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Getting Support : Speaking Out
Dear Knight | from Wolf - Friday, October 07, 2005
accessed 2233 times In response to a myconclusion article posted at this link: http://www.myconclusion.com/archives/2005/01/31/knight-speaks-out/#more-332 Dear Knight,
In your article on myconclusion.com you wrote: "I want to face our opposition face-to-face."
I am very much opposed to the Family, and I would be happy to meet you. Please contact me through my profile to arrange a meeting. I would like to talk about the woman you impregnated and then abandoned in Russia. Does your "awesome girlfriend" know about her? Do you send her child support?
Sincerely,
Wolf (not wearing sheep's clothing) |
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Reader's comments on this article Add a new comment on this article |  from Phoenixkidd
Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 16:38
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Hey Knight, if you ever check this site, or any of your peers do, I suggest you take a deep look at what your doing, I used to know you back in Tustin, I think your family are very nice people---But man! It's never to late to just up and go, you've got plenty of survival skills, just don't be chicken enough to stay in that cult just cuz you were born in it. Face it man, the one's that leave are going to be taking care of their siblings and parents later on, then who's gonna get the credit for doing something useful with their lives? Email me sometime through this site, love to catch up. Oh by the way I met, Josh, used to go by Mark (Redhead) who used to be in Tustin too. He's doin great!
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| from tuneman7
Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 22:57
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Sorry guys,
Something went wrong. In any case, Knight anytime. Tired.
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| from tuneman7
Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 22:56
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Knight,
Contact me through this site and I'll take you up on the face-to-face issue at any time, any plance, any venue any forum to have a discussion of the issues.
I doubt that you'll be able
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| from tuneman7
Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 22:56
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Knight,
Contact me through this site and I'll take you up on the face-to-face issue at any time, any plance, any venue any forum to have a discussion of the issues.
I doubt that you'll be
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| from tuneman7
Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 22:56
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Knight,
Contact me through this site and I'll take you up on the face-to-face issue at any time, any plance, any venue any forum to have a discussion of the issues.
I doubt that you'll
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| from tuneman7
Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 22:56
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Knight,
Contact me through this site and I'll take you up on the face-to-face issue at any time, any plance, any venue any forum to have a discussion of the issues.
I doubt that
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| from tuneman7
Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 22:56
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Knight,
Contact me through this site and I'll take you up on the face-to-face issue at any time, any plance, any venue any forum to have a discussion of the issues.
I doubt
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| from tuneman7
Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 22:56
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Knight,
Contact me through this site and I'll take you up on the face-to-face issue at any time, any plance, any venue any forum to have a discussion of the issues.
I
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| from tuneman7
Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 22:56
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Knight,
Contact me through this site and I'll take you up on the face-to-face issue at any time, any plance, any venue any forum to have a discussion of the issues.
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| from tuneman7
Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 22:56
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Knight,
Contact me through this site and I'll take you up on the face-to-face issue at any time, any plance, any venue any forum to have a discussion of the issues.
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| from tuneman7
Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 22:56
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Knight,
Contact me through this site and I'll take you up on the face-to-face issue at any time, any plance, any venue any forum to have a discussion of the issues.
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| from tuneman7
Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 22:56
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Knight,
Contact me through this site and I'll take you up on the face-to-face issue at any time, any plance, any venue any forum to have a discussion of the issues.
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| from tuneman7
Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 22:56
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Knight,
Contact me through this site and I'll take you up on the face-to-face issue at any time, any plance, any venue any forum to have a discussion of the issues.
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| from a girl
Saturday, October 08, 2005 - 19:45
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In Knight’s own words he is “working behind the scenes,” and he is also “willing to use every viable legal means at (my) disposal.”
How does he propose to do that if he lives in hiding and won’t even tell his immediate family where he lives? My sister lives in “WS” (or “behind the scenes”) and I don’t have a clue where she lives. Any organization that has to hide HAS something to hide!
I am a “mainstream” former member, and as such I am opposed to a cult whose pedophile leader not only sexually abused young girls but who published perverted teachings that incited others to do the same!!
