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from jayman - Thursday, May 19, 2005
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Looking for ex-members from the 70's!

I was a member of the c.o.g. in 1974 and 75'. I was in Mobile Al and Birmingham. Also spent some time in New Orleans. My name was Joshua.I'm looking for anyone who might have also been there at that time or know's someone who was. I only know the "family" names of the people who were there. Joseph laughs-a-lot, Joppa, Hezekiah, Jakken, Reuben, Hannaniah (severely handicapped) Lazarus, Kadesh and Willow, Bethany Brook. These are some of the ones I remember.When I left the colony to visit my home in Cincinnati I never returned. I left what little that I owned in New Orleans. These are things that would have no value to anyone other than myself. Prom pictures, photos of my parents, hight school diploma, personal items. I am really trying to find out if any of the items I left in New Orleans were discarded when I didn't return or if someone may still have them to this day. I know this is a longshot since anyone who "backslid" then was considered an enemy of the c.o.g. and it was over 30 years ago. My brother was also in the c.o.g. and that is how I became a member. His name in the c.o.g. was Zerahuiah and his wife was Priscilla. If anyone has any info please e:mail me throught the directory under the nickname Jman.





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from jayman
Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 08:15

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I see that 189 people read my article from May of 2005 "looking for old members". My nickname was incorrect on the article, it is Jayman. Hopefully someone out there remembers some of these people and responds to jman.


thanks

jeff
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From prima
Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 01:45

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it's a good while later but are you still looking for info? my parents were Willow and Kadesh. i wrote you an email. contact me if you still have questions.(reply to this comment
From jayman
Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 16:06

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Wow! are you Noah? Were you in Mobile Al. colony? I thought Kadesh and Willow had three boys, or was it two? I did not get your e:mail. Do you have my address? I would like to correspond.

Jeff (reply to this comment

From My paranoia keeps me safe
Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 22:18

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Aaah creepy male FGA approaching female SGA. "I would like to correspond" he says. Riiiiinnngggg, Alert, Alert, Alert!!(reply to this comment
From jayman
Thursday, February 01, 2007, 18:46

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You are paranoid, "correspond" means to communicate via e:mail. (reply to this comment
From AnnaH
Thursday, February 01, 2007, 19:45

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That's interesting. I could have sworn we were using that word long before the internet was invented. (reply to this comment
From Ne Oublie
Friday, February 02, 2007, 01:03

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Jayman was wrong to link it directly to email, but he is right that correspondence typically describes a form of communication which is not face-to-face (mail, email, etc).(reply to this comment
From Paranoid Humanoid
Friday, February 02, 2007, 01:52

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While it may seem paranoid to a common "systemite", it makes perfect sense to me. I don't want any FGA corresponding with anyone I know in any form whatsover, unless it's to turn themselves in and beg forgiveness. FGA's are people that chose to join TF, saw what went on, and either turned a blind eye, or participated in the abuse. The ones that have left have been incredibly mum about what happened, often excusing themselves as having "been young, and made some mistakes".

Many active pedofiles and abusers search their prey over the internet, posing as a nice harmless chat mate. It's so easy to pose as a nice person over the internet. After a while they'll want to establish face to face contact, sometimes without your consent.

Most SGAs here have a friend or two on the site who can vouch for them. When unknown FGAs come out of the woodwork after decades, and want to contact SGAs it bothers me. (reply to this comment
From jayman
Saturday, February 03, 2007, 16:45

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What the..? Oh, I get it. You have it all figured out. Because I was in the C.O.G. (not the Family, there is a difference) for 6 months, 30 years ago, I'm a pedophile, turned a blind eye to sexual abuse and should beg forgiveness. Did I miss anything? That makes perfect sense. Based on that logic, all germans hate jews, all blonds are dumb etc, etc, etc...Well, guess what, you're wrong. With the limited amount of intellect you have displayed by your comments you have shown you don't know what you are talking about. There were actually some good people in the c.o.g., believe it or not. Some people even joined with good intentions (spread the gospel, forsake all). Trying to get in touch with old friends, people that went through a lot of the same things you experienced (no food, going to jail for litnessing) is not abnormal. It's human. You know, like...are they still alive, how have they "moved on", what are they doing now after all these years. This is not an endorsement of the c.o.g. I left when "flirty little fishes" came out. Although I never witnessed any of things you are talking about, flf showed that Mo was getting warped. I was in 3 different colonies. To assume that I "saw what went on" and turned a blind eye because I was a first generationer is narrowminded and ignorant. "Many active pedophiles search their prey over the internet". Boy, that was a revelation. No kidding. Thanks for implying that's what I am. Oh, yes, you are paranoid, and "systemite", please, think of something original. Ditto P. Chee. (reply to this comment
From an apostate
Monday, February 05, 2007, 07:28

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If you feel that this comment is anyway harsh, try and imagine how I really feel! This is me trying to keep it polite and civil.

