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from End time prophecy Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 09:39 (Agree/Disagree?) when slown goes down, the end is nigh for all TF abusers... (reply to this comment)

from this one? Monday, March 07, 2005 - 19:57 (Agree/Disagree?) (Grapevine Issue #99; November 1, 2000.) (From NACRO:) Please unite with us in prayer for a court case that is coming up in San Diego, involving a 16-year-old who is bringing false accusations against her flesh and adoptive parents. This case is rather weighty, and if not resolved, could cause not only the individuals involved, but also the overall Family, problems in the future. The first civil hearing will determine if the teen should be returned to her parents or become a ward of the State. If the 16-year-old becomes a ward of the State, then the District Attorney will move on to making it a criminal case. We're praying that the Lord will work in the situation to head off th e upcoming hearing, and we would appreciate your prayers that the Lord will work in the heart of the judge to rule in our favor, that the evidence from impartial academics and experts will be admitted in court, and that the Lord will confound and expose our enemies who are involved in the case. Thank you so much for your prayers for this case and the brethren involved! (reply to this comment)

From Joe H Tuesday, March 08, 2005, 10:45 (Agree/Disagree?) So, I guess their "concrete system" for dealing with allegations of abuse is to call the victim a liar and pray against them. Makes the Catholic Church seem pretty damn progressive by comparison. (reply to this comment)

From Jim LaMattery Tuesday, March 08, 2005, 10:39 (Agree/Disagree?) Would whoever has an original copy of this GN please contact me? What is emerging,I believe, is the intent to obstruct justice on the part of Maria and Peter when the intial case was filed in 1998. I need to verify that this was in reaction to the court case here in San Diego where Miriam Marchbank was made a dependent of the State. If there was an additional case here in SD, I need to know that asap. Thanks- (reply to this comment)

From Wolf Tuesday, March 08, 2005, 20:02 (Agree/Disagree?) I burned all that stuff when I left ... it was one of the better moments of my life. I have Infostore 2, though, which has everything up to 2001 I think .... I can mail you a copy if you like. I don't have the CD key, though.(reply to this comment)

From Shaka Tuesday, March 08, 2005, 13:38 (Agree/Disagree?) If that was a notice posted in a Grapefine it is probably included in the ARC and should be easily obtained as it is not a CM only publication.(reply to this comment)

From Wolf Tuesday, March 08, 2005, 09:23 (Agree/Disagree?) I feel like killing somebody right now... (don't take this seriously, please) What was the outcome of this case? Is this the girl who was bribed $5000 to keep her mouth shut? (reply to this comment)

From xolox Tuesday, March 08, 2005, 09:29 (Agree/Disagree?) That won't even buy you a brand new piece of shit Kia! How cheap.(reply to this comment)

From Tuesday, March 08, 2005, 06:42 (Agree/Disagree?) This just shows what they think of people who try and seek justice in a court of law, the accused in question hasn't been up in court yet, yet they can say as fact that the girl is lying/being a false accuser, without hearing any evidence or having gone through due process. Zerby and Peter, you are not the judge, so untill the judge calls a rulling, keep it zipped. (reply to this comment)

From Lance Tuesday, March 08, 2005, 05:21 (Agree/Disagree?) This isn't really any good unless you show the original grapevine document. On another note: "That the evidence from impartial academics and experts will be admitted in court". What is that suppose to mean? (reply to this comment)

From Sonderval Tuesday, March 08, 2005, 05:53 (Agree/Disagree?) Seems quite clear to me, for 'impartial academics and experts' read anyone from their list of people they've managed to con with a visit to a PR home, and they're hoping that their conjecture about a group they've never been a member of and have never been allowed to see into will prove more weighty in court than evidence from people who have actually lived through it. We just gotta hope for a good judge.(reply to this comment)

From LTN Monday, March 07, 2005, 21:07 (Agree/Disagree?) Yes, this is a great help. Are there any other articles on this case that you might have access to? This is a great start. Thanks very much --John(reply to this comment)