Knight, I am more than willing to take you up on your offer to "face (your) opposition face-to-face." If you ever crawl out of your hole of secrecy, feel free to contact me through my profile.
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| | | | from Lance
Saturday, October 08, 2005 - 01:40
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From reading this guys delusion, I have no doubt that if there ever were a cyanide cool-aid party in the cult, Knight would be the first in line for a drink. I mean did you get a load of this guys diction? it's equally as hysterical as it is pathetic!
I beg the question here: Is he writing an open-ended letter or a speech about world domination?
It seems to me from personal experience that the level of anger in these letters is appropriate to the level of denial. I'd say Knight is right up there in the nines and tens as far as being in a complete state of denial; trying to convince himself that he believes his own nonsense.
Come on Knight! You're 29 and you sure as fucking hell know better.
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| from Howl!
Friday, October 07, 2005 - 21:13
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Mad props Wolf, KGFS! (LOL)
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Friday, October 07, 2005 - 19:02
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Happy Birthday, if the MovingOn banner is right :-)
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| | | | | | |  From Extremist
Saturday, October 08, 2005, 18:09
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I agree, these are empty words, we are well prepared for bloodshed and lack only the intel to make hamburger meat of these fools.
They attack this website, which is nothing more than a forum of free speech, proving once again that TFI is a sworn enemy of the truth.
By undermining our pain, they hurt us all over again. The breath in their lungs insults our existence.
We had hoped that we could spare the Second Generation, but these words (although a product of mind control) are a declaration of war on both generations. None will be spared.(reply to this comment) |
| | | | | From Extremist
Sunday, October 09, 2005, 02:18
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Do not mock me JohnnieWalker, although I am quite fond of your black label scotch, I will not tolerate such an insolence.
The Aforementioned Bible-Thumping shit-heads have offended me and mine, so much so that a challenge of violence is called for. We will not be satisfied until blood is spilt. Be it mine in failure of quest, or theirs in my success, this offence shall not go unpunished.
Count thyself not among the ranks of the pacifists, who bear bruises upon their arses but respond with nothing but cleverly phrased neutral indifferent banter, thinking in some way you have dealt some democratic blow to the Closed Minded.
If these logical arguments had any effect on TFI, the organization would have disbanded long ago (save for a few total idiots). The power of mind control is far too strong. Friendly debate as well as legal recourse have both failed miserably, violence is the only way.
It is quite sad that I am considered looney, for not a century ago you would have fallen in rank behind me and gone to blows for such a worthy cause.
A pox upon you, who chose to be victims, rather than heroes. For your name, your God, and your Self.(reply to this comment) |
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | From Benz
Sunday, October 09, 2005, 14:20
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I agree with you JW, "violence against another human being is a crime" (unless Bush/Blair sanctify it).
We do not have the right to take the law into our own hands. If we resort to violence actions to revenge what has been done to us in the past then we are falling into the trap TF has laid for us.
That being said IF one was to witness an act of "violence against another human being" (ie: rape, assault), and whilst it was taking place attempt to stop it by violent force, I ask you, would "violence against another human (in this case against the perpetrator of a crime) be a crime?". - In other words if I defend someone by violence, from a violent crime being commited against them, is it a criminal act on my part to have used violence to defend someone (ie: a child)?(reply to this comment) |
| | | | | | | | | | | From JohnnieWalker
Monday, October 10, 2005, 17:40
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Yes. But only if the person intervening is an eyewitness to the abuse, intervenes while the abuse is taking place and the abuse being committed merits the measure of violence used to intervene.
For example, if I walked into a room and saw a man spanking a child's bare bottom with headphone wires (I've been spanked that way), pulling out a gun and shooting the bastard would be uncalled for while punching his lights out or physically restraining him might be more appropriate actions to take.
The way I see it, the amount of violence I would use would be the minimum amount needed to temporarily incapacitate the abuser until the authorities (or any other entity with a license to mete out judgement) could take over.
Once the authorites came, I would consequently turn myself over to them until they determine my actions to have been justifiable and release me. After all, that's what accountability is all about.(reply to this comment) |
| | From Benz
Tuesday, October 11, 2005, 03:21
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Well measured response JW, as always.
