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Cherish L speaks her mind to her mum.

from lucidchick - Saturday, December 28, 2002
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I'm not the author of this letter, just posting this as a favor for my friend Cherish (Jules: I hope that's OK), who's either too LAZY or too busy taking care of Gaucho (world's most spoiled miniature countertenor dachsund) to post it herself ;) (girl, I did the minor editing we talked about).

I know how much you hate it when I speak my mind, but I really have no choice being that every second I grow older and smarter I realize what a fucked up background I came from. How ironic is it that my 13 pound son, Gaucho, has taught me what I never had the opportunity of having growing up: stability and love!!!!!!! I know that Gaucho would never leave me for 11 years as did my father in the name of a blind cunt, (aka Karen Zerby,) and an even greater pervert [for initiating sex with Mene, his own flesh and blood] Mo', the 'lion' who's currently burning in hell!

Anyhow, Gaucho has taught me something I've never had been able to learn: love is real! And it does not matter if I was only able to experience it at 28 years's there! Anyhow, as much as I shouldn't, I do harbour feelings for you, and I wish you weren't as paranoid and 'sketchy' as you are! But what am I to do? Nothing! My 28 years has not done much for our relationship. All I can hope for is that Dad leaves the cog and that I can re-establish my relationship with him! I'd LOVE it if you left as well, tho' I'm also well aware that you leaving is 'wishful' thinking on my behalf.

All I can say to the COG, are a few words which I share with the likes of H., G., M., M., F., Davidito, E.C., T.C., S.C., (to name a few)....etc., etc., etc.,: 'Los amigos del barrio pueden desaparecer, los que estan en el aire pueden desaparecer, pero LOS DINOSAURIOS VAN A DESAPARECER"!!!!!! A song written by Charly Garcia, in Argentina in the early 70's regarding the military dictatorship, and a song that gave me the courage to run away from the most horrific existence I've yet to encounter, at the age of 17! Am I pissed? HELL FUCKING YES!!!!!!

You guys, 'The Family' or 'The COG', which ever you prefer, are the worst examples of parents I've yet to encounter! You guys committed crimes on us kids which are FAR worse than those committed by the NAZIs! And I have no doubt that the ones who came up with the 'torture' (like making me wear a sign on my neck at the 'Enterprize' for three weeks that said 'I can't talk, but I can smile' what? you think I've forgotten that torture?!!!!! The one thing a 'normal' college education did for me was to help me realize how strange my entire past was, and I feel like the most fortunate woman in the world to have been able to get an education after the past I had to endure.

What the FUCK is the 'VENDARA' prophecy about? Tell your blind CUNT (A.K.A. Karen Zerby) to fucking get a life!!!!!!! I'm sure that the DELUSIONAL 'Vandari' prophecy was written by Karen, due to the fact that her eldest son, Davidito, has since spoken his mind (and the truth) about the abusive childhood Karen Zerby made him endure! And there is not a single thought in the world that would make me doubt what he says!

I know that you hate to hear this, and just like you went on T.V. in Miami, back in '93, and blatantly lied in front of the world, that the Davidito book never existed, I have no doubt that you'll refute what I'm saying. But you see? The beauty of this is that I now have seen again copies of all of the 'literature' I was exposed to growing up; which replaced scholastic reading (gees, I would have been so lucky to have read normal stuff!) Like: "Heavens Girl' 'Summit Jewels' ('93, which was published a year after I left, and in which Karen Zerby states that the family teens are 'out of it' for not being into adult/minor sex......she says; "our young people have a weird and conservative'
attitude towards sex": FUCK YES........I DO--------I don't want any of your disease filled adult COG members fondling me! Sorry, I may be conservative, but I've seen WAY too much when it comes to the males who belong to the COG!!!!! OK., then, the DAVIDITO book is out there! Lovely!

