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The Beautiful People | from GoldenMic - April 28, 2004
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Reader's comments on this article Add a new comment on this article |  from GoldenMic
May 4, 2004 - This comment is in the main site
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May 3, 2004 - This comment is in the main site | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |  From Sniff, sniff
Monday, May 03, 2004, 14:40
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Sniff. How touching .... the apologies and all. Group hug, every one!
Now everyone together: 1....2....3.....
My MovingOn site my MovingOn site, I know it's right my MovingOn site.
My MovingOn site my MovingOn site, I need you today.
My MovingOn site my MovingOn site, I know it's right my MovingOn site.
My MovingOn site my MovingOn site, I'll love you always. (reply to this comment) |
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April 30, 2004 - This comment is in the main site | | | | | | | | | | From joe basher
Saturday, May 01, 2004, 18:16
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Kind of ironic coming form a guy who is neither beautiful inside or out.
Joe, if you think your beauty is on the outside....go buy yourself another freaking mirror. If you think your beauty is on the inside, then why don't you shove your head up your ass to try and find it.
Once you have, kindly turn yourself inside out. (reply to this comment) |
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April 30, 2004 - This comment is in the main site | from sarafina
April 30, 2004 - This comment is in the main site | | | | | From sarafina
Friday, April 30, 2004, 22:07
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Ok umm Andy this comment could go either way maybe you could clarify. Did you mean the "absence of any form of intelligence "does not make a hottie? or that you are attracted to "the absence of any form of intelligence"? (Just trying to figure out what roll I should play a foxy intelligent teacher who strips at night for kicks or a dumb blonde who forgot to put on her uniform before work?) ;)
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April 30, 2004 - This comment is in the main site | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | From itsxena2u
Sunday, May 02, 2004, 21:26
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????? Those aren't my words, but then again I'm not the only one to use this computer and I left my password taped to my keyboard. (maybe I should get a new password) I also don't live alone. I'm also not the only one to visit this site and use the computer. Kinda like communal living darling, you know what that is, don't you?
By the way, I'm not worked up. I'd be a fool to take anything that is said on this site serioulsly. Talking about our past can certainly be medicinal emotionaly to some extent. But what I've seen in the short months that I've been visiting this site is that it's pure entertainment!
We bash TF with every bit of anger within us, yet we turn around and viciously atack those who've gone through the same painful experiences as we have just because they choose to see things from a different perspective. Like someone who so wisely commented the other day that TF has nothing to worry about as long as they see us fighting and argueing amongst ourselves. "A city that is divided cannot stand". Does anyone still believe that? Or is it just something we chose to throw out the window along with everything else we were taught in TF? We speak our mind with no regards to people's feelings, we critizise and humiliate others, we're hateful, cynical, offensive, sarcastic and just plain old fashioned rude!
I've been lied to, made fun of, belittled, humiliated and laughed at! But I'm not the only one either. Others have gotten it far worse than I. (oh, but where's my sense of humor, right?) Ok, I get it! Why should I get offended and take things personally when we're just "making a joke", or "being sarcastic"? Right??
I made the mistake of thinking that this was a serious website where we were all mature adults and could talk to each other in a civil manner without using derogatory remarks or insulting a person's inteligence. I had a very different idea of what this website was like, until now. Some of the treads here get so stupid and rediculous that I can't help but laugh! The one and only time I got offended was at Joe H. He made a very hurtful and sarcastic comment to the very first thing I ever posted on this site!! Talk about a warm welcome! I wrote to him personally about it and found out he wasn't trying to be mean. That's just the way he is. It doesn't bother me anymore! I don't care if you're cultinvator's ex, Joe's ex or even MY ex! (that would be the first time I've ever dumped a girl though, that is if you ARE a girl)
There is no way of truly telling if a person is happy, mad or sad. Whether if the person is male or female, 20 or 40, rich or poor, successful or suicidal, gay or straight, thin or fat, naughty or nice and beautiful or ugly based on what they write here. If you know them personally, its a different story.
So there you have it darling! (or should I call you bitch?) Oh well, it doesn't matter to me! It's all the same. They're just words. Oh and by the way, my sin will find me out? You call THAT a sin? Oh baby! I can do much worse!!