I personally think that hypothesising along these lines is always likely to be highly problematic.
For example, since you only mentioned "eye witness", are you saying that if you only heard screams by someone being raped/ beaten next door (and not actually saw) you would not take measures to violently stop this action from continuing and possibly try to apprehend the offender?
But it seems you have it all worked out already and that’s cool.
I certainly don't want to be talking-up violence, and I hope everyone reading understands we are discussing hypothetical situations. I mean, we can all watch an action movie where Arnie reeks havoc and revenge on people who murdered his family, but if it happened in real life, well we all know what that story would read.... I also think that it is good to talk about this kind of edgy topic rather than hiding from it.
I suppose if I were to ask you one more question it would be:
- Do you think that the laws, (and those who administered the laws) have been sufficient in keeping us safe while growing up, and in properly punishing those who harmed us?
If you said no, then you must agree that the laws need changing/ revising to ensure that the type of harm we experienced does not continue to occur. Further, those who administer the laws need to be updated in relation to this kind of danger in order to also consider this in their judgements.
I think we can all agree we want a safer world, where people like those in TF can not feel so free to treat people as they will, with disregard, negligence, cruelty, violence and abuse.
If we cannot rely on the laws and those who administer them to adequately keep innocent children safe, then how can you show so much faith in the judgement of the authorities? - You're willing to put yourself in the hands of the authorities to pass judgement on you for your actions when they have shown themselves to not adequately bring those who harmed you to justice. Talk about justice and authorities administering it, they don't seem to know an ass from an elbow.
Do we owe a duty to a society which has not kept us safe as children, a society which did nothing but fail us? I mean we obviously owe society to keep its laws, but aren't the laws we keep also supposed to keep us safe as kids? Do you think society really cares about what happened to us as kids? - No, we are just another statistic added to yet another dust-collecting "record of abuse", that a magistrate with a big grey wig can sign his name to half asleep and call it a hearing.
The only thing that will ever change things the way we would like is political pressure and I am yet to see any sort of indication of that among us.(reply to this comment) |
| | From JohnnieWalker
Wednesday, October 12, 2005, 06:00
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You asked, "For example, since you only mentioned "eye witness", are you saying that if you only heard screams by someone being raped/ beaten next door (and not actually saw) you would not take measures to violently stop this action from continuing and possibly try to apprehend the offender?"
Hypothetically, if I only heard screams (thereby being unable to substantiate what action caused them), it would become necessary to investigate the source and become an eyewitness before I attempt to intervene.
If I only heard the neighbor's screams but saw nothing, it would be my responsibility do alert the authorities. If after repeated failed attempts to do so, I would investigate privately, circumstances permitting.
While I agree with you that the authorites do not always do their job well or may be too lenient (some would say too brutal), the fact remains that they, not I, have a right to use force. So long as they make the rules, I play by their game.
Which then brings us to your question of lobbying to change the way the law deals with cases of abuse withing groups such as The Family.
I agree that educating politicians on the issues faced within extra-societal groups would go far in amending the laws governing them. However, judging by the struggle those speaking to the media have faced, this is no small feat and the depth of these issues may prove daunting to your average grandstander.(reply to this comment) |
| | From Benz
Wednesday, October 12, 2005, 14:17
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"If I only heard the neighbor's screams but saw nothing, it would be my responsibility do alert the authorities. If after repeated failed attempts to do so, I would investigate privately, circumstances permitting." - Jack the Ripper would have come and gone no doubt, but hey, that's hypotheticals for you, you do one thing I do another. and thats just the point, there is no black and white answer to every situation, you cannot code a mechanicised response to this sort of scenario, there are too many variables. In the end it will likely be a jury of your peers which decides your criminal liability or lack thereof.
"the fact remains that they, not I, have a right to use force" - Are you sure about that as a blanket statement? Are you sure that is such a blanket rule? Heard of militias? - not that I'm supporting this either, just an example. I think you DO have a right to use force to defend an innocent person who is being raped, assaulted etc. - but what is deemed "reasonable force" is ultimately decided by a jury/judge.
