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Elijah Nockwood, speaks gibberish

from Falcon - Saturday, September 06, 2008
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Thought this was hugely hilarious. I mean, the sentences don't even make grammatical sense.

http://elijahnockwood.wordpress.com/


Not Without My Dollars!

Some former members of the highly controversial Family International are currently on a crusade that’s earning them a lot of sympathy (and other benefits, I’m sure) via the media, as they proclaim their gospel of “My father has never had time for me and I’ve been robbed of my childhood.” While that kind of message is extremely popular and successful in getting you all the pity and sympathy you couldn’t even come up with for yourself, what strikes me as the most sad about this issue is that those people must have never really known Jesus, nor cared about anything He’s had to say.
They must be so enchanted and enamored with themselves, they never gave a hoot about the things Jesus had to say in the Gospels about such things as family, let alone some of His more controversial statements on the issue, and I strongly doubt that anyone not familiar with the words of Christ can be a true believer in Him, because it’s the Words of Christ that our faith in Him come from.
The problem is that the Family Intl. is an outfit that takes the words of Jesus very seriously, more seriously than any other Christian church or movement I know, and thus many obviously argue that they’re taking them too seriously. If you take Jesus’ words seriously enough, you won’t be able to maintain a good, nice and clean image of what the world considers a “good Christian” anymore.

Jesus was an iconoclast (idol smasher) and revolutionary who broke with many of the traditions of man (like the Sabbath, that was holy unto the Jews), and , in fact, with anything that ever stood in the way between God and people. He tried to remove any obstacle that could possibly get in the way between God and man, showing us and enabling us to enjoy a personal, loving relationship with God - and through that, with our fellowman, too. And it so happens that for some people, their family is their god, (just like for others, their god is their job, their house, their car, their football team, favorite rock-star, or their belly). That’s why Jesus said, “He that loveth father or mother,… son or daughter more than Me… is not worthy of Me,” and He made it pretty clear that He valued His disciples above His flesh and blood family and relatives, no matter what kind of interpretations lukewarm preachers and moviemakers are trying to give those Gospel passages.

The truth is that the Family Intl. is one outfit that for once is trying to put God first, without any of the idols and other little gods that “Christians” usually worship and serve in reality, and people who are totally alienated to that concept because all they really care about is themselves, simply can’t cope with that.

The world I grew up in was very different from the one that Hollywood so successfully has been making nearly everybody under forty believe exists, of happy, loving, rich families living in pink houses: a world where fathers simply rarely did have time - or much interest, for that matter - in their children, because they saw it as their primary duty to rake in the money. The world I grew up in was one in which you didn’t mind not seeing too much of your father, because if you did, you might regret it… A world, in which two year olds are hurled off to kindergarten and are never that much dealt with by their parents until they’re old enough to move out and need your money…


My wife was sexually abused by her father as a child and lived, even without writing a book about it. In fact, she found it in her heart to forgive him and was the only one of his children around him when he died. It’s a concept called forgiveness, one that attention-junkies are totally oblivious to.
The thing is, the world is only willing to listen to your sob stories if you were member of a group that is the only proof in existence that there is a way out of their miserable treadmill after all. It’s easy to rot together against anyone who’s different, whether they wear a turban or dare to live or believe differently than you, and the establishment will always gladly pay you your 30 pieces of silver for your elaborate “inside information.” They want to believe in their Hollywood make-belief world, and hate anyone threatening to destroy their illusion.

Well, enjoy your selfish dream, folks, for as long as it lasts. In the end you’ll see that all the while you had a more loving Father Who cares about you more than you could ever fathom. You just didn’t care about Him, that’s all.

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from ha, ha!
Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 18:03

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You're funny if you think two year olds go to kindergarten. But, mabey thats because you were home schooled?
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from cheeks
Monday, September 08, 2008 - 19:16

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I just wanted to add, that most likely the reason the father didn't have his other children around his bed is because he probably abused them as well. Only they had enough sense to stay away. He is lucky he didn't go to Jail and his only punishment was dying alone.
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from ..........
Monday, September 08, 2008 - 18:55

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a quote from the link
Chapter Three
How Authoritarian Followers Think
We meet again. If you are keeping track of my promises, as we roll along
together on the internet, I said in the Introduction that we would figure out why
authoritarian followers think in the bizarre and perplexing way they so often do. The
key to the puzzle springs from Chapter 2's observation that, first and foremost,
followers have mainly copied the beliefs of the authorities in their lives. They have
not developed and thought through their ideas as much as most people have. Thus
almost anything can be found in their heads if their authorities put it there, even stuff
that contradicts other stuff. A filing cabinet or a computer can store quite inconsistent
notions and never lose a minute of sleep over their contradiction. Similarly a high
RWA can have all sorts of illogical, self-contradictory, and widely refuted ideas
rattling around in various boxes in his brain, and never notice it.
So can everybody, of course, and my wife loves to catch inconsistencies in my
reasoning when we’re having a friendly discussion about one of my personal failures.
But research reveals that authoritarian followers drive through life under the influence
of impaired thinking a lot more than most people do, exhibiting sloppy reasoning,
highly compartmentalized beliefs, double standards, hypocrisy, self-blindness, a
profound ethnocentrism, and--to top it all off--a ferocious dogmatism that makes it
unlikely anyone could ever change their minds with evidence or logic. These seven
deadly shortfalls of authoritarian thinking eminently qualify them to follow a would-
be dictator. As Hitler is reported to have said,“What good fortune for those in power
that people do not think.”