Here's my thought on the whole situation:
Nancy amuses me
Joe H entertains me
Exister excites me
Sarafina delights me
Fmrjoyish amazes me
Jules confuses me
and Banal_commentator just baffles me!
If you're any one of the above mentioned then you know how I feel. If not, oh well......... ;-) (reply to this comment) |
| | | | | From GoldenMic
Monday, May 03, 2004, 09:11
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Your e-mail was very good reading, and I was intrigued by your reactions to each writer. Regarding the presense of so much sarcasm and hostility, it seems to me that almost every website I have ever visited is marked by that tone. Maybe its because many of the people who use this medium are really in to words, and what starts off as an attempt to sound witty then degrades into mean-ness. Also, I know that us ex-cultites are particularly insistent upon our right to say what we feel, probably a deeply-held reaction to past censorship and external control, and part of an ongoing demonstration of freedom. In truth, thats a pretty immaure way to assert one's independence, but it just feels so good! Anyway, I think its good to hear about it occasionally, so we can examine our own negativity and remember that our own freedom sometimes hurts others. Thanks for the comment. Mike M. (reply to this comment) |
| | From itsxena2u
Monday, May 03, 2004, 10:57
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Why thank you. Your perception is very accurate. I do sometimes get carried away and let my emotions take charge. I'm not the kind of person that enjoys offending others. But I can get a bit vocal sometimes when irritated. I should probably abstain from commenting for a while. Anyway, I'm glad you're on this site. I think your point of view is very interesting. Take care! (reply to this comment) |
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April 30, 2004 - This comment is in the main site | from Just a girl
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Thursday, April 29, 2004, 20:31
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Joe, you should mind your manners, especially as you are someone who has told us all you like to screw fat girls as soon as you get drunk.
"maybe you should go create it instead of telling me how to behave on this one"
Take your own advice, Joe. This isn't your site, it is all of ours. Stop telling us how to behave on our own website. The Joe Schmoe Show is getting boring. Go build your own site and everyone who actually wants to hear your Simon-Cowell-Wanna-Be act/sleep with you can go there.
Other losers have done it before. http://www.systemite.net/archives/000042.html (reply to this comment) |
| | From GoldenMic
Thursday, April 29, 2004, 19:56
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Sorry, wise Joe, is the sandbox yours because you got here first? Is it too small for anybody but you to "do poo-poo" in it? Should I go run and cry because you are mad at me? Those "fat girls" are people I love, and you're quite the man in your ability to take shots at them from behind your keyboard.
Did you hurt my feelings? Of course you did, isn't that your point? I am sure that there is a long list of people who, when they they write things here, have you tear into them because you can, and then stop writing. What power!
Thanks, wise Joe, your wit and wisdom has really smacked me down. I bet you don't initiate too many articles of your own here, for fear you would get back some of what you dish out. But don't sweat it, man, I have put up with censure and disdain from bigger boys than you, and this sandbox will probably hold both of us. If you DO want to come to mine, its at Yahoo Groups, under ISOTNOT, where you'll be treated with more respect than you ever seem to show here. Mike M. (reply to this comment) |
| | | | | From GoldenMic
Thursday, April 29, 2004, 22:02
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Dear Wise Joe, Why do I just KNOW that you have probably told about a hundred people here, while insulting and attacking them, that you don't care WHAT the rules are here, and that you'll do just as you please? However, now that you're feeling a little heat, you start quoting rules like mad...
Yo' Joe, I'm just joshing you, and I'm sorry of you feel I don't belong here. Coming from such a tiny little cult myself, it really does help me to talk amongst a crowd that is constantly telling a story of pain and survival that feels like my own. While I am in contact with 30-40 exIsots, and making more and more contact with ex-cultites all over the country, this is the ONLY place where I have ever met an actual group of people who were born and raised in a cult so much like my own, then got free. So much pain, and wit, and despair, and strength... it touches me and it invigorates me. In truth, I appreciate you all so much that I barely have the energy to spar with you, Joe, and only do so out of respect for you as a fellow cultite who clearly loves to scrap.
