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from Kyla - Wednesday, August 01, 2007
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Hi, I'm not sure if 'Seeking Justice' is the right place to put this, but given what I'm trying to do with any information I receive, I thought I'd give it a shot...

I wondered if anyone has any old OHR forms or can remember what exactly were the questions they asked.

Any information/memories would be greatly appreciated, either posted here or sent to my profile's email address.

Many thanks in advance,

Ella

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from SeanSwede
Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 05:13

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I remember the OHRs...messed up stuff I`m tellin`ya.

To add to one of the questions it sounded somethin like this:

Did you have a BM? Was it a float?

HAHAHAH!
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from Phoenixkidd
Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 11:59

Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5(Agree/Disagree?)

There were many forms of the OHR, prior to the Philppine exodus to Japan these were called something else, like daily log chart or something.

But the OHR was a small piece of paper, photocopied, a wierd shape, about 4 by 6 inches, on both sides.

It had about 10 circle boxes for yes no answers to questions at the top such as:

BM Hard? Soft? (I remember getting stumped at what to do for normal BM's on this one)

Love? Yes No >>. With Whom? (I wished I could put something here when I was 12, but nothing would ever happen)

Health: Any problems? Please explain: (As always I answered nothing)

Share your reactions to wordtime:

(This was a eulogy of pseudo insights, double reading and cross referencing Berg's teachings. Just a bunch of nonsense. It did teach me how to BS though)

Share your lessons, trials, victories: (This one was really difficult, usually nothing happened in these categories to a clueless 13 year old)

Any Needs: (This one was always ignored unless you harped on them for a month)

These were done meticulously each day, and sometimes we would get written comments back. With being the self-righteous goody goody 2 shoes, I actually enjoyed or became extremely offended if they criticized my insights into "God's Word"


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From rainy
Thursday, August 02, 2007, 12:15

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For the word time bit they would meticulously check that you weren't including paragraphs of the letter in your 'reaction', so that was trickier. But if you wrangled paragraphs into the other other answers, they'd be none the wiser.

By the time 'prophecy' was a big deal, I could easily spout entire original GNs. And think it was God. (Groan...)(reply to this comment
From Phoenixkidd
Tuesday, August 07, 2007, 08:18

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Rainy, you were just being a child-prophet and exercising your "gifts" Just like the 3 Hebrew children--Shadrack, Meshek and Abendego!(reply to this comment
From smashingrrl
Thursday, August 02, 2007, 21:15

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I used to charge for them. I'm pretty fucking sure each one of us shares two talents in common. We can bullshit better than anyone we've ever met out in this shitty but real world. And don't even try to fucking bullshit us, we're living, breathing polygraph tests on legs.


And now to digress. Um, just watch the doctor phil show on youtube cause I'm writing a paper that I'll pass off as "about a friend of mine". So I will now be my usual (usual=no deeper than a frisbee) self and say, Kristi, you're adorable. (reply to this comment

From figaro
Thursday, August 02, 2007, 22:55

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Oh yea, being that I was the "bad apple" everything that I did was automatically deemed bad, even if the other kids where allowed to do it just fine. So I had to REALLY get good at making good sounding reasons (always labeled "excuses"), logical explanations (but logic was fairly useless back then) or just plain lying to make what I did either seem to be "of the lord" or to simply deny having done it. So my ability to do all those things, and to spot others doing it, became remarkable.(reply to this comment
from Phoenixkidd
Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 11:53

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There were many forms of the OHR, prior to the Philppine exodus to Japan these were called something else, like daily log chart or something.

But the OHR was a small piece of paper, photocopied, a wierd shape, about 4 by 6 inches, on both sides.

It had some circle boxes for yes no answers to questions at the top such as:

BM >>check
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from thatata
Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 06:28

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The Family hardly taught anybody how to really write.All they gave you was an OHR.

I think Ill blame them,for this specific kind of rotten education.
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From sar
Thursday, August 02, 2007, 08:38

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Yeah, instead of creative writing we had to write about trials and tribulations, I remember very frequently having trials about not having any trials. I haven't had to write one yet, but I think we must be good at writing self evalutation reports. I think we also honed the skill of writing in Elizabethan English. I can only imagine the expression of a prospective employer reading that on a CV.(reply to this comment
From Phoenixkidd
Tuesday, August 07, 2007, 08:20

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God I still use Elizabethen English! People must think I am nuts when I write emails. (reply to this comment
From thatata
Friday, August 03, 2007, 02:04

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My OHRs were simple and short,I cant remember the content but it was all rather similar and unrevealing.(reply to this comment
From rainy
Thursday, August 02, 2007, 12:12

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Damnit, don't remind me. I'm supposed to write mine, and am dreading it SO much!(reply to this comment
from rainy
Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 04:35

