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Getting Out : Seeking Justice

Is there something more we can do in our pursuit of justice?

from Wolf - Monday, August 28, 2006
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I just watched the "cult killer" documentary and realized that another year has gone by and the Family is still there, still abusing children, and we havenít been able to stop them. Children may not be sexually abused anymore, but they are forced to raise money for the vile group, forced to proselytize and denied a real education. I live a fairly prosperous life but it bugs me that I have done nothing to rid the earth of that scum.


Does anybody else feel like me? Is anybody else tired of seeing Zerby and Kelly taunt justice? Iím wondering how many people would attend a peaceful demonstration for justice on behalf of all who have been abused and are being abused by the Children of God / Family International, and if anyone can suggest a location. One location I have thought of: Interpol headquarters in Lyon, France (which is also not a bad holiday area, for those who would want to combine the trip with something more pleasant). Another possibility is to organize simultaneous demonstrations in several locations.

What would such a demonstration accomplish? At very least, the Family will no longer be able to claim that its crimes are only opposed by a few "bitter" former members. It could even result in abusers being investigated and brought to justice. At least 100 individuals would need to participate to make such a demonstration successful.

If a sufficient number of people pledge to attend I can do the necessary preparations such as gaining permission from the local authorities to hold a demonstration, obtaining a united consensus from participants regarding what we will demonstrate for, etc.

If you donít think this is a good idea but have a different idea, please post it here!

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from LUCE
Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 00:20

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Dear Wolf,
I'm sick as you are.I'm doing something,and i believe one can make the diffrence.I collecte many Family's addresses and sent them around.If we all do the same,especially now that xmas season is approaching,we can really bug them and be a hindrance.Advice:hit where the money is,boy!
At least this is what I'm doing.
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from lucidchick
Monday, September 04, 2006 - 12:14

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Wolf,

I would certainly want to attend such a demonstration. I will look out for information.

Another thing that some of us might be able/willing to do in our pursuit of justice is sign a petition for congress (http://www.petitiononline.com/AMOT0205/petition.html) and/or give testimony in resulting congresstional hearings (http://www.amatteroftruth.org/page4.html), whether only written or also in person (depending on ability).

I know this may seem more compelling to those living in the US, but if you think about it, the US connection affected those of us who are of another nationality as well as american children abused abroad. If things were to change in the United States, it could help stop the exporting of abuse (or at least the tax-free funding of abuse with the hard-earned dollars of unwitting americans) as well as set trends for the rest of the world.

I have found out that this organization, which has received and included statements about childhood experience in The Family in their initial dossier regarding child abuse by religious organizations, has made huge progress toward congressional hearings into changing the laws (see, for example, this idea for new law: http://www.voicesofoutrage.com/violence-against-children-act.html) so as to protect children in the future and prevent abuse of the type we went through:
http://www.amatteroftruth.org/


"A Matter Of Truth is a national, survivor-driven organization committed to obtaining federal intervention and assistance in unveiling the truth about religious personnel and their institutions who are responsible for the sexual abuse of children and vulnerable adults.

Experience and knowledge have convinced us that abuse by religious is epidemic in our country. The time of tolerating, concealing, and ignoring this abuse and its secrecy for the sake of protecting religious and civil institutions must come to an end.

No religious personnel, no religious institution, and no civil official is above the Law, and if the Laws are inadequate then it is our duty as United States citizens to see to their change."


