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from Conqueror of Uranus Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 22:50 (Agree/Disagree?) Someone just had to do this.... So before someone else does.... Green Day Nice Guys finish last Nice guys finish last. You're running out of gas. Your sympathy will get you left behind. Sometimes you're at your best, then you feel the worst. You'll get washed up, like piss going down the drain Pressure cooker bake my brain and tell me I'm insane. I'm so fucking happy I could cry. Every joke can have its truth and now the joke's on you. I never knew you were such a funny guy. Oh nice guys finish last, when you run out of gas. Don't pat yourself on the back you might break your spine. Living on command. You're shaking lots of hands. You're kissing up and bleeding all your trust. Taking what you need, bite the hand that feeds. You lose your memory and you got no shame. Pressure cooker bake my brain and tell me I'm insane. I'm so fucking happy I could cry. Every joke can have its truth and now the joke's on you. I never knew you were such a funny guy. (reply to this comment)

From I hate Greenday Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 18:43 (Agree/Disagree?) (reply to this comment)

From Oddman Wednesday, January 10, 2007, 01:53 (Agree/Disagree?) Heh, someone finally gave into temptation. But I'm guilty of a greenday phase too, so can't say much. Still enjoy some of their numbers.(reply to this comment)

From placebo Tuesday, January 09, 2007, 23:28 (Agree/Disagree?) I was gonna do that but I didn't want people knowing that I used to listen to Greenday. I was young and naive ok?(reply to this comment)

From rainy Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 01:58 (Agree/Disagree?) You mean you were a bit GREEN?(reply to this comment)

From fragiletiger Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 02:29 (Agree/Disagree?) GROAN...(reply to this comment)

From Conqueror of Uranus Tuesday, January 09, 2007, 23:33 (Agree/Disagree?) I still listen to punk.... The first CDs I bought were Green Day's Nimrod and the Offspring's Ixnay on the Hombre. I've since moved on to more hardcore and old school punk.(reply to this comment)

From placebo Tuesday, January 09, 2007, 23:38 (Agree/Disagree?) so do I, but I prefer bands like Mission of Burma,Misfits, The Clash etc.Luckily my Greenday and Offspring phase was over before I left the cult.(reply to this comment)

From placebo Tuesday, January 09, 2007, 23:38 (Agree/Disagree?) so do I, but I prefer bands like Mission of Burma,Misfits, The Clash etc.Luckily my Greenday and Offspring phase was over before I left the cult.(reply to this comment)

From Conqueror of Uranus Tuesday, January 09, 2007, 23:45 (Agree/Disagree?) I left the cult a bit late, at 15 (year 2000). I got my first job at a truck tire stand and wanted to blow my money on anything.... I went through Rancid, Unwritten Law, NOFX, Bad Religion, Flogging Molly, MXPX, Anti-Flag, the Dropkick Murphys, AFI (the early stuff)etc,etc...... I feel lucky to have never succumed to the likes of Good Charlotte, Blink182, New Found Glory etc.... And don't get me started on emo.... (reply to this comment)

From Conqueror of Uranus Tuesday, January 09, 2007, 23:47 (Agree/Disagree?) I still prefer the Pistols and the Ramones..... I like the old stuff.(reply to this comment)

from Aaron Saturday, January 06, 2007 - 19:54 (Agree/Disagree?) I've been there. Your article is fucking brilliant! I was able to relate directly to every point you made. Escaping from the cult half dead by the time I left in 98' i was exceedling spineless. Through experience, education, therapy & medication I've begun to put the past behind me. Too many boys growing up without fathers, homes, clothes,books,friends or other environmental factors responsible for developing self esteem in childhood are responsible for the spineless individuals comming out of the COG (reply to this comment)

From rainy Sunday, January 07, 2007, 01:45 (Agree/Disagree?) I agree, but can't take credit for the article. This is from the website Heartless Bithces International.(reply to this comment)

From Ne Oublie Sunday, January 07, 2007, 06:59 (Agree/Disagree?) Why am I not surprised?(reply to this comment)

From rainy Sunday, January 07, 2007, 12:43 (Agree/Disagree?) Ummm... Maybe you read the title of the article? (You wouldn't be calling me a heartless bitch by any chance?)(reply to this comment)

From Ne Oublie Sunday, January 07, 2007, 13:08 (Agree/Disagree?) It's called a rhetorical question, rainy.(reply to this comment)

