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Cedar Joy

from CedarJoyTallBlackGirlie - Monday, July 19, 2004
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To anyone who may remember me:

I'd like contact with some of my old buddies. My name was Cedar, Joy, Jade, Midnight, and a few others. I am tall, black and never really fit in. I had a lot of friends, tho, and would love to talk to some of them again.

My email is midnightrejoicing@yahoo.com



--Midnight

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from Joe H
Wednesday, July 21, 2004 - 18:59

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Your name was Midnight? Isn't that a racial slur?
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Thursday, July 22, 2004, 21:50

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Is there enough oil in your lamp to see the point?(reply to this comment
From CedarJoy
Thursday, July 22, 2004, 15:47

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Actually, my given birth name is Midnight Rejoicing. And while in the Family, I changed it to Cedar, after a good friend that I admired, who was named Cedar--a beautiful ethereal-looking woman and an excellent mother. I mention my race simply because there were quite a few Cedars around, and I knew there would be instant recognition if I mention that I am black. (and a HOT one at that). I take no offense to any racial insinuations, as a matter of fact, I'll be the first to laugh at the jokes because I'm good like that.

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From Shackled
Thursday, July 22, 2004, 18:33

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I do apologize for placing it here. I intended no offense at all. I just thought it was funny and so obviously untrue that no one would be offended. Perhaps I'm to familiar with my black friends. It's like a black man can call another black man a niger but a white man can't. I've gotten close to some blacks and joke around with them as if I was black. I'm glad you aren't offended and had a laugh.(reply to this comment
From Shackled
Wednesday, July 21, 2004, 23:07

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(No offense intended to African Americans.)

Give way to the black man.

http://fr.freefoto.com/preview.jsp?id=21-05-55

http://fr.freefoto.com/preview.jsp?id=21-05-55

http://fr.freefoto.com/preview.jsp?id=21-82-79

In this next one they tell us to watch out for a black man crossing the road. And then they rub it in by making it a state law.

http://fr.freefoto.com/preview.jsp?id=21-82-66

We may be white but we're not superman. We also want to work in a safe environment

http://fr.freefoto.com/preview.jsp?id=21-86-84

They can't go straight?

http://fr.freefoto.com/preview.jsp?id=21-86-75

Why do only African Americans receive special treatment. Look at the school area, elderly, handicapped, bicyclist and pedestrian walk signs.

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From Shackled
Thursday, July 22, 2004, 18:27

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It would appear that Cedar/Joy has seen my comment, she posted a comment after me, and wasn't offended. Alot of people joke about my race and many jokes may not be politically correct but who says jokes have to be. Maybe the blondes can all start getting offended, after all, they're even made fun of in movies. What I'm sayingis, all of you who aren't African American and found it offensive can continue to give me thumbs down, throw it in the trailer and say whatever shit you want and it won't matter. (reply to this comment

From Bella
Friday, July 23, 2004, 12:55

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Racial jokes and blonde jokes are hardly comparable. Furthermore, Cedar Joy may not have been offended by your jokes, but some of us were -- black or not. Just a word of caution should you ever move to the States, racial jokes don't fly over here like they do in Japan. Yes, I used to live there (and may even know you) so I know first hand how racist that country can be.(reply to this comment

From Shackled
Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 21:21

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I've lived in the States and do just fine but thanks for your concern. As I already stated, I was refering to this thread. (reply to this comment
From banal_commentator
Friday, July 23, 2004, 06:44

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Oh, so what you're saying Shackled is that only black people (or the group being targeted) should be offended by racial slurs?(reply to this comment
From Shackled
Friday, July 23, 2004, 08:01

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I was refering to this thread.(reply to this comment
From banal_commentator
Friday, July 23, 2004, 08:03

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What was your name in the cult? (reply to this comment
From Shackled
Friday, July 23, 2004, 08:11

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I don't have it in my profile for a reason and would rather only have close friends know. What's was yours?(reply to this comment
From banal_commentator
Friday, July 23, 2004, 08:17

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I'm just wondering if i might know you, is all. (reply to this comment
From Shackled
Friday, July 23, 2004, 08:23

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You were in Japan?(reply to this comment
From CedarJoy
Thursday, July 22, 2004, 19:15

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..and now, back to the reason I originally posted the article. I'd like contact with my old friends. We went through a lot of hard times together in the Family, but we stood by each other. We have now gone through some or all of the stages of leaving behind all that we knew-and all whom we knew-to face life 'out here'. We've fought our separate battles, and I am sure that whoever may contact me again is a completely different person than I may remember. As am I.

The last five years have been difficult, but thankfully I have done a great job of keeping my head on my shoulders and staying sane and grounded even when, at times, I felt like the only one on earth that had seen the things I have seen or felt, even remotely, the way that I have felt. I'm so glad for my 'true' family--the ones that have stuck by me. I have never regretted leaving the Family-not ONE IOTA-it was truly the best decision that I have every made, I only wish I had done it sooner.

