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Getting Out : Creeps
about TERRANCE MCNALLY | from Taunter - Thursday, April 21, 2005
accessed 5482 times Does anyone have information about Terrance McNally? Does anyone have information about Martin (aka Terrance McNally)? He was one of the leading leaders during the Victor Programs. He was very evil and unmerciful. He is one of the main people from those programs who needs to be put in the limelight for his participation and crimes that he committed against humanity. He was one of the main taskmasters who amongst other things executed the punishments of physical abuse which he inflicted on us children during the years of Victor Programs of which he participated actively in.
I demand that justice will be set upon that man. I demand that he be punished for what he did all of those years to us children who suffered by his cruel hand both mentally and physically. He was of sound mind and heart at the time and can therefore not blame his actions on The Family COG.
All adult members who participated in those Camps need to be brought to justice.
May they all live in shame till the end of their days. |
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Reader's comments on this article Add a new comment on this article |  from Randi
Friday, February 15, 2008 - 06:40
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Hmm I don't know this Martin guy, I guess that was in Japan, but I completely agree with you... All those people who ran the victor camps or had anything to do with them (First and foremost the leaders of TF Zerby and Kelly), certainly need to be brought to justice!!! I was a victor myself, and suffered a great deal during that period. Worst of all, saw my friends suffer, beaten over and over again... abused in so many ways. It was disgusting.
What took place in Thailand in general, was so crazy!!! I would really like to shed some light on the atrosoties that took place over in Bangkok under those leaders, Silas and Cephas and also Tiago. I remember how they really thought they were something...Words fail me at the moment... Ill think of something later... But I would like some feed back from anyone else who suffered under that sick situation in Thailand... !!! Im waiting:
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| from SeanSwede
Friday, January 18, 2008 - 02:50
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Sure give me all of the numbers you got. Thank you!
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| from distressed
Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 23:21
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hey there Martin lives just out of Kyoto, soon to move back sandiego to be with his son, if i wasnt in Osaka right now i wonder what i would do to him, still got his mobile numbers though.......contact me if you would like more info
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|  From Phoenixkidd
Friday, February 15, 2008, 07:52
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Geesh I fear for Martin (Terrance) safety if he ever moved back to SoCal. We don't need another Ricky incident! No one ever made me feel more degraded about myself than terrance, I hated the guy and just couldn't get along, reminded me too much of my Dad. I remember though a lot of "Uncles" I got a long great with --Uncle Jay of Teresa, Gabriel of Lamb, even Arthur of Becky, --But Terrance still makes me cringe after 18 years!
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| | from Rain Child
Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 06:00
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Is he "Jesus" on the Treasure Attic Videos?
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| | | | from shikaka
Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 20:46
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for a time, he was the designated "disciplinarian" at the HCS. I recieved dozens of merciless beatings from that prick. Last I heard he had settled in Osaka, Japan. He deserves to be skull-fucked.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | from Phoenixkidd
Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 12:31
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God, I hated that guy, he was so damned self-righteous and would talk to us like we were toddlers. He really got to me, more than anyone else, I haven't got a clue where he is, although I assume he's in Japan or somewhere. He worked his way up at the HCS eventually becoming a teamwork member, and now he possibly may be a CRO. His special "formula" for working with teens got him recognition. Catherine, former wife of Ricky who left the family in 95' and then moved back to the family in Indo, apologized to former victors for her conduct.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | From WTF?
Friday, July 29, 2005, 03:30
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Well, if you in fact remember my first comment, I did say I knew his family well while growing up so yeah, it is close to home. And what's wrong with sticking up for someone you know who so obviously is not what is being said about them?
But then again a few weeks ago someone on this very site said someone had died of cancer so my friend rang him up & he was in fact, very much alive.
Mmmmm......What to believe..........(reply to this comment) |
| | From weegirlie
Friday, July 29, 2005, 07:46
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Sorry but how do you know that he's not exactly what she's said he is? You weren't there. I personally don't know the guy (thank goodness) so I can't say, but seeing as she has said she's got first hand knowledge of these things I'd be more inclined to believe her than some anonymous person who vaguely claims "he's not like that". How many times have rapists, murderers, child molesters or whatever been found guilty and everyone who knew them goes "oh but he/she was such a nice person". That's absolutely no reason to doubt the credibility of brixtonslum's statement.(reply to this comment) |
| | | | | From WTF?
Friday, July 29, 2005, 00:07
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No, I don't need a big hairy anything from you, even if it's your thanks. Everyone spells a word incorrectly every now & then. And by the way, I don't even know who JoeH is since I joined the site only a few months ago so why would I be pretending to be him? --Wrong again.