The COG changed its name to The Family International to avoid unwanted negative publicity and potential law suits. While it’s admirable that you left the COG when you noticed the prevailing lunacy of fearless leader Berg’s increasingly idiotic, perverted rants, the claim of TF and the COG being different entities are unfounded and unwarranted, especially from someone who never experienced life in TF. Your perceptions of TF are based on hearsay, word of mouth, and relayed stories, experiences, etc. I find it to be an absurd estimation on your part, especially as you have admitted to leaving the COG over 30 years ago.

While I do believe that many of the original members of the COG thought that they were joining an iconoclastic, world altering organization when they originally joined, it had to have been clear that the group had other alternatives after only a short period of time, as you yourself are a testament to. However, the vast majority of those who joined when you did allowed the dementia and perversions of a sick, deranged pedophile to dictate their actions and behavior for the next 20-30 years of their lives and beyond. This fact cannot be ignored, nor the one that follows; the lives of hundreds and thousands of children were negatively altered forever by the choices of these ‘good intentioned’ individuals once they continued to remain in the confines of the COG and eventual Family structures.

As a result of those above stated facts, you have to understand the doubt, mistrust, resentment, hatred, bitterness, anger, etc., towards those of your generation and era. Being that there is no way any one on here could have assumed that you had only been in for 6 months 30 years ago and are now looking to find old friends (personally, I find it difficult to believe that you could have made so many close friends after only six months, especially because had you left when you claim you did, you would have been ostracized and blacklisted as per the general M.O. of life in the COG back then) you have to be able to accept the fact that many of us who were born into this environment of abuse and torture will assume that you are a pedophilic creep before we assume that you are a good natured ‘old-timer’ looking for old buddies who you shared a prison shag…er, cell with.

And if you really, truly are that nostalgic for old times, go ask Dunkin Donuts for some old doughnuts next time you’re there, and then sleep on the floor of your apartment or home in your sleeping back with the heat off and the window open, or commit an infraction of the law and go spend a weekend in county! Either way, you are more unwelcome on this site than you probably realize so for all our sake’s, kindly fuck off!
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From OoOoO
Monday, February 05, 2007, 00:47

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Difference between COG and TF? What difference?(reply to this comment
From Oddman
Saturday, February 03, 2007, 21:52

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So here I am as always, offering an opinion on everything without being asked. I just like to be helpful, like Lucy Van Pelt.

Sweet paranoia. Is it a bad thing? Having lived in Africa alone for two years, I don't think so. Through mistakes, both mine and those of others, I learned to be paranoid. After a while, you form little boxes for people and situations. If you see a man wearing a coat, you cross the road. If there's a broken truck blocking the road, you make a turn. You never ever help someone whose got car problems. You don't use porters. You never leave the flat when the help is there. You carry two wallets. You weld a safe in your car. You have at least three different routes home. You have a signal you use when you approach your gate. You make sure the gate is open before you get there. You don't slow down either. You always carry a weapon. And you never use a taxi driver unless you know where he lives. If someone with a Nigerian or Ugandan, or Angolan accent wants to discuss business, you assume it's a fraud. You open your window enough to jump out of, before letting clients in your office. You have one hand on the switch under your desk. You don't ride full roof taxi-buses, and on the open ones, you sit next to the exit.

Oh, but that's racist, that's discrimination, stereotypes, narrowminded. Is it? I think not. It's being alert. Being prepared. Being "on guard" as FGAs might say. Sometimes you need to put people and situations in a box. Sure, many people are nice and wonderful. It's a select few that give the others a bad name. But you can always take the good ones out of the box later. You can't afford to wait and think of a reaction when you've got people firing Kalashnikov assault rifle rounds at your car. Maybe you aren't a sick pervert, and maybe you are. How the hell would we know? I think most of us would rather be safe than sorry.

Discrimination is refusing to consider taking someone out of your little box, no matter what. First placing them there isn't ignorant or narrowminded, it's just being smart, street savvy.


Besides, you knew the girl's parents not her. If you'd asked her to pass on your contact info to her parents, instead of eagerly suggesting she should correspond with you, then you might not have come across as a somewhat pervy FGA. (reply to this comment
From rainy
Saturday, February 03, 2007, 18:08

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there are about three great websites for doing exactly that, TSC old buddies reunions etc. This just doesn't happen to be one of them. Check the homepage of this site for links.(reply to this comment
From MovingOn Admin
Saturday, February 03, 2007, 16:57

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Jayman, as I'm sure you're aware, this Website is for those who were born and raised in The Family, not those who chose to join it.

As such, you are not exactly welcome here. Please be respectful of the fact that this is our space.

Thank you. (reply to this comment

From jayman
Saturday, February 03, 2007, 20:46

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sorry..bye!(reply to this comment
From P. Chee
Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 18:32

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Just lovely, a hippie-dippie first generationer with his "Wow" and his inability to read (Noah??????).

And picking on a poor innocent girl who got to live the last 19 years in the system without the protection of knowing the CREEPS joiner culties could be!!

Be careful, prima...(reply to this comment

From jayman
Thursday, February 01, 2007, 18:48

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what are you smokin? (reply to this comment
from jayman
Friday, May 20, 2005 - 20:00

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My nickname has been changed to Jayman in the web site user directory. thanks!
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