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Is Dust (David) a pedophile?

from jezz - Wednesday, February 13, 2008
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I heard a rumor that Dust (at one time he used the name David and went back and forth between the two names) was excommunicated from a Taiwan home for [sexual abuse of a minor - information identifying victim removed by admin]. Does anyone know if this is a fact?

At one time he lived in that massive home in Fukuoka (around 1989). He was married to a 50 yr old lady named Sara - I remember that his wife was the oldest adult in the home while Dust was only 28 or 30. I think that he joined the family when he was young - 16 or something. He then moved to Taiwan and remarried to a Chinese girl named Ruthie (she might have changed her name) and began breeding. He's from Canada and I remember him being very big and very strong - very Scary. I think he was a body builder at one time.

In Fukuoka, he was always in charge of "JJT" and the nursery. I don't remember how many babies and toddlers were in that nursery but there were a lot! I often ended up with the job of emptying all the potties and carrying them back and forth between the bathroom and the nursery - it was a full time job! eww! gross!

Well, it's the potty training episodes that haunt me. All the toddlers were sat on a potty at the scheduled time each day. Dust used to spank the toddlers that hadn't gone "potty" in the time frame given. There were always a few. I remember one little Japanese toddler in particular who never passed potty check. Dust would bend him over his knee (bare bottom of course) and spank him sooo many times and sooo hard ( I don't even think Dust realized his own strength). The boy would scream at the top of his lungs and Dust would say "I'm not going to stop spanking until you stop crying". Yeah right like he can stop crying. Dust would stand the boy up and give him 3 seconds to stop crying. Bend him over again and repeat this over and over. He would then put the boy back on a potty and give him like five minutes to go. Sometimes the boy went if he hadn't already peed his pants and other times the whole spanking process would repeat. I swear that little boys butt was black and blue every single day that I lived in that home. I remember putting cream on his butt everyday because he would always cry that his butt hurt.

I have the most awful memories of myself and others being beat but having to watch those one, two and three year olds being beat like that haunts me. I wish that I had tried to save that little boy but I realize that at eight years old there was nothing that I could have done. Besides I needed saving myself!

Many years later I ended up in the same home as Dust in a different country. Again, I was in the nursery and noticed that one of the boys (2 yr old) had a SEVERELY bruised black and blue butt as well as bruises on his legs and lower back. It was obvious that his butt had bleed a little. Well I find out that Dust had been "on" nursery the day before. As punishment, the "home shepherds" made Dust apologize to the little boys parents and take the day off to "read the word". The only reason that Dust was "punished" was because at this time in TF, there were rules on not making such noticeable bruises for security reasons.

Dust has always been creepy to me. If I remember correctly, his wife was always having to "get the victory" for not giving him enough sex. I remember at those daily hugging rituals his hands moved just a little too freely.

I would like to know if the reason that Dust was excommunicated is because he was caught [sexually abusing a minor - information identifying victim removed by admin], Was he a creep to anyone else?

Here are some of the reasons that I am so disturbed.

1. He was caught [sexually abusing a minor - information identifying victim removed by admin], which makes me wonder how many other times he molested her and others without being caught. Somehow he managed to work in nurseries a lot!!

2. I heard that he's teaching English to little children in Taiwan now.

3. I heard that [...] he is living in the same household as [information identifying victim removed by admin]. Not to mention her brothers and sisters. [His victim] must only be a teenager and in that kind of isolated environment may not have anyone to stand up for her. She may not even know that what [he] did to her was wrong.

From what I understand, there is no good set up for child protective services in Taiwan. [The victim] would also have to speak up to make a case. She might feel trapped as she would most likely be speaking up against [...]'s wishes. This is only speculation. I could be wrong.

If I have any wrong information - please set me straight!

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from Frippant
Friday, April 04, 2008 - 04:22

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OFG...Can someone pls tell me what year in Fukuoka is this? Cause I was born there and am a Japanese guy and this scares me...
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from Was this already discussed?
Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 10:08

Average visitor agreement is 1 out of 5(Agree/Disagree?)


http://www.movingon.org/article.asp?sID=1&Cat=10&ID=3489
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From fragiletiger
Wednesday, February 27, 2008, 01:09

Average visitor agreement is 1 out of 5(Agree/Disagree?)