Fotunately my stupidity has an "off" button, as opposed to your rudeness button which seems to be pretty much on at all times. Mkay?(reply to this comment) |
| | | | | | | | From a young woman
Thursday, July 28, 2005, 18:57
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So every male on the planet who is over 18 who thinks it would be cool to kiss a 17 year old actress or model is a pedophile then, huh? And what are all you young men going to do when you get older? If you think that young women are pretty/sexy now, do you think that you will only think 40 year old women are pretty/sexy when you are older too. Gimmie a break. I think a pedophile is someone who has or tries to have sex with a teenager or younger. Merely being attracted to a younger person but not doing anything about it doesn't strinke me as being a pedophile either. At least they have self control.
What I'm trying to say is that young women happen to be pretty & sexy, but liking one doesn't make you a pedophile.
Am I right guys?
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Thursday, July 28, 2005, 18:02
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Well then I think he/she (brixonslum) needs to clarify himself/herself because calling someone a pedophile is not a light thing. If he/she is eye witness to his/her sister's abuse then he/she needs to be more specific. Above he/she only mentions that he (Ez) used to beat the ......... out of kids. And on the photograph he/she called him a p. What home was this in, how old was the sister, etc, etc. I have a really hard time believing that he has those kind of tendancies toward young girls.(reply to this comment) |
| | From brixton slum
Friday, July 29, 2005, 03:37
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You'are obviously a Family member, possible even a close relative of this sick man. So, No, I don't need to 'clarify' anything for you. Nor do I need to tell, you of all people, how, when and where my sister and I were abused by him. My sister and I don't own you, or James Rudow, any sort of explanation. (And I don't give a flying-fuck if you take exception to me calling James Rudow a PEDOPHILE, because that's what he is.) We are the ones who have to live with the mess he's made. (reply to this comment) |
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Friday, July 29, 2005, 03:48
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No, I'm not a family member or relative of his, sorry. Like that was the nastiest thing you could say to me.
And of course you & your sis don't own me or were you trying to say "owe me"(???)
Did you tell your parents about this abuse at the time or anybody before today? What did they do about it?
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Friday, July 29, 2005, 04:26
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PS: I think generally people on this site ask questions so that we can understand you better. If you are defensive & cynical of our wanting to know the truth then, how do you expect to be understood. I probably do not know all the parties well enough to really know for sure, so that's why I asked questions. (reply to this comment) |
| | | | | | | | | | | From hmmm
Friday, July 29, 2005, 10:03
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Just getting in on this thread. It's pretty hard for a girl to come out and announce the name of her abuser, so I applaud you for doing so. I knew Ezra well in Japan and always thought he was a nice person, but being nice can be deceiving. One thing we know about child molesters is that they're normally the nicest, most deceptive people. It's usually a shock to the community when a pedophile is called out because the individual always acted as the nicest person on the surface. I wouldn't discount what this girl is saying about Ez just because he's a nice guy. On the other hand, she's the only one I've ever heard of claiming that he molested kids, I wonder if anyone else would be willing to corroborate her accusation? If it’s true, then he should have to pay, if it’s false, well this girl just sent his family in a tail spin. (reply to this comment) |
| | From tuneman7
Monday, August 01, 2005, 18:48
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To my way of thinking it's James Rudow/Ezra who put his whole family in a "tailspin" by joining, supporting and being a leader in a group founded by a criminal, abusive, alcoholic, child rapist (Berg).
Sending his kids off the victor camps and all other type of nonsense. That man, not any victim is responsible for any heartache his family currently experiences as the result of his perverted actions and associations.
Also when it comes to naming specific perpetrators, I've seldom found it the case that some child who now grows into adulthood simply wakes up one morning and decide to falsely accuse someone across the sea. Actually, more often than not the victim decides to do nothing because of the shame they experience, and their desire to just be what our parents never gave us the opportunity to be; “normal”.
I have no interest in "Making up" accusations about anyone. If we do that, aren't we just as bad if not worse than these criminal, deceptive, child-abusing founders and leaders of the group? I hate Goddamn liars and deniers. I have no respect for any girl or boy who makes up false accusations against anyone. By doing that they debase themselves to the same lows of the criminal leadership and cult members they claim to be attempting to expose.
So far I haven't met a single girl who has simply fabricated accusations against anyone. There's always at least one other collaborating account. In the case of Berg, Zerby, Peter Amsterdam and others, there are so many collaborating accounts of their perversions and crimes against helpless children:
1. Faithy
2. Mene
3. Armendria
4. Davidito
5. Davida
6. Others – I won’t use their names here.
What’s more likely? -- That these characters just woke up one morning, got under the influence of Satan, and conspired to besmirch “God’s Loving Prophet”. Or that this vicious criminal (Berg) who viewed little girls as objects of his own perverted sexual desires was in fact making little girls perform sex acts with/on him, raping them, while Maria recorded events and molested then in Unisom with him, and then ordering their vicious beatings and imprisonments whenever they were deemed by him or Zerby to be “yielding to the devil.”
