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from trciky1 - Saturday, December 06, 2003
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His name is 'Victor Landivar'

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from Armorin
Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 09:38

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I knew this guy in Peru, when he was a catacomb and joined under the protection of Faithy and Juan. They sent him to my home but after 2 months I kicked him out throwing all his stuff out into the street for him to pick up. He was a bum and selfish SOB who was always after little girls. He was about 19 at the time.

F&J never even cared about his behavior and always rewarded him and took him him into "Musica con Vida". Juan, who at that time was involved in his own sexual adventures with other teenagers, gave him his wife. Faithy was happy to keep him under her wings (what an image!). So, I am no surprised that he is now still going strong for his own appetites when he received so much support to exercise them from people like Juan and Faithy.

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From chokehold
Thursday, March 25, 2004, 09:05

How long was Francis in Peru for and where did he go directly afterwards? Also do you have approx months/ year? (reply to this comment
from tuneman7
Thursday, December 11, 2003 - 07:58


He went by Peruvian Francis or Francis Peruvian in Thailand where he lived for many years. He coached the singing team at the Bangkok TC, (mainly comprised of girls). At one point he confessed publically to having relations with a 14 year old girl in the past and having suffered partial X-com for that incident. I believe that was around the time when Flirty Little Teens Beware came out.

Teen girls were always getting in trouble for flirting with him. Eventually he acted out his fantasies with two teen girls that I know of, one was 15, the other was 16, there may have been more. He was partially ex-commed for it, served his sentence of partial ex-communication then raised funds, went back to Peru from where he went to Russia where I believe he got in trouble again for some incident and eventually married some unknowing little Russian girl.

There was one adult in Thailand he was very interested in, curiously she looked like a 17 year-old. Interestingly she was asked to leave the home because she liked another man and it was putting him through "trials".

He was an excellent fund-raiser and an extremely charismatic fellow who was well liked by outsiders and raised thousands upon thousands of dollars monthly in Thailand. This is primarily why he was not disciplined adequately by the leadership there nor did they adequately protect their young people. I can only emphasize that he was perhaps one of the most effective fund-raisers the organization has ever had at a grass-roots level and he was incredibly efficient in the contact cultivation aspect of things. When he was leaving Thailand he was given some time to raise funds for his trip to Peru and then to Russia. Because he had such a wealth of contacts in Thailand he was able to raise close to or over $20,000 designated for his trip from his contacts in a very short period of time, which is no small feat in a Third world country. This goes to show the types of contacts he had cultivated there. He wasn't, of course, allowed to keep all of the funds and this was the source of some small conflict with him and his leadership while he was on his way out.

He was probably prone to this type of behavior to start with, and re-inforced this pattern through the abuses and perversions which were rampant condoned and institutionalized at MWM.

He was well liked by leadership and rank-and file in Thailand alike. He left because his wings were essentially clipped and he could no longer operate with the freedom he used to before these incidents came to light. The incidents were rather grevious in the sense that he confessed to neither, the teen girls did. He owned up when confronted but didn't come clean of another which was later reported by the same teen girl as a result of a conversation she had with the second girl who had also "done stuff" with this fellow.

It was pretty bizzare in the sense that he actually believed he was having a relationship with one of the girls, complete with love letters etc.. In fact they had to move the teen girl from the TC to another location to prevent them from communicating. Even then he attempted to courrier love-letters back and forth to this girl through people who he could rely on "not to tell".

In short, this fellow is a known offender who has a track record of pedophila. He is a repeate offender, and will probably engage in this behavior again if given opportunity.

The reason leadership in Thailand never really threw the book at him is more complex than the fact that he was simply one of the most excellent fund-raisers there. -- Which was most certainly the case. The leadership structure in ASCRO was / is headed by Silas and Endureth. No personnel decision regarding this fellow was made without their approval. The connection is made when you understand that these two characters were also some of the head hanchos along with the two characters who were then known as French Paul and Marianne -- now going by other names -- at MWM specifically their little perv camp known as "Loveville" or some other such ridiculous name. So Silas and Endureth were his leaders in MWM where they knew of all this chicanery, engaged in it themselves, etc., then again they were his leaders in Thailand. -- Get the picture? Wonder why they were dis-inclined to be too harsh on him or kick him out completely? -- Now you know.