I admit though, that I think some of your colleagues here must be giggling to hear old Joe whining about the rules and asking other people to respect them. Why do I think this puts you in an odd position here? Well, I may be an outsider and a lover of fat women (I am down to a very healthy-feeling 195 nowadays, by the way), but I have clearly done you a solid, allowing YOU to defend your website against interlopers. Take care, Mike M. (reply to this comment) |
| | From Joe H
Friday, April 30, 2004, 10:30
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Touche, Michael. To be honest, I had a moment's indecision about resorting to the "Well, you don't belong here" retort. It was cheap and lame. You are welcome here, and about the fat girls, I've slept with plenty, and I don't regret it. There's nothing wrong with a moderately voluptous woman (though I'm currently in a thin girls phase).
(I'm at 185, btw. Heheh) (reply to this comment) |
| | | | | From Nancy
Friday, April 30, 2004, 06:43
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I don't want to get sucked into this vortex of a trite thread, but I have to agree that we have enough cantankerous folks here who like to argue about inane stuff without inviting every Michael, Josiah and Noah from other cults to slather their banter around, as well. I reject that all cults are created equal. I reject that experience in one gives one extensive knowledge for which to speak about another. I believe the COG is an animal like no other, and without getting into a 'my cult is worse than yours' spat, without experience in the COG, one could not ever really gain a full perspective on life in the COG, at least not to the extent to argue minuet detail with someone raised in it.
Besides, discussions have gone so far south lately that they have begun to bore. Between hearing the wailing of Joe’s purported ex’s and now the speculation on why some outsider thinks there is a disproportionate number of ‘beautiful people’ in the COG or cults in general, who knows, I find myself longing for debate on white sneakers. I mean really! Even JW gives better debate than this. Where are our resident curmudgeons when you need one? It’s about time Zerb dreamed up some new revelation for us psychoanalyze and to pick apart delusional detail by delusional detail before we all lapse into the dreaded state of boredom. I guess the beautiful weather is drawing the seasoned litigators outdoors and away from their computers, leaving us a rash of ‘this site sucks’ articles and other Beavis and Butthead quality rantings.
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| | | | | From Nancy
Friday, April 30, 2004, 10:04
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Also, I noticed your boy Mic wasn't too sparing with the insults, either. And cultish? What I find strange is that I and two others in my office rated your comment above and the ratings dissappeared. I've seen this twice before. Strange! Hell, I guess it was about time this site went the way of other wacked out ex-cult sites. (reply to this comment) |
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | From Nancy
Friday, April 30, 2004, 09:20
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What in the world? It sounds to me that you must be nursing some wound from a previous discussion because your comment doesn't seem to have much to with my comment or the trite discussion it was addressed at. Neither, did I make any reference to this guy's education. I never said he wasn't welcome. It's a free country. I did say we have enough cantakerous people here, though.
What's with your question about how many people I know in other cults or what they experienced? I know of a lot of the experiences of those raised in ISKON and the basis of their claims in the law suit which was brought on their behalf, but that has nothing to do with the price of tea in China. I also never said he wasn't "one of us". I don't really consider there to be an "us" to use your words. But, I still maintain that unless you grew up in the COG, you can never fully grasp the weight of the experience. It is a cult like no other. Still, that wasn't my point. My point was that it was a meaningless thread. There is no link between physical appearance and psychological factors. The entire notion leads to some disturbing and dangerous conclusions if taken too far.
On the main point, though, I have previously never entirely disagreed with you and never so much as been offended by you. But, this is a first. My comment was far from anything Joe has said. I wasn't entering into the discussion or siding with him. I was making an observation about the whole discussion. I obviously was wrong about my freedom to do so without your lumping my one comment together with multiple threads of discussion on Joe's part and offering up apology on his behalf. Further, your trolls comment is beyond the pale and offensive. It lowers you to a level you are purporting to reject.
I've always given weight to everything you say, more so than most others here because I consider the source. I have rarely disagreed with you, and even then only in part, not entirety. But, lately, I've seen you go into the trenches and take some cheap shots. You went to a personal level with the people arguing with your sister. You did it in the discussion Lauren had several months ago when you entered into it on her side. You did it with JP Magero, and you're doing it here. Maybe, I had an inflated image of you. Maybe, I held you to a standard that, in my mind, I did not hold everyone else. Maybe, that was unfair. Yet, I was motivated out of respect for you.