– Interpretation: in Berg/Zerby’s/Peter Amsterdam/Sam Charles Perfilio’s cult vocabulary:
“Yielding to the forces of Satan” =
1. “Standing up and saying ‘no’ to any further sexual molestation.”
2. “Confronting Berg on any issue of his personal conduct specifically his chronic alcoholism, chromic verbal abuse and random molestations of any cult woman he happened to want.”
3. “Telling the truth about what happened to you.”
4. “Doubting that Berg was ‘God’s Endtime Prophet’.”
5. Displaying symptoms of psychological problems; that very often are the direct result of severe abuse.
6. Asking questions like “Did so-and-so do this to so-and-so at this time in this place.” – Sure way to get yourself in serious trouble, if you don’t believe me, try it, -- see what happens. You’ll either get dismissed or rebuked with their cheap intimidation tactics.
7. Asking what happens to the money.
8. Asking for a public apology from the top leadership acknowledging their personal sexual molestation/rape/assault and false imprisonment against with your sisters, friends and yourself. Not some bullshit like “Bad things happened that break loving Mama Maria’s heart.”
Something more like “I Peter Amsterdam, following the sample of Berg, decided that it was a good idea to have ‘dates’, with Mene, Davida, and other little girls in Berg’s household from this time to this time in this country. I later on lied or deliberately misled everyone into thinking that I had nothing to do with such things. I also hypocritically, viciously, and vitriotically attack and besmirch these victims I committed crimes against and encourage everyone else to discount their suffering and continue to give me their money and their daughters and the futures of their children.” I digress.
I agree it's a serious accusation. My sympathies are always with the victims, not the cultic, vicious, vitriolic, hardened, embittered child abusing lying and denying cult members. I’ve caught them all in so many first-hand lies, that it is now my opinion that anyone enmeshed in the leadership structure of that group has internalized their culture of deceit and denial. The burden of proof should be on them, not the destitute victims.
After knowing all this, if culties want to continue to be involved with this criminal nonsense mongering then they deserve to be lied to. -- 2 Thess 2:10b-11, for whoever reads the Bible, the cultists certainly don’t.
The quote “People get the government they deserve.” is only part of a larger quote attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville, I believe the original quote says something about a land of slave or servants being doomed to the rule of tyrants and they the tail-end kicker is the famous “People get the government they deserve”, which is used extensively. Well, these cultists deserve to be lied to at this point. Any young person still in who doesn’t have the balls to ask their leadership the serious questions about their personal conduct, and then seek out and an find the truth, they deserve to stay in a cult that will exploit them, keep then educationally deprived, etc. …
This whole business of no education at the tertiary level has nothing to do with “doing more for God.” It has everything to do with staying under their control. With an education, any current SGA could do massively more for God than they can currently. Become a doctor, or a lawyer, or an engineer, or a teacher and they go out and really consider the poor and reflect well on God rather than just using this shallow charity front as a means for perpetuating your own cultic lifestyle. Besides you’d give more tithes anyway.
Well the cult has been screaming that Jesus is going to come back any time, so don’t do any of that. What a load of ass-crap. Even from a strictly biblical perspective these dudes are such a bunch of self-important clowns who think they know more than the Bible. Matthew 24:36. I’m not putting these scriptural references in here because I’m trying to promote any one belief system. I’m just trying to demonstrate that whatever it is they’re practicing has little if anything to do with sound Christian theology or even basic biblical tenants. But who am I? I’m not an “Endtime Prophet”.
Point being if they’re truly concerned with winning the world for Jesus there’d be none of their controlling foolishness. Jesus doesn’t need people to lie and bend the truth for Him. He certainly doesn’t need a perv posy of criminal, incestuous pedophiles, rapists and controlling child-beaters to lead an “endtime army”, -- now apparently against their own children.
Those children should be thinking in terms of college, and if they want to be missionaries, do it with some class and have something to give rather than holding your hand out in third world countries and getting congressional funds put into the account of some philandering, pedophile, child-beater (yes, he was one of those “WS Leadership” types who had to prove his loyalty by going into a room and viciously beating a 13-14 year-old Mene because Zerby told him to do so) criminal idiot like Grant Montgomery.