I would appreciate any proper lawyerly remarks here if I am incorrect or need a swift kick up the backside for misleading/ misguided statements.
Lastly, without meaning to "grandstand", I think there are far more effective ways of political lobbying than "speaking to the media", which some seem to see as the be-all. The struggles that those "speaking to the media" face are likely to be entirely different than other forms of politicking. To see all political action in terms of "speaking to the media" would indicate small mindedness on behalf of that mindset owner, and a prescription of further study should be administered.
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| | From moon beam
Thursday, October 13, 2005, 03:16
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..the plus about speaking to the media and why it has been so effective so far,is that the general public become aware of these groups and it's usually their vote and voice that make a difference with their local MP or politician. When enough people write to their MP's it becomes something they percieve as being important to society and the community.
But if people don't know about whats going on, they can't know that they are part of the solution.
Another step is to get convictions.
Another is staging protests outside goverment buildings-There was one last year outside downing street, which went well enough but it could have done with more publicity.
Another would be to raise the profile of the charities that are working with the fallout of these groups, taking the argument away that there is nothing to worry about and that they are harmless.
This will also effect what parents say to they're children and what warnings they give /warning signs they should look out for. Being able to pick up on the fact that your kid comes home from uni and is acting a bit strangly etc..Being able to nip it in the bud as one of my friends did with her son and who managed to get him out before he got in too deep.
Education in schools is another important area to cover too. And a friend of mine has writen an educational pack for RE teachers which we hope will be more widly available soon.
Tighter restrictions on bogus charities like TF, in the UK you have to wear and show a badge which shows your picture and that you are registered. (but this was one of the reasons TF left the west to get rid such technicalities-I was never asked for identification on the street in India. But we did get raided a few times for it.
benz yes it is up to the judges discretion (just what is reasonable) as every case is different and is decided on individual merit and of course what precedent is already set. (though that can be overturned by a higher court.)(reply to this comment) |
| | | | | From moon beam
Thursday, October 13, 2005, 05:04
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like you said appearing in the media is not the only thing or the best thing for everyone.
I fully support lobbying and see it as a big necessity. I wish you well.
What about Petions? They can be quite powerful and maybe the build up of all these areas will increase the will and enviroment for justice. I know you can do it on line as I've signed a few on saving the rainforrest and saving the enviroment.
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| | | | | From moon beam
Thursday, October 13, 2005, 02:44
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You're quite right-I can't begin to express how hard it was to explain TF to anyone who had never heard of them much less knew anything about cults.
The claims I made 15years ago were extremely difficult for people to take in, police, investigators, journalists and the general public alike, to the point of disbelief, they couldn't imagine that a group of people could do such things to their children, let alone people who called themselves christians.
Look how the police handled some of the raids, though thats no excuse for police brutality or being heavy handed. Speaking of which, I just heard some guy was arrested for wearing an anti-bush T-shirt under the terrorism act.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/HRW/e54727f42edd48625b456a187d144e3e.htm
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| | From Benz
Thursday, October 13, 2005, 04:25
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I often find myself asking the question "Would Ricky have gone to such extreme and tragic lengths if he felt that society and its laws were adequately seeking to dispense justice, and that those laws had an actual probability of being effective?" - I don't think so, and I think it is evident that his total despair of there EVER being justice is what led him to the ultimate tragedy.... - So what can we do to fix this, so that we can feel society behind us trying to both make this right and keep it from happening again?(reply to this comment) |
| | From moon beam
Thursday, October 13, 2005, 06:37
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That is the million-dollar question isn't it!
But I hear what you are saying!
It covers so many areas, but I do see it as humanities duty somewhat to always strive to answer it.
I don’t like to comment on Ricky and his thoughts, as I didn't know him. But from some things he said in his video, you may have a point. Despair is a crippling emotion. And it breaks my heart that he didn't make it through. But also what was apparent was his hurt and pain, which he felt completely, overcome by, being raised in a most cold and calculating way, abused then rejected and yet he also had the realisation of everyone else’s abuse.