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from hoot on this
Monday, September 08, 2008 - 09:05

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"....they never gave a hoot about the things Jesus had to say in the Gospels about such things as family, let alone some of His more controversial statements on the issue, and I strongly doubt that anyone not familiar with the words of Christ can be a true believer in Him....

who so ever harms a hair on the least of my children. tis better a milestone be hung on his neck

Col 3:21, “Fathers, do not provoke your children, lest they become discouraged.”

1 Tim 5:8, “But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.”

JESUS GREATEST WARNING, when He said, "As you do unto the least of these my family you do unto me."

Matthew Chapter 25 41 17 Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43 a stranger and you gave me no welcome, naked and you gave me no clothing, ill and in prison, and you did not care for me.' 44 Then they will answer and say, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or ill or in prison, and not minister to your needs?' 45 He will answer them, 'Amen, I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me.' 46 And these will go off to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."


You have an idol in berg and zerby!
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From a tale
Monday, September 08, 2008, 17:19

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A holy man was having a conversation with The Supreme Creator one day and said, Father, I would like to know what Heaven and Hell are like." The Supreme Creator led the holy man to two doors. He opened one of the doors and the holy man looked in. In the middle of the room was a large round table. In the middle of the table was a large pot of stew, which smelled delicious and made the holy man's mouth water. The people sitting around the table were thin and sickly. They appeared to be famished. They were holding spoons with very long handles that were strapped to their arms and each found it possible to reach into the pot of stew and take a spoonful, but because the handle was longer than their arms, they could not get the spoons back into their mouths. The holy man shuddered at the sight of their misery and suffering. The Supreme Creator said, "You have seen Hell."

They then went to the next room and opened the door. It was exactly the same as the first one. There was the large round table with the large pot of stew, which made the holy man's mouth water. The people were equipped with the same long-handled spoons, but here the people were well nourished and plump, laughing and talking. The holy man said, "I don't understand." It is simple" said the Supreme Creator, "it requires but one skill. You see, they have learned to feed each other, while the greedy think only of themselves."



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From a tale
Monday, September 08, 2008, 17:19

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A holy man was having a conversation with The Supreme Creator one day and said, Father, I would like to know what Heaven and Hell are like." The Supreme Creator led the holy man to two doors. He opened one of the doors and the holy man looked in. In the middle of the room was a large round table. In the middle of the table was a large pot of stew, which smelled delicious and made the holy man's mouth water. The people sitting around the table were thin and sickly. They appeared to be famished. They were holding spoons with very long handles that were strapped to their arms and each found it possible to reach into the pot of stew and take a spoonful, but because the handle was longer than their arms, they could not get the spoons back into their mouths. The holy man shuddered at the sight of their misery and suffering. The Supreme Creator said, "You have seen Hell."

They then went to the next room and opened the door. It was exactly the same as the first one. There was the large round table with the large pot of stew, which made the holy man's mouth water. The people were equipped with the same long-handled spoons, but here the people were well nourished and plump, laughing and talking. The holy man said, "I don't understand." It is simple" said the Supreme Creator, "it requires but one skill. You see, they have learned to feed each other, while the greedy think only of themselves."



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From fragiletiger
Sunday, September 14, 2008, 02:21

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and yet the Supreme Creator, was happy to let a group of people starve. (reply to this comment
From vix
Sunday, September 14, 2008, 05:40

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I always thought the people in hell deserved to be there for being too stupid to just get their heads stuck into the bowls.

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from Randi
Monday, September 08, 2008 - 00:12

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"My wife was sexually abused by her father as a child and lived, even without writing a book about it. In fact, she found it in her heart to forgive him and was the only one of his children around him when he died. It’s a concept called forgiveness, one that attention-junkies are totally oblivious to. " 

That is the sickest thing I have ever heard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Boy it makes me fighting mad. Its amazing that such ignorance exists... the fact that anyone can be so obnoxious is unbelievable!! His wife may have survived a life of abuse...but f%%k she went and married him!! Goes to show

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From Falcon
Monday, September 08, 2008, 03:37

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I actually originally posted this under 'Lighten Up', since his I found his nonsensical rambling pure comedic gold. You can just see him there pounding away on the old crusty home computer keyboard while he drinks his two rationed cups of coffee, claiming keys and spirit warriors against these vandari kids. Still, Uncle Elijah feels that before he commits us to the fires of hell, he must first give us warning so our blood will not be on his hands. Oh no, he has to cut his diatribe short! It's his turn on dinner dishes...(reply to this comment
From chaos*
Tuesday, September 09, 2008, 00:24

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Just out of curiousity, how old is this guy?(reply to this comment
From yep!
Monday, September 08, 2008, 18:38

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the blood is now in the hands of jesus. how proud and saintly he must feel!