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From Also...
Thursday, December 11, 2003, 09:02

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If I remember correctly, weren't there also some FSM "how-to's" that were published that were written by him, all about how to raise funds and get pledges, etc. Just confirms what you wrote, that he was not dealt with accordingly simply because he was so "useful" to the "cause". But that is one of the most pervasive traits of TF, their "political" treatment of people; those who were needed/useful/financially profitable were always treated with kid gloves. Those who were not as important to them were throw-away. (reply to this comment

from ChrisG
Thursday, December 11, 2003 - 01:16

Yes, I lived with Manuel when I was 8 years old in Vienna and he is the sickest pervert that I know. He liked having sex with little girls, and once my friend in Vienna walked in on him having sex with a nine year old. I also was brought to his bed for a sleepover, and slept with him and his wife. I do not remember everything that happened that night...I remember waking up in the middle of the night naked and cold, and Manuel woke up to warm me...but then the memory blacks out. I do remember that after that night I was scared of him and did not want to go near him.
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from anovagrrl
Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 17:00

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If you're interested in outing this predator, please contact the following person with specific information regarding his crimes against children in TF:

Matthew A. Howe
Executive Director
National Alliance for Choice in Giving
P.O. Box 4572
Portland, ME 04112
Tel. 207-761-1110
Fax. 207-761-1115 or email:

Matt Howe is on an advisory committee that oversees inclusion of faith based social services in the federal combined charities funding stream. I've contacted him about FCF as a charity front for TF, and he has responded with interest. The people responsible for charitable choice and the faith based social services movement really do not want criminals to be members of their charity initiative.

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from EyesWideShut
Monday, December 08, 2003 - 21:33

A.k.a. Peruvian Manuel. He was such a pervert and abuser. When he was "cast out" and had to wander out into the middle of nowhere, Vladivostok, he started perving out on all the young Russian girls who were attracted to the group. He married one. He also used to do my mom, which I'm not too happy about. Yuck!
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From Christy
Monday, December 08, 2003, 23:24

Why am I not surprised? Once a pervert, always a pervert. I won't get into details but he molested one of my friends back in the days when it was semi-accepted. He was always a little too mushy and affectionate toward my sister and me (we were 11 and 13 at the time). Because my friend had warned me about him, I kept my distance as much as possible. I can definitely confirm that we pre-teens were freaked out by him. (reply to this comment
From exister
Tuesday, December 09, 2003, 10:01

"semi-accepted" glosses over the facts. The sexual victimization of children was fully accepted and condoned at all levels of this organization. Shit rolls downhill and what Berg was doing to little girls in his hidden compound was being emulated by his followers right down the ranks. In fact I would venture to say that the closer a child was to the inner circle of the family the more severe his or her abuse.(reply to this comment
from Alien
Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 16:43

think his name used to be Francis Peruvian. Lived in Thailand for a long time.
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From exister
Thursday, December 11, 2003, 10:27

Ah yes, Thailand, the Mecca of child rapists, where sexual predators can score a kiddy gang bang for less than the price of a meal back home. Is it any wonder he liked living there?(reply to this comment
from Wolf
Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 09:27

Yeah, I used to live with him when I was 10. I only know two child sex abusers and he was one of them...I won't go into the details because they involve people who may not want the details posted...let's just say him and his wife used to practise the little girl dream (her on one side, little girl on the other). His wife was fucking gorgeous though -- definitely a MILF -- not Phoebe, German Maria (she came after Phoebe). They really made the most of FFing, Maria’s “fish” gave Manuel a Rolex (kind of a thank-you-for-letting-me-screw-your-wife) and gave her a brand new Volvo -- of course the “shepherds” made him sell the Rolex and the car and buy the “home” a trashy van instead. As you can see by the photo, he regularly ditches his wives when they get too old and marries a younger one…the current “flame” is a Russian in her early 20’s.
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From Yes
Sunday, December 07, 2003, 12:24


His tastes always went that direction...he got "partial-excommed" a few times for doing stuff with underage teens girls. Then he moved to Russia and married his latest wife.(reply to this comment

From mikio
Monday, December 08, 2003, 03:10


hmmm, I only knew the Ascro incident, the (then) 14-yr old girl got in trouble too for being a flirty-little-teen(reply to this comment

From Vicky
Sunday, December 07, 2003, 12:31

God, that's sacrey, isn't it! I wonder if his latest wife would care at all if she found out what he's been up to over the years?! -- Being a relatively new member she probably wouldn't even believe it. I think they have one or two children together, don't they? (reply to this comment
From Vicky
Sunday, December 07, 2003, 12:32

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from DarkAngel
Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 08:56

he used to be Phoebe's husband at MWM.
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From jez
Thursday, April 01, 2004, 11:23

I knew him from Peru in 76 where he was a drummer mwm in early 80s where he brought a stream of german girls, luckily I'm a bloke so had no sexual contact with him. Were you at mwm?(reply to this comment
from Yes
Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 20:06

Yes, I know him. Why are you asking?
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From a concerned FGA
Sunday, December 07, 2003, 02:22

Yes, I met him a few times when he came over for fundraising. He's Peruvian, if I remember correctly.(reply to this comment

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