From rainy Tuesday, January 09, 2007, 00:29 (Agree/Disagree?) Where was this great ability to take things in context when I remarked on your ego?(reply to this comment)

From Ne Oublie Tuesday, January 09, 2007, 01:03 (Agree/Disagree?) No not mistake selective deployment for absence of skill.(reply to this comment)

From rainy Tuesday, January 09, 2007, 02:09 (Agree/Disagree?) Just so you know, that was what is known as a rhetorical question.(reply to this comment)

From Ne Oublie Tuesday, January 09, 2007, 04:03 (Agree/Disagree?) Refer to the above (minus typo) and stop trying to secure the last word :P(reply to this comment)

From rainy Tuesday, January 09, 2007, 04:17 (Agree/Disagree?) How do I stick my tongue out without it coming out like a cute little smiley? YOU BIG MEANY-HEAD! (STAMP)(reply to this comment)

From Samuel Tuesday, January 09, 2007, 05:03 (Agree/Disagree?) Try this one: :O----(reply to this comment)

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From Ne Oublie Tuesday, January 09, 2007, 04:50 (Agree/Disagree?) ... or, keep trying... suit yourself, rainy.(reply to this comment)

From Ne Oublie Tuesday, January 09, 2007, 01:04 (Agree/Disagree?) *Do(reply to this comment)

from jolifam77 Friday, January 05, 2007 - 17:15 (Agree/Disagree?) I'm surprised anyone whose left even has time to think about dating and relationships. I'm still at the first rung in maslow's hierarchy of values. Love, social interaction,...what a luxury. just underscores how much I fucking hate the Family for ruining my life. (reply to this comment)

From Oddman Saturday, January 06, 2007, 01:07 (Agree/Disagree?) I'm surprised anyone whose left has much time to think about how much they fucking hate the COG for ruining their lives. Between all my romances, flings, keeping exotic foods and alcohols on the table, worldly possessions to buy, travelling the world, weed variations to sample, music to appreciate, questions to ask. Ach, hate, what a luxury. I think the first step was realizing the COG didn't ruin my life. They tried. Nice try assholes, I'm still the embodiment of awesome. I'm not trying to downplay the evils we grew up in. Far from it. No doubt, they gave me a hell of a difficult starting position. I've spent my share of time resenting and hating who I was. I've got many quirks that possibly owe to the way I was brought up. I have few true friends, because simply it's difficult for me to relate to people who don't share my life experience. I just lost a 80K p/annum + bonuses job that I earned over 3 1/2 years, because people found out my hippy parents didn't think it neccessary to put me through school. Now I'm bouncing at a dingy hip-hop club for 10 bucks an hour. But the COG ruined the first 15 years of my life. I'm not about to give them the pleasure of fucking with the rest of it. Blaming something for our problems isn't gonna make our lives better. I come here to interact with people that understand my past. It's letting shit out. That keeps me from thinking about it the rest of the time, while I enjoy my wonderful life. (reply to this comment)

From GetReal Saturday, January 06, 2007, 03:08 (Agree/Disagree?) WTF that sucks that you lost your job. Just a question why don't you get a fake diploma or can't you just lie about that ? (reply to this comment)

From Ne Oublie Saturday, January 06, 2007, 09:03 (Agree/Disagree?) Actually, adding to my comment below, lying about having a diploma - or using a fake one - would be sufficient grounds for you to lose your job/get demoted. Whereas being honest that you don't have one, although it can make climbing the ladder harder, would mean that not having it would not be sufficient grounds to do so - unless, of course, done under the guise of a 'performance review', 're-structuring', or somesuch.(reply to this comment)

From Oddman Saturday, January 06, 2007, 04:11 (Agree/Disagree?) I started in the company washing cars, and people didn't give a shit about my records. One thing led to another, from car wash to sales to marketing to manager for all things business development. Saw the company through a take over and IPO. They knew I was in the company from 20 yrs old, so knew I wasn't a college grad, but they didn't think their development manager was drafting contracts without being through elementary school. Our parent company had people who graduated from some university of fancy pants, and had been with the parent company for years. Suddenly there's a subsidiary with a manager half their age, who gets paid double what they do, and he's never been to kindergarden. Shit doth happen. It was my decision to resign rather than take a paycut and work under idiots who happened to have parents that could afford to put them through college. (reply to this comment)