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From They are different ppl
Tuesday, February 26, 2008, 18:59

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One is Canadian and the other Japanese(reply to this comment
from Vandari on Safari
Saturday, February 23, 2008 - 00:03

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Hey;

I lived w/ Uncle Dust/David first at a home called Fred's then at a home called Scott's both in Taiwan. I always remember how as children we used to make a game of who would get by U. David every morning w/out getting a hug, cuz' oh man his hugs were fucking sick. Anyway, he got married to Auntie Ruthie, had 3 kids last I know, Oldest was Monica. My family left Taiwan to move to the Mainland but maid frequent trips to Taiwan to visit our supporters. While I was still in The Fam. I made a trip w/ my dad back to Taiwan, and got the entire story. U. Dust, was caught [sexually molesting a minor - identifying information removed by admin]. When WS got ahold of this information they told him that he was to be on FM status and that he was to return to his place of origin. Well, his wife freaked out because she couldn't handle the 3 kids by herself and she begged WS to let him stay w/ her. So, he is now on FM status, [with access to his victim - identifying information removed by admin], and his wife. The SICK FUCK! Does this help you out?
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From jezz
Tuesday, February 26, 2008, 19:23

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Thanks Vandari!
Do you know any details such as the names (legal?) of the leadership who put him on FM status and which home he was living in at the time? Do you know his full legal name?
Also, do you know how old his victim was at the time of the incident (s)and how old she is now?
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From vix
Saturday, February 23, 2008, 01:00

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Admin, just to let you know there's some editing needed here. thanks :-)

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From Censors Please!!
Wednesday, February 27, 2008, 10:22

Average visitor agreement is 1 out of 5(
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Somone needs your services. ...

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From vix
Wednesday, February 27, 2008, 13:37

Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5(Agree/Disagree?)

If you were the victim in question would you want intimate details of your experiences of abuse published on a public site for everyone to see, without your knowledge or permission?? People should not be 'outed' as victims unless it is by their own choice, and you are incredibly obtuse if you can't grasp that.

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From Censors Please!!
Wednesday, February 27, 2008, 14:16

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I conceed, shamefully, I didn't read the whole thread. Children who were abused shouldn't be outed by others. This is an appropriate use of censorship powers of the admins of the ether.

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From Captain America
Wednesday, February 27, 2008, 11:28

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In the US, (which I assume is where the server of this site is located) under tort law 652D, Publicity Given to Private Life: One who gives publicity to a matter concerning the private life of another is subject to liability to the other for invasion of his privacy, if the matter publicized is of a kind that (a) would be highly offensive to a reasonable person, and (b) is not of legitimate concern to the public.

FAQ 18. Who is responsible and/or liable for what is written on this Web site?

"The owner of this site (that would be me, Jules) is liable for anything written on here. No one is suing anyone else apart from me for what is written down here. ...I take full legal responsibility for this web site, whether I personally agree with the participants or not."

I hope this helps.

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From vix
Saturday, February 23, 2008, 01:01

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Or maybe I'm getting a little too big for my boots. I'll rephrase that: There might be some editing needed here.

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from yep
Thursday, February 21, 2008 - 03:21

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when i lived in Taiwan his name was David and he was married to Ruthie. He is a pedophile.
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from dust dares a reply
Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 07:51

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From neez
Saturday, February 16, 2008, 15:03

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Can I ask what happened here? Was someone impersonating a response from this Dust guy?(reply to this comment
From double
Saturday, February 16, 2008, 10:00

Average visitor agreement is 2.5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 2.5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 2.5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 2.5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 2.5 out of 5(Agree/Disagree?)
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Saturday, February 16, 2008, 15:05

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Thursday, February 21, 2008, 06:18

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From packman, darling
Thursday, February 21, 2008, 06:37

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From you in a bag?
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oh wait, you weren't talking to me.(reply to this comment
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A fucked up volleyball.(reply to this comment
from placebo
Thursday, February 14, 2008 - 15:46

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I remember him reaching his hand under prepubescent girls' shirts and asking if there was " anything growing down there"....Whether that is abuse or not I won't judge but he was always one weird canadian.
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From cherrycrumble
Friday, April 04, 2008, 08:48

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Lol, he did exactly the same thing to me all the time and i always remember even in my child's mind thinking he musta been some idiot to think a 5 year old grows breasts. And remember how he would induce an asthmatic fit everytime he corned the more frail and nervous children for his enforced tickling sessions.... I don't know if this is what keeps being edited out but yes he was excommunicated (and allowed to return) twice for sex with his daughter she could not have been older then 6.

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From vix
Friday, April 04, 2008, 11:07

Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5(Agree/Disagree?)

Sigh. Isn't it enough to say 'sex with a minor'? Is it so hard to understand that there might be an issue of invasion of privacy in making specific statements like that??

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from vix
Thursday, February 14, 2008 - 10:19

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Admin, in the paragraph marked three (and possibly four as well), isn't there still too much information regarding the identity of one of the alleged victims? Anyone who knows the family (or of them) would reasonably be able to figure out who fits the description, which surely constitutes an invasion of that individual's privacy. Perhaps some details should be removed?


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From MovingOn Admin
Thursday, February 14, 2008, 14:21

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You're right. That's been removed.

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