With this comment, thoug, I have to say, that has changed. I think the whole site has been going to hell in a hand bag. I don't think it's because of just some random comments from Joe, though. Before him, there was Magic Green Pants, whose comments were far, far worse. I don't know what it is, but now, I really don't give a damn. There's some screwed up things in the world, and at some point, after the idealism wears off, you realize that it doesn't really matter because it doesn't effect you. It makes for a selfish world, but at least you don't have to deal with the crap. (reply to this comment) |
| | From Jerseygirl
Friday, April 30, 2004, 09:34
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I agree with that last part of Nancy's comment. People are becoming altogether WAY too sensitive! If someone is being an ass well let him/her bury his/her self. It just seems a little too silly and teenish to be getting all up in arms about what someone might be saying on this site that is probably because they are drunk, tired, having a bad day, feeling rude, or maybe all of the above. I think that unless you have a good reason to defend someone (even if they are family) it should be left alone. I mean WTF? Are we now going to move into a "shepherding the comments" phase? Oh hell, whatever people. (reply to this comment) |
| | | | | From Nancy
Friday, April 30, 2004, 17:53
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Uh, you jumped neck deep in it with your comment, Jules. I have to say my opinion of you bottomed out today. Your comment was hypocritical and just plain incorrect. You do exactly that for which you accuse others, and there's even more going on with regards to moving people's comments and erasing ratings. It's not called "coddling". It's called sour grapes on your part. Further, if you want to start not playing by the rules and insulting me, calling me and others "trolls", and insulting my hard earned education, then you shouldn't mind the same treatment. In fact, I won't mischaracterize or outright lie and insult you. There's plenty to which to draw people's attention in your actions and past while I was busy getting that education you're knocking. But, I'm sure you were studying other cult victims while you were at it which makes you an expert.
Oh, and one last note before I leave you permanently to your brilliantly skewed website. Your little buddy Mic would have to have five degrees of higher education to have more than Joe and me. I have three and Joe has one, so together we have four. I highly doubt someone who makes such ignorant and stereotypical, overgeneralized comparisions such as Mic has one degree from a top tier university. That would also be 13 years of higher education, as it took four for my bachelors, three for my Juris Doctor, two for my masters and four for Joe's bachelor. You brought it up, so just wanted to draw attention to it, since I'm sick of "turning the other cheek" as well, especially when provoked.
So, there are purported "rules" to the website now? You should add that they don't apply to you when someone disagrees with one of your buddies or family with a poor grasp of the English language. (reply to this comment) |
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Friday, April 30, 2004, 09:39
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Nancy,
If you are talking to me, I am not "Joe's ex" and I ask if you would keep your false asumptions to yourself, rather then shame my good name. I don't know why you would even think I am. Also, IF I was "Joe's ex" how would that explain my supposed agression toward you in the chatroom? And what does this comment from you have to do with this article?..........burning, banal questions.
To clarify, I was not being agressive toward you in the chatroom, I was merely commenting on your perpetual anger.
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April 29, 2004 - This comment is in the main site | | | | | | | | | | | | From Joe H
Thursday, April 29, 2004, 13:03
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Nick is probably my least favorite guy on this website (after 1984, of course), but I find your attempt to insult him to be quite pathetic. Obviously, your use of the tired "You're not so hot yourself, nyehhh!" cliche stands out, but since I'm the Grammar Nazi, I'm going to focus on one word: "Fortunately." How is it fortunate for a woman with beauty and brains to waste her time with Nick and then dump him? It's not fortunate for Nick, if he gets his heart broken, and it's not fortunate for the girl whose time was wasted, unless maybe they had really good sex, but if that was the case, then why did she dump him and say "WTF am I doing with this guy?"?
Then, you close by clarifying that you are not Nick's ex-wife. Well, thanks for clearing that up, cause a lot of us were wondering why Nick would be married to Nick The Prick! (reply to this comment) |
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