one day 2 or 3 years later and goes "This religion is fucking stupid!" (reply to this comment)

From cassy Thursday, March 11, 2004, 06:14 (Agree/Disagree?) I agree. I guess my point is that those on this site that are Christian have had to rediscover Christianity for themselves.--It wasn't due to any "helping hand" from the Family.(reply to this comment)

from Dani Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 07:32 (Agree/Disagree?) Just out of interest I wonder if people beliefs are equivalent to the beliefs of the country that now live in and the community that they are now involved in. I think I would also be interesting to see if any religious beliefs were developed or if they were modified from beliefs that were held in TF. (reply to this comment)

From Westside Boi Wednesday, March 10, 2004, 11:51 (Agree/Disagree?) Well Dani, you may have a point. I'm in Los Angeles and here they worship enhanced breasts, fast cars, good food, low cut jeans, good clubs, and the beach. I was a pretty quick convert.(reply to this comment)

From Hmmmm.... Wednesday, March 10, 2004, 09:56 (Agree/Disagree?) It's an interesting question, but doesn't it give the impression that we're all a bunch of can't-think-for-ourselves-reverse-brainwashed-followers? I live in Texas, deep south, Bible belt, more churches in the metroplex per population than anywhere else in the United States (or so I've been told). And yet, I am distinctly not "Christian" in any typical sense of the word. I'm still on a quest for answers (although I expect none to be forthcoming). I haven't entirely abandoned my acceptance of the notion of there being a God and I haven't denounced the possibility that Jesus was who the church claims he was. But at the same time, I'm not entirely convinced either. (Does that make me agnostic)? What I currently accept as the closest thing to a "possibility for belief" is quite a hodgepodge of religions and beliefs. And at the same time, I'm perfectly comfortable with admiting that the reason I "believe" it is not because I'm certain it's true, but because it's what I'm comfortable with. Either way, what I believe/don't believe is quite a far cry from the general population around me.(reply to this comment)