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from Rebekahunknown - Friday, July 14, 2006
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Am I a non-person?

I was born into The Family in 1972. I have had four children and have left The Family, but I am having a hard time. I don't even exist and neither do my children, we were never registered, so what do I do? If I use my given name and someone from The Family finds me, I am not sure how they will react. But I can't remain a non-person with my children also being non-people. Has anyone else had to face this problem since they left?

I can't get a drivers license without a birth certificate, which I also need to get my social security card, which looks really odd since I am 34 now - they are going to ask me questions about why I have never worked and why I don't have socials for me or my children.

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from "TARA JANE PEREZ"
Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 21:59

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What do i do now?Cuss,cry,kick,moan,groan?Or does DADDY learn? tell me "TARA JANE PEREZ" R U A BADFISH2? You left me in the worst way any person ever could of.WHY?You must of really hated me.Now, where do i take this pain of mine?I run but it stays right by my side.YOU TOOK MY FAMILY,MY BEST FRIENDS,MY SOULMATE,MY HOPES FOR A BETTER TOMORROW.2 WRONGS CANT MAKE A RIGHT, SO IF YOU EVER FIND THIS POSTING,I'M SORRY FOR MAKING YOU FEEL THAT YOU HAD TO DO THIS,AND TARA JANE-I FORGIVE YOU FOR YOUR WEAKNESS,YOUR MADNESS,YOUR PAIN. GOD ONLY KNOWS THE LOVE I FELT FOR YOU,SOULMATES? I THOUGHT SO.BUT KNOW THAT WHERE EVER I GO, I WILL TAKE A PIECE OF EVERY THING THAT IS GOOD,PURE,LOVING AND KIND IN YOU WITH "ME" AND WORK ENDLESSLY THROUGH OUT MY LIFE TO HONOR THE LOVE I HAD&HAVE FOR YOU. FIND ME, CALL ME ,NEVER GIVE UP,THROUGH OUT TIME & SPACE, LOVE WILL FIND A WAY. GODBLESS.I MISS U BABYDOLL. LOVE YOUR BADFISH "ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ"
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from Nick
Monday, July 17, 2006 - 08:29

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Dude,
They really don't give a crap why you have never registered or why you have never worked before. Infact I really doubt that they will even notice.
If for some odd reason they do ask you, just tell em whatever you want. It's none of their business. If you are worried about "lying" to them then just tell them the truth. Honestly, that girl behind the glass at the SS office really does not give a crap.


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From figaro
Thursday, March 29, 2007, 23:19

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i went through some of this also, and nick is right. if they even bother to ask just tell them the truth. what can they do? tell you you cant have one? thats illegal!(reply to this comment
from Hydra
Friday, July 14, 2006 - 18:34

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If you are living in the United States (which from your post it sounds as if you may be), my suggestion would be to work immediately on obtaining your birth certificate.

It is vital to any form of integration into normal society and is worth obtaining no matter how long it takes or what it takes to get it.

If you have ever been issued a passport (and I have yet to hear of one family-born child in our age bracket that hasn't been issued a passport) then you have a birth certificate. If you know where you were born, contact the county registrar to find out what the requirements are for obtaining a copy. In most cases they require you to write a letter providing your name and the names of both of your parents (mother's maiden name) as well as your date of birth. The fees are usually minimal.

If you were born abroad replacing a birth certificate gets more difficult. This link provides useful information: http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_825.html

If you have never had a birth certificate (in which case, I realize I am speaking to a non-ex-family person), in most cases you can still obtain one. Each state (possibly county) has its own laws on how to go about doing this and although it entails more work, it is still doable.

You obviously have internet access, I would suggest you research it on the web first to save yourself time and hassle.

Unless you plan to live and work as an illegal immigrant or unless you are supported by other means, it is vital to obtain a social security number. -- It's possible you already do have one if you carry an American passport. Although passports can be issued without social security numbers, it is a lot more complicated and time consuming to get one if you don't and many family parents applied for social security numbers for their children for this reason.

If you do have a social security number but do not have a card you can obtain the number from the Social Security Administration over the phone by telling them that you've lost your card and need the number. By answering personal questions they will tell you what the number is but will not issue you a new card without seeing your birth certificate. (This may have changed in the past few years, but it is how it was for me when I needed to get ahold of my SSN).

If you don't already have a SSN, it makes absolutely no difference if you are 34 years old and walk into their office for the first time. As long as you are legally in the United States you are entitled to one and they MUST issue you one. If they ask questions, tell them the truth -- you were raised in a cult that didn't believe in such things and you have finally gotten out and are attempting to start your life from scratch.

Whatever you decide to do, please for your children's sake, do not settle for less than you are entitled to in life.

Lastly, you might want to clarify why you're nervous about using your given name lest Family members find you....last I heard current family members don't usually go around looking for ex-family....they really could care less.

Good luck.


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from I hear you
Friday, July 14, 2006 - 16:22

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This is a very good question; I wish I knew more about what to do. I'm sure many other SGA's have had similar problems.

I had some trouble with my American citizenship, since I wasn't born in the USA and didn't live here for long enough before I was 18. I cleared everything up by joining the Military, which of course isn't the answer for everyone.

Did you ever have a passport? Also if you know where you were born the local government might be able to send you a replacement birth certificate.

I wish you the best, and hope you get everything figured out.
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From GoldenMic
Friday, July 14, 2006, 18:39

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Depending on where you live, I can probably help you, or somebody closer may speak up if you note your location. It sounds like you need somebody whose been in the world for some time, both to show you the ropes and to help you walk through some of your concerns. Also, it might help if a professional assisted you, somebody that knows how bureaucracies work and also knows which of your fears about the world and TF you should pay close attention to, and which one's are simply embedded triggers that have been used to convince you that you'd be a failure if you ever got into the system... a complete lie. Anyway, I am in San Diego, California, so if you are in California I could probably assist. Also, feel free to write me or simply just keep posting here, it really does help to get support from fellow SGA's. Good luck, and it DOES get easier as you are gone longer, until one day when its down-right WONDERFUL to be alive. (reply to this comment

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