-this will lighten you up. check the cat jumping from behind the fence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZjZQ6KkiUk
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from Randi
Monday, September 08, 2008 - 00:11

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"My wife was sexually abused by her father as a child and lived, even without writing a book about it. In fact, she found it in her heart to forgive him and was the only one of his children around him when he died. It’s a concept called forgiveness, one that attention-junkies are totally oblivious to. " 

That is the sickest thing I have ever heard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Boy it makes me fighting mad. Its amazing that such ignorance exists... the fact that anyone can be so obnoxious is unbelievable!! His wife may have survived a life of abuse...but f%%k she went and married him!! Goes to show

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from chaos*
Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 19:34

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Such typical low grade character assasination. His only answer to allegations of abuse are that we never "loved" Jeebus. Somehow it's okay that our parents ignored and let us abused because we didn't really love Jeebus anyway. Basically he's not denying it, but rather saying we all deserved it. What a load of Jeebus jizz-loaded crap.

The problem elijahnockwood, is not that you take Jeebus' words too seriously. Most of us don't give a rat's ass whether or not you do. Our issue is this - if you were even remotely honest with yourself, you would have to admit that you follow Berg and Zerby's twisted words over Jeebus' anyday. You don't follow Jeebus. Jeebus' message, if he ever had one, was and is lost on you and is just as foreign to you as it is to a full blown Atheist. Oh and by the way, I probably know my bible better than you do (I was a bad kid sometimes and spent my share of time "in the corner" till I could quote Hebrews 11. Somehow though, by the third or fourth time, I memorized it a lot faster.)

The fact that you think everyone out here thinks life is really as it is protrayed by Hollywood is more than a little insulting. No one seriously for one moment is that brainwashed...wait, except you. We don't believe in a Hollywood world, rather it's you that seems to. Your accusation then becomes an accusation against the whole world for dashing your Hollywood dream of a rich, happy family living in a pink house (Seriously dude. You might wanna rethink your color preferences.). I personally never dreamed of a pink house, a white apartment will do just fine for me. I never dreamed of perfection, but I did dream of having the freedom to think for myself without Jeebus' cum and Zerby's vomit clogging my throat and my brain.

It's at this point though that I realize, I should be pitying you instead. You accuse us of living in hate, yet let's look at things objectively. You hate everyone who's not in the family. I hate everyone who is. So of six billion, you don't hate about ten thousand. Of those six billion, I hate about ten thousand. So please try some objective thinking and simple math and rethink the conclusion you continue spewing that "we" are a bunch of "haters".

Finally, I'm sorry your wife was abused. She should seek justice, if nothing else, to prevent it from happening to someone else. And if it's any consolation, I didn't write a book either. Of the thousands that have left, only 3 wrote books about their experiences. I don't think that quite qualifies the group of us as a bunch of attention whores. If there were thousands of copies of your wife, perhaps a few would've written a book too.

If you understand nothing of what I've just said, stick to your dreamworld and I'll stick to mine.

 
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From nice one!
Monday, September 08, 2008, 17:15

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I thought this was an interesting read on Authoratarians who suffer from a form of stockholm syndrome.

http://members.shaw.ca/jeanaltemeyer/drbob/TheAuthoritarians.pdf
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From celestej
Monday, September 08, 2008, 13:13

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Right on chaos!(reply to this comment
from cheeks
Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 07:02

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Too many Word times turned his brain to mush. Poor thing, if he ever has to leave he is going to have a really hard time. All those illogical Family doctrines are rattling around in his head with little else in there.
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from exfamily
Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 06:02

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What a cunt.
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From Samuel
Sunday, September 07, 2008, 09:54

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Please tell me that you did not just refer to a weak person as a "cunt".  How progressive of you.  Oprah Winfrey would bite your damn ear off for that!

So would Mike Tyson, but that's a different story :)(reply to this comment

From Randi
Monday, September 08, 2008, 00:16

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At least refer to brainless idiots with Penis connotations instead... makes MUCH more sense!!!!(reply to this comment
From scarface
Sunday, September 07, 2008, 22:54

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I'm sorry? Oprah would bite her damn ear off, because mike Tyson would too? Why make the connection, is it because they are both black?  If you dared spew out your out your craziness in front of her, she would command her body guards to take you back stage and break every bone in your body. (reply to this comment
From scarface
Monday, September 08, 2008, 15:51

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who just thumbed me down, and why? I wonder….
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From exfamily
Sunday, September 07, 2008, 13:59

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What? Oprah can stuff it.(reply to this comment

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