From Ne Oublie Saturday, January 06, 2007, 06:15 (Agree/Disagree?) Which country was that in - over here I can't imagine a company could get away with handing out a demotion or pay cut without a performance review.(reply to this comment)

From conan Monday, January 08, 2007, 14:58 (Agree/Disagree?) NeO, There are many States here in the U.S. that can fire you for no reason. It's called 'right to work' laws and they pretty much grant upper management all the rights. That's why unions here are so strong and important. If you're in a union you can't be fired without some sort of civil action being taken by the union from which the employee was fired. If you are not in a union, however, you can be fired for no reason at all. You can try and sue for wrongful termination so it doesn't happen often with high paying jobs, but it does happen more often than you might think.(reply to this comment)

From Oddman Monday, January 08, 2007, 18:22 (Agree/Disagree?) Eh, yeah, but I wasn't fired.... I think there's a difference between letting staff go, and acknowledging their good work but reducing their pay based on academic record.(reply to this comment)

From its aka Monday, January 08, 2007, 17:32 (Agree/Disagree?) employment "at will"(reply to this comment)

From venus_fly_trap Monday, January 08, 2007, 14:30 (Agree/Disagree?) In California you can be fired without reason. Going public means that that the new management have the reins and can do as they please. After an IPO, many good employees lose their job. It's sad but definately a part of the corporate structure. (reply to this comment)

From Oddie Saturday, January 06, 2007, 08:44 (Agree/Disagree?) Tis the wonders of Japan.(reply to this comment)

From Oddie Saturday, January 06, 2007, 08:44 (Agree/Disagree?) Tis the wonders of Japan.(reply to this comment)

From rainy Saturday, January 06, 2007, 02:10 (Agree/Disagree?) Absolutely Oddie! Thank you! (That's what I was saying in my mind with the below comment, but it didn't quite come out)(reply to this comment)

From rainy Friday, January 05, 2007, 17:40 (Agree/Disagree?) Hmmm...where do we find the time? Maybe with all the time we're NOT spending thinking about why we're genetically superior to everyone else?(reply to this comment)

From jolifam77 Saturday, January 06, 2007, 06:02 (Agree/Disagree?) touché(reply to this comment)

From rainy Saturday, January 06, 2007, 06:08 (Agree/Disagree?) no fair! you can make an accent mark over your e's? Damn these Western keyboards!(reply to this comment)

From Blondie Tuesday, January 09, 2007, 19:28 (Agree/Disagree?) Try this: - Start menu - Accessories - System Tools - Character Map Under a standard font like "Times New Roman" you've got all the different "accent marks". Et c'est ça! (I'm sure there's an easier way but this is the way blondes do it. Hey...whatever works right?)(reply to this comment)

from Shaka Friday, January 05, 2007 - 15:55 (Agree/Disagree?) Fucking brilliant! (reply to this comment)

from madly Friday, January 05, 2007 - 13:05 (Agree/Disagree?) Thanks Rainy. :) (reply to this comment)

from AnnaH Friday, January 05, 2007 - 12:40 (Agree/Disagree?) So, you mean it's completely normal for me to have panic attacks when a guy says he loves me? Phew! That's a relief, I thought I was some kind of psycho. (reply to this comment)

From Oddman Saturday, January 06, 2007, 01:21 (Agree/Disagree?) I get panic attacks when women ask "do you love me?".(reply to this comment)

From itsxena2u Monday, January 22, 2007, 07:09 (Agree/Disagree?) Oddman, do you love me?(reply to this comment)

From rainy Friday, January 05, 2007, 15:43 (Agree/Disagree?) Let's see, for a beautiful, young - what are you? - 22 to 24 year-old to get the creeps when a boy gazes at her with cow-eyes and bleats, "I love you", yes. Perfectly normal. Being psycho can be okay too.(reply to this comment)

From Mr. Nice Guy Friday, January 05, 2007, 14:44 (Agree/Disagree?) Oh AnnaH, how I love thee. Let me count the ways: 1 1000 2 1000 3 1000 4 1000 5 1000 6 1000 7 1000 8 ......................(reply to this comment)

From AnnaH Saturday, January 06, 2007, 09:54 (Agree/Disagree?) *runs for the hills....(reply to this comment)