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From phoenix27
Friday, January 28, 2005, 12:57

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Hi Cedar....was in Chicago....big old house near 49th street....one of the only half asian girls there.....would love to hear from you....andisplace2003@yahoo.com (reply to this comment
From Wolf
Thursday, July 22, 2004, 11:05

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This would be funny if posted elsewhere. I don't get why you chose to post it here though.(reply to this comment
From Joe H
Thursday, July 22, 2004, 12:19

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I don't think it's very funny at all. It might merit a chuckle during a boring drive when one of your friends pointed it out briefly, but it doesn't work as a extended joke that I suspect has been forwarded to Shackled. If the situation were reversed (i.e. Signs showed white figures on a dark background) and a black comedian was lamenting the inherent racism thereof in a hyperbolic way, then it might warrant a minute or two as part of a stand-up bit. As presented and in the current context, I find it insipid and sad. (reply to this comment
From itsxena2u
Thursday, July 22, 2004, 10:50

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You know, I think this comment was inappropriate. I think Cedar Joy wrote this article to try and find some long lost friends not to be ridiculed and made fun of. The fact that she mentioned she was black was so we could know who she was, because I'm sure the name Cedar or Joy was very common in TF. I highly doubt she brought it up so we could make racial jokes. It was bad enough growing up in a cult where there were so few black people and having to be constantly indoctrinated with Berg's racism and prejudice. My sister is black and she is one of the sweetest, kindest and most considerate person I know. Not to mention VERY well educated.(reply to this comment
From Shackled
Thursday, July 22, 2004, 18:08

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I concede that I placed my comment in the wrong place. I saw JoeH's comment about midnight being a racial slur and it reminded me of this - It was not forwarded to me. However, when have the comments always been related to the article? And this was just a joke not a racial comment. I'm not racist and have many good African American friends. If they were to read this they would've laughed with me. It's funny how someone that is always claiming that her comments are misunderstood will so readily misunderstand someone else. It was just a joke and if Cedar/Joy or any other African American on this sight is offended then I will apologize. I will apologize because they were offended, not because you say this comment is racist. (reply to this comment

From frmrjoyish
Thursday, July 22, 2004, 10:29

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Yikes, Shackled! As much as I deplore walking on politically correct eggshells, this comment is a step or two over the line!(reply to this comment
From banal_commentator
Thursday, July 22, 2004, 08:26

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What a stupid post Shackled. Why are you posting it under here? I give you a thumbs down!!! (reply to this comment
From Bella
Thursday, July 22, 2004, 09:34

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I totally agree with banal_commentator ... (reply to this comment
From Jerseygirl
Thursday, July 22, 2004, 10:11

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I totally agree with Bella.(reply to this comment
From Joe H
Thursday, July 22, 2004, 11:40

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I totally agree with Jerseygirl, Bella, and Banal_commentator! (on this issue, not on everything)(reply to this comment
From banal_commentator
Friday, July 23, 2004, 06:41

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Look at JoeH trying to jump on my little band-wagon, when his comment about cedar's nickname was just as banal as Shackled's.

Shackled, I don't think that you were being "racist" by posting that, i am sure you meant it in good fun; however, the reason why i think it was so stupid was because this article was about someone trying to get in touch with old friends and just becuase this person was black this was the first thing that came to your mind! (reply to this comment

From Shackled
Friday, July 23, 2004, 08:07

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I already explained that it wasn't because she was black but because of another comment I read. I also conceded that placing it in her article was a mistake. I should've respected that but I also didn't think it would cause a controversy. I'd rather not continue discussing this and I apologize a final time for not respectin her wishes. (reply to this comment
From Shackled
Thursday, July 22, 2004, 18:19

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I agree with all of you that say I posted it in the wrong place. But my comment is not insipid, sad, racist or banal. Just amongst the wrong crowd. If you want to find it racist I'm sure anyone could but if you want a laugh, like everyone else I know, you will. (reply to this comment
From LOL
Thursday, July 22, 2004, 23:44

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Well Shackled, it seems you've inspired great unity on this web site. ;-)(reply to this comment
from Jerseygirl
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 - 12:42

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You mentioned that in the cult you were tall, black and never fit in. You forgot to say all the other things you were: kind, loyal, witty, and most of all I thot you were BEAUTIFUL!!! Love from one of your faithful fans, the "even your eyelashes are self-righteous" girl.
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From CedarJoyTallBlackGirlie
Wednesday, July 21, 2004, 18:43

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Ok, Jersey, enough. You've got me all up in a heap. Remind me.. I remember the 'self-righteous eyelashes' comment, but having a hard time pinning it down. It's been so long, too long. Is it 'V' from 'YA' Camp..(Geesh those terms are so behind me and yet bring such vivid, fresh, raw memories:-) Hope to talk to you soon.

--Midnight

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