I'm not sure which is worse; 'Mexico Teen Training' Camp, in which me, an 11 year old is sent to to shout slogans such as 'revolutionaries for Jesus', or you and Dad not taking me to the doctor when I had spinal meningitis in Peru????!!!!! Me mad? You bet! I have reason to be! And all those dead beat, good for nothing, p__ of s__, not too mention irresponsible parents, who make up the COG, will pay someday.......that's something I'm sure of, due to the fact that you guys have brought that ill fate upon yourselves!

You guys are the weirdest people I've yet to encounter, and I feel very fortunate that I've always known (even when I didn't know anything else) how FUCKED up your whole religion is! I can't believe I actually have the courage to say this to you, but I've got to......'If your god is as you say he is, tell him (or her), I told him to go FUCK themselves!!!!!

Sorry, but your leader, Karen, and her WHACK prophecies like the 'Vandari' one, only prove to me how crazy and delusional you guys can become.---Not too mention down right twisted and evil! I laugh at how she (Karen Zerby), is going to roast in hell!!!!! I know that you're liable to deny everything I've just stated, and that's fine with me! But, as my mother, you must realize that it's healthy for me to talk about the abuse I endured growing up; abuse that you never once sheltered me from. Being at the Peru Teen Combo with Juan running his hands all up and down under-age teens to ensure that we did not have bras on, and being on 'sharing' schedules, and me running the kitchen with ZERO schooling;;;;;;;;;;;;oh, yes, that's the 'privileged' up-bringing kids in the COG had, not to mention being raided in Mexico at the age of 5! And then of course, watching you and Dad fight over whether not you should engage in FF'ing! C'mon!!!!!! It's not like I'll ever not think about these issues, so I'd rather you confront them and make an attempt to rectify the BULLSHIT you irresponsible hippies and parents subjected their eldest children to!

OK., now that I've told you about my feelings; I also want you to know that I love you and am thinking of you. xo!


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from Snufkin
Thursday, September 02, 2004 - 10:14

U know what bugs me? The fact that if anything ever happens to me, it will be practically guaranteed that the family will publish a sweet little "prophecy" in the GV.. from me... stating that i have repented, and am sorry for having left the family... i was deluded, but have been reformed and am "back on track" now... yada yada....
Its so sick! I shud write my family and friends and say that on no account they may get prophecies from me... not that that would stop them, they would just prophecy an "apology" how i didnt really mean it and etc...
Isnt it illegal or something?
How can we keep that frm happenning?
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from tobi
Monday, April 12, 2004 - 20:35

Average visitor agreement is 1 out of 5(Agree/Disagree?)
speaking of 'moving on" which happens to be the title of this site, sounds to me like you haven't moved on one bit.
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From Nancy
Tuesday, April 13, 2004, 08:47

Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5(Agree/Disagree?)

Out of respect for Cherish and her memory, please don't comment here. If you want to make your pro-Family comments, do it in another article or another website. Have the decency to respect the dead!

Cherish is at rest and not here to respond to your trite opinions. Even the law recognizes the inability of the dead to respond or defend their prior statements and thus has heightened standards for admissibility in such cases. Those who praise such "wonderful work" of the Family should have, at least, the appearance of the same respect.(reply to this comment

From clark
Thursday, September 02, 2004, 12:13


I'm confused, in one comment cherish has passed on and another she is carring for her dog. Is she alive, or are there 2 different ones being discussed here.

--- New to this site(reply to this comment

From JohnnieWalker
Thursday, September 02, 2004, 14:39


Here is a eulogy written for her elsewhere on this site. She died on August 3, 2003 (the article was posted shortly after her death): to this comment

From JohnnieWalker
Thursday, September 02, 2004, 14:42

August 3, 2003 is the date the eulogy was given on and not the date she passed away on. My bad.(reply to this comment
From banal_commentator
Thursday, September 02, 2004, 12:23

Look at the dates clark(reply to this comment
From Tim R
Monday, April 12, 2004, 21:40

Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5(Agree/Disagree?)