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from Ex-member
Friday, September 01, 2006 - 12:09

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I would participate in a peacefull demonstration here in Houston but travelling to the memorial in SD was really hard so i wouldn't do that again.... If nothing else just to put a face to those "angry and bitter ex-members" aka. the beautiful children they rasied as their "heritage" and "testimony to the world" :p
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from loch
Friday, September 01, 2006 - 10:54

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I would participate in something like this in a heartbeat! ...but finding the cash to get myself to Europe poses a problem. :( Ket me know if there's anything I can do to help though.

lochrane@gmail.com
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From loch
Friday, September 01, 2006, 10:55

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*Let. typo. *Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.(reply to this comment
From Captain America
Friday, September 01, 2006, 13:54

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I'm sure that if this does happen, it won't be for quite a while. Start saving now!(reply to this comment
from Thoughtful
Friday, September 01, 2006 - 07:54

Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5(Agree/Disagree?)
How about dressing in sackloth and ashes LOL! judgement is coming on the perverts.
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from GetReal
Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 15:35

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A Demonstration against the cult . Sounds like a good idea but do you really think there are people that care about this enough that they would do more then write about it? If so count me in but I honestly don't think so.
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From Londoner
Friday, September 01, 2006, 07:51

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I think that with the recent arrest of Warren Jeffs, the paedophile Mark Karr being nabbed (who claimed to kill JonBenet Ramsey) AND more importantly the recent Cutting Edge Documentary aired in Britain there is definitely a platform for something like this - better to strike while the iron is hot and whilst the weather is still pretty good, Oh and Leicester square is also a great place to have a demonstration too.(reply to this comment
From GetReal
Friday, September 01, 2006, 08:11

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ok good lucky to all of you , I hope something happens . O yeah ,about karr he is a free man .
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/28/ramsey.arrest/index.html(reply to this comment
From From your link
Friday, September 01, 2006, 15:46

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Not quite a free man:

"Karr was briefly freed from jail but was quickly returned to await extradition to California, where he is wanted on five misdemeanor child pornography counts, Boulder County Sheriff Joseph Pelle said. Karr's extradition hearing is set for Tuesday afternoon."(reply to this comment

From GetReal
Friday, September 01, 2006, 19:44

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yeah I read that after I posted it.(reply to this comment
From Londoner
Friday, September 01, 2006, 12:55

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Yeah, I know he's free but that's not the issue - the issue is that currently there is a lot of media attention regarding the whole stew of cult/paedophile activities enhancing our chances of being heard, a bolt out of the blue when suddenly we are protesting would make people wonder why suddenly all this hoopla?!!! (reply to this comment
From GetReal
Friday, September 01, 2006, 08:11

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"luck
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From Wolf
Friday, September 01, 2006, 04:19

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I will do more than write about it, if I can find a sufficient number of people to participate. I certainly hope there are poeple who care about it enough.(reply to this comment
From solemn
Thursday, August 31, 2006, 16:07

Average visitor agreement is 3.5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 3.5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 3.5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 3.5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 3.5 out of 5(Agree/Disagree?)

Raising awareness can't hurt your cause.(reply to this comment

from Wolf
Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 12:58

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Placebo: nothing great in Lyon itself, but just south of it there are some pretty sweet spots...

Londoner: agreed, I know more ex members in the UK as well. I may start contacting them to see if I can get support for the idea. Do you have any idea what spot might be good and how to go about getting permission for a demonstration?

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From Londoner
Thursday, August 31, 2006, 14:14

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I am British but now live in the States. My reason for saying London is it's not so big enough to get attention but not so big that a demonstration would be ignored: To have a demonstration notice has be given to the Police and must legally specify:

Date when the procession is to be held
Time when its intended to start
Proposed route
Name and address of organizer

It needs to be delivered to a Police station, in the area by hand or certified mail at least six days before the event. A Trafalgar Square, Covent Garden or Westminster are great places.
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from Londoner
Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 09:37

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I think you would be more successful holding such an event in London. There are lots of ex members who live not too far from there who would take part, the British media has also been brilliant in the past about helping us.
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from cheeks
Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 09:14

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It's beautiful there. You are not too far away from the coast, there are some really good vinyards there and farms that make cheese. They also have the regular clubs and stuff for who ever likes that stuff. The only problem? Last time I was there I was defending the Family.
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from placebo
Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 22:49

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All I can say is;Who told you that Lyon is a good holiday area?
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