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It was SO hard having to right them every day, because I wasn't exactly sure what it felt like to have battles and victories, or how to know when I was having them. I became good at opening up word books, finding random paragraphs and twisting the words so they wouldn't be perfectly recognisable to formulate some kind of victory and battle. Or you get together with a friend and both decide on a story, that you had an argument and got the victory, and learned lessons on unity. Because if you handed in an empty OHR, there was a reading list on honesty awaiting you.
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From Ne Oublie
Thursday, August 02, 2007, 04:41

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I think we all became highly skilled at bullshitting our way through those things - come to think of it, maybe that's where I developed the knack for it...(reply to this comment
From figaro
Thursday, August 02, 2007, 22:47

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I defiantly acquired some MAJOR BSing skills. That would be one of the reasons why I'm so valuable as a salesman. (reply to this comment
From Guccigirl
Thursday, August 02, 2007, 15:36

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I know exactly what you mean.... I have developed some major bs skills thanks to OHR's. You know half the time no one bothered to read them... I used to make the younger teens fill mine out for me.... (reply to this comment

From sar
Thursday, August 02, 2007, 08:42

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Some were better than others. I remember one girl in Indo used to occassionally write them for us in exchange for other favours. She was too good at it though and I never had the guts to actually hand in one of hers as I thought it would be a bit too obvious.(reply to this comment

From rainy
Thursday, August 02, 2007, 05:26

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That's where I developed the distaste for it. Why I can't bear marketing, sales, or even corporate ass-kissing. Guess I'm doomed to be a pauper.(reply to this comment
From rainy
Thursday, August 02, 2007, 04:35

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*WRITE, not right...jeez rainy.(reply to this comment
from vix
Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 13:22

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Here's one (this was the original, simpler one. later versions were more complex):

http://media.xfamily.org/docs/fam/bth/bth-0405-0406.pdf


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From AndyH
Wednesday, August 01, 2007, 16:19

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*shudders and shudders but just can't shudder enough (reply to this comment

from A smartass
Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 08:15

Average visitor agreement is 2.5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 2.5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 2.5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 2.5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 2.5 out of 5(Agree/Disagree?)

Here you go

http://www.odh.ohio.gov/ASSETS/AB5C897954DB4D27AE3B2F64FA902668/AOHprocs.pdf
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From vix
Wednesday, August 01, 2007, 13:30

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Heh smartass! Would you believe it took me a second or three to work that one out (blushes). Need to get some gingko balboa or something.

BTW, who had such a breakdown in sense of humour that they actually thought it necessary to give the above poster a thumbs down?? If I didn't know better (which I don't) I'd say we've got some pretty fucking touchy people hanging around lately!

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From smashingrrl
Wednesday, August 01, 2007, 13:44

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Touchy? In here? Naw, say it ain't so. Maybe it's a problem with the BMs. Since we're no longer recording them, could it be that some are forgetting to pinch off a daily loaf?(reply to this comment
from Ne Oublie
Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 08:04

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Aside from the "What Word did you read?", "What lessons did you learn from reading the Word?", "What was your biggest lesson of the day?" ilk, I distinctly remember having to chronicle the number of glasses of water drunk, BMs - how many and a description - and even who, if anyone, you had 'shared' with that day.
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From PopNFresh
Thursday, August 02, 2007, 11:26

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Lets not forget your NWOs (Need Work Ons). I too started using that form at about the age of 8.

If you left the NWOs blank, you'd get a lecture on what you really needed work on, which was pretty much anything and everything. If you filled it in, you were sure to get a demerit the next day for the very thing you needed work on. I finally figured out that I should fill in the lowest point demerit items, so one day I would put "talking above a whisper", and the next it would be "forgetting to wash my hands", and so on, and then be sure to be seen by the adults improving my NWOs. Didn't matter much though. Missing out on Pollyanna for movie night wasn't so bad. "Pollyaaaaaaaaaannnnaaaa! Come and play!"(reply to this comment

From Ne Oublie
Friday, August 03, 2007, 03:23

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You clearly hadn't mastered the art of identifying NWOs of scale. You can always be 'more' loving, prayerful, diligent, faithful or take 'more' word or prayer time without having done anything wrong in the first place.(reply to this comment
From achem
Friday, August 03, 2007, 03:05

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I believe it's, 'won't you come and play'(reply to this comment
From vix
Thursday, August 02, 2007, 11:32

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I remember at one point we were supposed to provide an outline of any conversations we had had throughout the day, and any lessons that we had learned as a result. If you talked to anyone for more than three minutes that constituted a convo.

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From Jerseygirl
Thursday, August 02, 2007, 07:09

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BM? Soft/hard?

Love? w/whom?(reply to this comment
From Hansel
Wednesday, August 01, 2007, 15:07

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I used that exact form from when I was about 8 - 10 years old. (reply to this comment

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