Groan, not this again. Here, save us some time and read through this section first: to this comment

From sweetchick
Monday, April 12, 2004, 21:36

Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5(Agree/Disagree?)

Go to Hell Tobi! Who the fuck do you think you are? You're so full of shit, it's pathetic!! I personally knew Cherish and everything she is saying is true and not the least bit exagerated. I lived in Brazil, Peru and Mexico around the same time she did. So I know exactly what she is talking about. Juan used to grab us by the titts and butt all the time. The first time I saw him naked was when I lived at the teen home in Niteroi. He completely stripped all his clothes off and took a dip in the pool. K. had big breats for a girl her age (12 year old) and he was always coming up from behind and grabbing them. M & C were 14 and 15 at the time and were constantly "sharing with the shepherds or Musicians. It was considered an honor to fuck "Singing Sam" (nasty fat ass) or any of the top leaders at the time. Some of these girls live really fucked up lives now.

In TF, excomunication is used for any crime or breaking of the rules. If you rape a child or drink more than your weekly quota, the punishment is the same. Can u imagine? Abusing a child is an offense equal to drinking 3 beers instead of 2, "murmuring, "doubting" or not believing that Berg is God's "Endtime Prophet"! That is how they value the lives of their children.

TF's interpretation of "moving on" is to forget the past and pretend it never happened! Well fuck that! It did! It is not behind us and may never be! Maybe you don't thing TF is so bad and maybe you have so many pleasant memories is because YOU are one of those nasty, child abusing, mother-fuckers who liked having 8 and 9 year old girls sucking your cock for breakfast!

You must not have experienced the same type of abuse and mistreatment that we did, or you wouldn't be yelling "move on"! (reply to this comment

From elkyle
Thursday, September 02, 2004, 00:28


i care. what happened to Cherish. it sounded like she was so excited about her future and hopes.

write to me personally if you want.

elli, in galveston to this comment

Thursday, September 02, 2004, 00:59


With all due respect, are you one of those people sent by James Chancellor to have a "ministry" toward the SGs?(reply to this comment

from Auty
Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 10:53

I'm a little confused as to which Cherish this is? Is this Jamima of Mary MOM? Or the other Cherish Loyd/artist?
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From Fish
Thursday, September 02, 2004, 09:52

Do you know where Mary MOMs older daughters are? Im an old friend who would like to contact them. If you have info, please write!(reply to this comment
From Auty
Thursday, January 02, 2003, 11:08

Okay, never mind, I took a look at the photos, she looks nothing like Cherish (Jamima). My bad.(reply to this comment
From sarafina
Thursday, January 02, 2003, 17:15

Yeah you don't want to make that mistake Auty. Rebember the email our dear friend Autumn got for making a similar mistake of identity.(reply to this comment
From CherishL (A.K.A. Cherish Ety)
Thursday, January 02, 2003, 14:32

geez, girl, you busted out my identity. If you tell her about this she is going to get pissed, so please don't. She doesn't like the J name

cl(reply to this comment
from Big Sister
Monday, December 30, 2002 - 02:16

First prize from Big Sister for effective use of capitalizaton and multiple exclamation points by an angry photographer!
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from thepersoniamnow
Sunday, December 29, 2002 - 15:01

well said! well said!
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from Pure Hatred
Sunday, December 29, 2002 - 09:37

that was great! i'll probably write something similar to my parents. now all we need is an organized action to "make them pay". we say it all the time, let's do something about it. any ideas?
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From pure hatred
Sunday, December 29, 2002, 18:38

yup, I'm publishing a book in '03 with the assistance of my professor's (that's where I earned my bachelor of fine arts in photography) at the Ohio State University. Other than that I'm fairly confident in the success of a class action suit which is being formed as you read this e-mail.


cherish Lloyd ('Ety' is the name I'm publishing under)(reply to this comment

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