We can't know that if he had reported his mother and she was found, whether he would have still taken the same path-we may never know. Maybe he didn't have the strength to actually report it or as you say, the faith/certainty? that once it was reported anything would be done. Or, as he knew how deceitful and devious Zerby and Peter are, that they would never be caught anyway even if there was a search.
But taking it wider, it is for the common folk to take disagreements to court and report abuse, to make the case /demand our policies to meet our standards, we already have a legal system in place to deal with all these crimes that TF commit, and many provisions to aid in it. What makes it difficult is when groups such as TF cut people of from their rights/limiting knowledge, family and society etc.
Adding to that that it's only been relatively recent that victims (not just TF victims) felt able to speak out, due to fear of bringing shame to the family, but that climate is changing. (for instance the uncle or father raped a girl and she became pregnant-her mother would pretend to be the mother-and the girl sent away -the perpetrator got off/was not confronted and it was never to be mentioned)
Beating/canning were still allowed in school only 30 -50yrs ago but has now been banned in many countries.
It has never been safer for a child then it is today in Europe, but there are still many places(indeed groups) in the world where life is still not valued, so to me it’s a valuable effort all round and one that will always continue.
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| | | | | From Benz
Wednesday, October 12, 2005, 03:55
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I don't think TF have any real power much less political power worth lobbying, do you? Besides, one would only lobby with a dictatorship if they were the dominant power.
TF are not above the law, despite the way they flout it, they at best only EVADE it, which is a clear reflection of their culture in that they are nothing but absconders, skulking individuals who have an ostracised view of themselves in relation to society. Do they respect society's laws? Much less value them? - No!! - They would be the first ones to tear them down, and not so they could make something better, but so they could merely dominate and enslave the world. The TF believe in their fantasy that their rightful place is to rule the world, and that is why they believe they are above the rules & laws of the world which are here to keep us safe and protect us.
Is the TF archetype society's enemy? - I believe not only that they ARE but that they THEMSELVES believe they are, that is their archetype, their chosen and fostered identity. TF was born out of rebellion of not just society and organised religion, but also the hippie movement which they rejected equally. - They hate society on the whole, and have tried to impart their emotional problems on to us children, to create identity-clones of themselves and give them company when no-one else would (unless they FF'ed them).
TF & its leadership have no real "power", they are worse than trash. Do you negotiate with trash? - No....That being said TF do effectively play political games themselves (even though they pretend to reject politics like the Manson family pretended to) remember Gadaffi? Don't think that James Chancellor is not part of a political move by TF, to gain much needed support, the effects of which are already evident (ie Stephen Schaff).....it appears evident that TF realise for their very survival they must join more powerful lobby groups. - All this does is disenfranchise the loonies like Schaff, but the real deviants will only have better cover, and better protection.
What I mean in my comment however is political pressure on government bodies, activist groups, lobby groups, political parties and affiliations & so forth.
Our agenda is (or may be) to persuade "society" to ensure that children are given adequate protection from emotionally dysfunctional people who join cults & deprive them of education whilst exploiting and abusing them. - What real politician would not want to support those goals?
Of course what we are looking for is in effect a curtailing of the ability of parents to treat their children as mere property or tools to suit their agenda, collateral to be expended with. - This would obviously fall out of line with the agenda of some hard-line civil libertarians who would be protesting of "big-brother", but really what choice is there?(reply to this comment) |
| | From ErikMagnusLehnsher
Wednesday, October 12, 2005, 20:36
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I think I understand the points that you are making.
I think negotiating with TF leadership is probably a worthless venture but that's different than applying political pressure to the group through the media and other venues. TF leadership has demonstrated consistently over the years that they WILL make tough concessions when they are deemed "necessary" for the survival of the group and their grip on power. Many of these concessions such as the Charter, the posthumous assignment of blame to Berg for sexual abuse of many of our generation (after B.I. Court Case), letting academics interview members (even SGA's) one-on-one, etc. reduced their power but were necessary to preserve the group. Legal problems and raids ("persecution") also served as a type of pressure. The fact that kids in TF are far, far better off today than we were as kids is a testament to the effectiveness of external pressure.
