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Cult Leader Caught

from Phoenixkidd - Tuesday, August 29, 2006
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Finally a cult leader has been caught.


So much to my happy surprise, they finally caught Warren Jeffs

See here:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060829/us_nm/crime_polygamy_dc_1

He is responsible for all kinds of hideous crimes including embezzelment of school funds for his and his cronies use. These go as far as a helicopter pad and buying all the property in his town of Colorado City, AZ. It's funny that the only real sensation or thing that everyone's up in arms about is him endorsing the marriage of a 16 year old to an old geezer. Authorities almost choose to ignore the fact that he kept that whole community and all their children under his cultish mind controlled and dictatored circumstances. Anyone else think this reminds them of the HCS?

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from Regi
Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 12:12

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I'm sure others have mentioned this, but as much as Iím relieved that this creep is off the streets, I'm upset that TF's leadership and some of its members are getting away with crimes that are so much worse. This guy is accused of arranging the marriage/rape of a teenage girl (or maybe more). While this crime is despicable, it doesn't come close to the abuse children and teenagers suffered in TF. God, it makes me SO mad! Sorry guys, I guess I just have to rant for a minute or two once in awhile.
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from Samuel
Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 17:25

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Boo rah! They caught the bastard! Go USA!

Who let the dogs out?! (Hoo, Hoo, Hoo, Hoo, Hoo!) Who let the dogs out?!

On a more serious note, I watched America's Most Wanted the last time they talked about him. They showed a long voice clip of him teaching a class so people could get acquainted with his voice. Oh my word, it was almost exactly like a young David Berg! Low voice, talking slowly, clearly annunciating. Just like Berg would talk, and it would sound like he was talking down to people. Except for being younger, Jeffs' was almost the same as Berg's.

If I remember correctly, he was teaching about how "the way of the black man leads to sin and death". I hope he rots in jail.
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From Dissonant
Thursday, August 31, 2006, 09:01

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"Boo rah"? "Go USA"? I am speechless, for once.(reply to this comment
From Fish
Wednesday, August 30, 2006, 20:02

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Just out of curiosity, what exactly is "the way of the black man"?

Is it related to how in movies and TV shows they always play some cheesy RnB track whenever the black character comes around?

God I hate that.(reply to this comment

from uhm,
Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 13:06

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am I the only one who is finding it really difficult to care about this?


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From Captain America
Wednesday, August 30, 2006, 13:39

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No, of course not. I'm sure there's many others like you that don't care. There is however a great deal of people that do care, perhaps because of the similarities to TF, (which seems to be a reoccuring subject here, I can't for the life of me imagine why) and also because the HBO show "Big Love" features a polygamist sect loosely based on Jeffs cult, the leader on the show is "Roman Grant", and he's wanted by the FBI for many of the same crimes as Jeffs.

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From uh yes,
Wednesday, August 30, 2006, 14:48

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thank you mr superhero :-)

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from loch
Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 10:12

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Hell yeah! It's about time the FBI did something right, oh wait, they wern't even the ones to catch him. Still....this is wonderful!
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from Nick
Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 07:43

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I was watching a show about this on CNN last night. For a start this guy is as bad if not worse that Berg was and it's about time he was brought to justice.

However what I saw on that CNN show last night was IMO shocking! The local police were not only his followers but his henchmen! These officials who are supposed to serve and protect were using their authority to protect this criminal! During the broadcast last night the CNN reporter was threatened with arrest and citations by the officers if he didnít turn off the camera and get the hell out of there. The reporter was one brave dude and completely stood up to the officer, challenging him to tell him why he would be arrested and what the deal was, but off course they got no where.

I am just shocked that they have gotten away with this for so long and the rest of Utah has not taken action at least against the local cops in that community.

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From Phoenixkidd
Wednesday, August 30, 2006, 12:52

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Well they owned lands on both the Arizona Border and Utah, Colorado City is in Arizona, so it was a long toss up as to which State would start to pursue this case. All the land is owned by the church so the people of the church are basically tenants--or slaves as a matter a fact. If they do something wrong, he takes away their wives and gives them to someone else...Horrible Fiend, the State is trying to take away their land and give it to the tenants. Their are hundreds of kids who grew up in the cult that were cast out of the cult or married off to older men. Thank God. (reply to this comment
from Randi
Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 23:41

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This is great news!!! Just think of all the lives he has destroyed...hopefully his followers will be free now from all that bondage and evil....Hope they wake up and grow and brain. Honestly though, why didn't the government do something sooner??? They knew this was going on...it's just shocking.
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From GoldenMic
Wednesday, August 30, 2006, 11:30

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While I share your hope that Jeff's arrest will result in new freddom for his followers, this very site is a testament to a cult's ability to continuing exploiting and oppressing even AFTER the leader is gone. Sadly, this arrest may only serve to hieghten the members' sense of persecution and separation.(reply to this comment
From ange
Wednesday, August 30, 2006, 12:31

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I would expect that there would also be the possibility that he'll find a way to continue controlling the cult from inside, which would be a cause for concern. Some of these people really seemed to be supportive of him. (reply to this comment
From loch
Wednesday, August 30, 2006, 10:23

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I know, I've been disturbed by him all year, for some reason, and the fact that his sect was building a new little commune.It pissed me off that the FBI couldn't just go in there and grab him, but he buy's the land they build on,so it's private property. (reply to this comment
From Hmmm
Wednesday, August 30, 2006, 11:08

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They do not think that he was ever at that commune in Texas. Thats why they never tried to nab him there.(reply to this comment
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From NClaunch
Saturday, September 30, 2006, 09:05

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I recently started somewhat of a fight on the Live the Creed site, when someone wrote that he probably is innocent and that you can't believe the media and what have you. I can't (well, actually i can) believe that family members are defending this guy.(reply to this comment
From afflick
Wednesday, August 30, 2006, 12:10

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The Jeffs story frustrates me because of its dissimilarities to TFI. While the government DID take its sweet time in deciding to come after Jeffs, at least his dirty deeds were done on U.S. soil. At least he used his real name. These differences serve only to highlight to me the hurdles between our case and that of Colorado City. If it took THIS long to arrest Jeffs, will we ever see justice in our lifetimes?(reply to this comment
From no,
Wednesday, August 30, 2006, 13:04

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we won't.

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From Phoenixkidd
Wednesday, August 30, 2006, 13:03

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Afflick, I don't think we will ever see justice in our lifetime, maybe only a conscious understanding of how strange and bizarre a child's life can be..Think about it, there are no reciepts, no bank accounts, no paper trail! Nothing that proves a connection between subject X to action Y or even an affiliation of X to Z which causes Y. It's so frustrating. I am just glad they caught this guy and plan to do something about it!! They should imprison all their guys that took all those wives. I think the key issue why Arizona and Utah took so long to deal with this is because of economic reasons...you take away that church and it's leaders and all your stuck with is whole communities of single mothers and children...It's really sad. (reply to this comment
From Albatross
Wednesday, August 30, 2006, 13:52

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I think Ricky understood the problem with getting real justice better than anyone else. While these pedophile are alive we still have a chance at justice.(reply to this comment
from ange
Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 15:38

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Oh wow, that's really interesting. He was also featured on one of channel fours cutting edge series in the UK. That was another very interesting program.
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From ange
Tuesday, August 29, 2006, 15:39

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http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/C/can_you_believe_it/debates/80wives.html?hpos=BL3(reply to this comment

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