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from itsxena2u Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 11:59 (Agree/Disagree?) Hmm... Lets see. Could you be a little more specific? I have heard of a Patrick Swayze and Nick Nolte. I think they live in Hollywood somewhere. But I'm not sure if they are the ones you are referring to. :-) (reply to this comment)

from sarafina Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 09:28 (Agree/Disagree?) Yes Jez, I know. I'll talk w/ you about them later. =) (reply to this comment)

From yeah uhuh Thursday, April 15, 2004, 12:54 (Agree/Disagree?) Damn, Mr. Jez must've been out of touch for a long time to refer to them as that -- yeah I guess the Philipines. Patrick was married to Sharon, who is now married to Grant (which since you've been on the moon for the past 30 years, used 2B called Gary/Hosanna/Paul Papers), had 3 kids, and has been a drug dealer since he left. He's now in the hospital due to his trade and will likely never have use of his arm again. He apparently had a kid with someone else on this site. BTW, the hospital info is first-hand, but we heard so many stories about you in the how-god-judges-backsliders stories of you being a drug dealer/gang leader/gigolo in the Philipines (it varried) and last I'd heard, "Dicon was killed by a drug dealer". I was quite surprised to find out U were still alive, so when will U tell us what happened? (reply to this comment)

From jez Monday, April 19, 2004, 06:54 (Agree/Disagree?) I haven't in fact been on the moon, but in the real world since 1986. All of the above was a load of rubbish invented by TF to scare others, particularly my siblings, from leaving as well. I don't know who you are, so don't feel compelled to 'pour out to you'. (reply to this comment)

From I Hear You Monday, April 19, 2004, 07:23 (Agree/Disagree?) Heh Jez, I have had people do the same thing to me "I heard all kinds of things about you, so tell me *your* side of the story" like somebody else's lying about me makes *me* owe somebody an explanation. I've also gotten "is it true what they used to say about you?" and I didn't even know what story they had heard so how the heck do they want me to refute it. I have also seen it happen to a friend of mine who like me left in the days when it was rare for SGs to leave. TF totally twisted things and came up with a story that they thought would make us look bad to influenced people still in the group. Usually the kind of story that to an outsider would raise big red flags of "well what kind of position did you have that kid in anyway if they actually did have to go do what you're claiming." Unfortunately, I have recently even told a bit of what my story of being fresh out of the group to somebody 5 years younger than me, and I got a strange reaction of disbelief and questioning from a person it was otherwise nice to chat with. They kept coming back with "well, when *I* left it was like this or that" and I'm thinking "I wish!" it had been like that for me too. But ironically I have usually gotten much more understanding from people who were never in than from this SG exer who, because it wasn't as dangerous by the time they left, insinuated I must be a little off my rocker. Go figure.(reply to this comment)

From sarafina Thursday, April 15, 2004, 13:17 (Agree/Disagree?) Umm first off Allen is not in the hospital any more and has been out for sometime. His arm also is fine now. Maybe it would have been better to have emailed or called with peoples personal info like that. It's not really necessary to advertise it on a public website. I think Jez wanted to know if how to reach them or where they are now not a rundown on their personal history since he's been gone It be best to let him get it first hand from the induviduals themselves don't you think? I know if it were me I'd like to be the one saying where I've been or what I've done to someoen I haven't seen in yrs. NOt have it plaster over the web with old news and half stories.(reply to this comment)

From Cleppo Thursday, April 15, 2004, 17:14 (Agree/Disagree?) Well now you know who he had the baby with.... I'M KIDDING.(reply to this comment)

From sarafina Thursday, April 15, 2004, 18:02 (Agree/Disagree?) HA ha..Well It wasn't me. But I know who with but it's all really none of our business is it?.(reply to this comment)

from banal_commentator Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 07:47 (Agree/Disagree?) People on this site really need to be more specific when they are trying to find someone. (reply to this comment)