I think many of us that are now out have different views and opinions and obviously have very different lives but I'm confident the vast majority of us support the goals that you listed of children in TF (and elsewhere for that matter) having better protection from exploitation or abuse, and a better education.
Pressure can be applied through the presentation of a list of demands everytime someone speaks in the media that includes things like:
1) 3rd party verification and testing that children are up to par scholastically.
2) Changes to rules requiring people to leave TF if they take legal action against an abuser of their children (this is such a blatant attempt to discourage prosecution of abusers it's pathetic).
3) Verification that children aren't being used to raise money.
Regarding Orwellian oversight of how parents raise their children: I think (at least here in the U.S.) those types of measures applied across the board would be met by opposition by more than just hard-line civil libertarians. However, I can imagine legislation whereby high-risk groups that have a documented history of abuse and gross misjudgment regarding the care of children merit special attention.
These would be bitter pills for TF leadership to swallow because there would be strong association between the incompetence/perversion of the leadership and the requirements made of common folks in the group. But if they are battered again and again in the media on these issues I think they would eventually relent.
Much of the historical success of the group has been their ability to filter and control information and thus control their flock. To pull an example from U.S. Civil Rights history: They would have probably tried to convince black Americans in the South that Rosa Parks was an enemy rather than someone standing up for the rights of all black Americans and working for their freedom.
Demands associated with protecting children are very, very difficult to spin. It's one thing to call us liars who want a fat compensatory check from the group but concerns regarding children are well founded. Given the documented history of the group, a very compelling case can be made in the media and to legislators. Is that the type of political pressure we are talking about?(reply to this comment) |
| | From Benz
Thursday, October 13, 2005, 04:00
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Firstly, I am not a politician but based on simple observation I would say that although media exposure brings the issue out in the open it is not in itself successful politicking. Plus you run the serious risk of over-exposure, by which you (as in us) will start taking on the appearance of a circus freak show, some ogrish oddity, or an aberration fit to be stared and sneered at. - Is that what we want?
It's great to draw attention to your plight, but at what cost? - And to what extent? I personally do not think it is in everyone's best interests to put themselves on public television. - Some people will suit it more than others.
There are many forms of politicking, one method of achieving what we want would be possibly to; a) draw attention to the problem (media exposure or just telling the right people), b) get to know the right people and network over a period of time, c) come up with legitimate and valid solutions or courses of action (if this is not thought through you will only look like a fool), d) approach the matter at the right times when the opportunities arise, e) continue to push the issues though continually expanding your network until your goals are achieved.
Other forms could be protests, demonstrations etc, however overall I think we have to show "society" that it is in their best interests to have tougher laws. If we can show the right people the detriment that TF (& similar groups) have on the well being of society overall would legislators start to take more of an active interest in curtailing these run-away criminals? - I think they would..
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| | From an activist
Tuesday, October 11, 2005, 03:50
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I agree we need to be pressuring our goverments for human rights laws.
It's a shame the western world has been keen to strip us of our civil liberties over the last few years.
reminds me of a Bob Dylan song;
Come you masters of war
You that build all the guns
You that build the death planes
You that build the big bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masks
You that never done nothin'
But build to destroy
You play with my world
Like it's your little toy
You put a gun in my hand
And you hide from my eyes
And you turn and run farther
When the fast bullets fly
Like Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water
That runs down my drain
You fasten the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
As young people's blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud
You've thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain't worth the blood
That runs in your veins
How much do I know
To talk out of turn
You might say that I'm young
You might say I'm unlearned
But there's one thing I know
Though I'm younger than you
Even Jesus would never
Forgive what you do
Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul
And I hope that you die
And your death'll come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand o'er your grave
'Til I'm sure that you're dead
http://orad.dent.kyushu-u.ac.jp/dylan/mastwar.html
By the way there is no statute of limitations in the UK as there is in the US, so even if the abuse happened 30 yrs ago you can, providing you are a british citizen, report a member of TF to the police.
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