I wonder why they don’t encourage people to go to University, even when some have spelled out that they wanted those educational skills in order to further Christian work? – Pretty simple, when you to school you’re taught to think for yourself, to be critical, to analyze, etc., and not accept anyone’s, even your teacher’s opinions about stuff, but to form your own. Not very compatible with a blind female criminal pedophile’s and her male band of perverts around her, demands for unquestioning loyalty and unbending obedience, while at the same time publicly refusing to answer any legitimate questions about her and Berg’s treatment of the children in their care, most notably Merry Berg, whom she has on more than one occasion flatly refused to answer questions about put to her by her own membership. She won’t answer questions, but expects unquestioning loyalty?!!!! Man the life of a prophetess is great. Wish I could get away with that in the real world, refuse to be accountable to anyone and then expect everyone to be accountable to me, and oh, yes, before I forget, “SEND ME MY TITHE! DAMNITT!”
Well, again, if people are stupid enough to not hold their leadership accountable, they deserved to be lied to, exploited, and further controlled.
Well, those SGAs have no excuse for themselves when they come out at 40 or 50 with nothing. I’m not opening my home to them. Zerby sure as hell isn’t going to take care of them in their old age like she did Berg and make sure they have access to incredible healthcare and treatment as she does and Berg did.
This whole business of respecting any one person too much is totally against the Bible anyway. -- Proverbs 28:21 . Well they’ve eaten more than a few pieces of bread during their decades of fleecing the flock, while molesting, beating and imprisoning the children of the flock, and depriving them of every opportunity for a better life.
Back to work.
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| | From a concerned FGA
Thursday, April 21, 2005, 14:51
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He was in Japan last time I heard. He lived in the Osaka area and was of "FM" status for many years. He lived with his son and was doing English teaching.
His previous name was Bart. His sister lives in Taiwan. Her name used to be Christina Kinder.
I know that they were brought up Catholic... maybe Martin used the same harsh discipline which was used on him?(reply to this comment) |
| | From Concerned daughter
Tuesday, April 26, 2005, 08:52
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Excuse me, I don't know who you are, but you have no right commenting on the lives of individuals unassociated with this particular thread. My mother never did anything to harm children and she should not be brought into this discussion. You have no right to disclose her location (which happens to be incorrect anyway) or comment on anyone's background. The Family's disciplinary guidelines are responsible for the way children were treated, not my grandparents.(reply to this comment) |
| | | | | | | | | | | From Phoenixkidd
Thursday, April 21, 2005, 12:50
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She apologized to me, and another gal that was a victor also told me she was sorry for her conduct during the victor times. Remember Group-Think, which is strongly used by the cult, can make people do nasty things that they normally wouldn't do. For instance take the Nazi's, and Japanese war criminals. Generally most people are kind and when they are young are idealistic and joined this cult to fill their dream of "service to the Lord" but then they get hammered and made into a cultie by constantly reading that bullcrap that they become mindless zombies and justify their actions by the cults literature and leadership's approval.(reply to this comment) |
| | | | | from SeanSwede
Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 12:29
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Martin!! What do you have to say for yourself! I want an OHR front and center on my desk about all of this by tomorrow morning! Hey, are you tuning in here SON! Ok that`s a demerit right there! What did you say? Are you talking back...to me?! Don`t you...don`t you eyeball me boy!Ok thats another demerit right there again! I dont know but soon itll be the paddle for you boy and I dont know how much hide youve got packin`but there wont be much left after we are thru with you!
Remember the Blue House at the HCS where the Attack Team where staying along with Ben (who commited suicide) amongst others? If I ever see you, so help me God I WILL be asking YOU to go and get the PADDLE!
I Damn you and curse you forever! I will never forgive your sorry ass for what you did to us! We will piss and shit on your grave! SHAME ON YOU! SHAME ON YOU!
I want the world to know that Martin aka Terrance McNally, is a goddamnd loser and has a VERY dark past in his closet.
My name is SeanSwede and do hereby testify that Terrance McNally is a VIP certified CHILD ABUSER and is in desperate need of a date with the judge.
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| From Weeder
Thursday, May 05, 2005, 07:10
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I was to young to be in the victor programs. However I knew Terrance Mcnally both in and out of the Family and he seems to be a pretty decent guy. His son is a good friend of mine. He has nothing bad to say about his father.
But Sean, theres some stuff me and alot of other people could say about you. So, before you condemn other people I suggest you take a look at yourself.(reply to this comment) |
| | | | | | | | | | | From SeanSwede
Thursday, May 05, 2005, 08:58
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Anything you have to say about me is nothing compared to things that others have ever done. So what is this stuff you and alot of other people have to say about me. Just give it to me. I really dont care what it is. Especially if it was something that I did under 18. Don`t worry I wont be embarrased if its something personal just hit me with it...please! I can`t recall anything that I did in my adolescent state of mind while in The Family.
So what the hell is it than big boy/girl!(reply to this comment) |
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