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Reader's comments on this article Add a new comment on this article | from exister99 Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 06:42 (Agree/Disagree?) At some point in the early 80s somebody in Mexico got a "burden" to convert and recruit every gay waiter and he-bitch from Acapulco to Monterrey. The result was a whole crop of very fabulous looking Mexican members who, due the abiding fetish for effeminate men in the female population were pretty much able to fornicate and impregnate at will, with females that is. As you can imagine this whole "Jesus cured me of homosexuality" silliness only lasted a few years before there was a whole rash of excommunications resulting from these "ex-gays" getting caught swapping man meat. For the first offense they got the usual exorcism of the demon Fabulus routine, but after the second or third time they got caught manhandling each other's junk it was "back to waiting tables in drag at La Feria for you my erstwhile disciple friend." (reply to this comment)
| from SeanSwede (Athiest) Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 23:52 (Agree/Disagree?) Even according to nature, all gays have a right to: "An harm non, do what ye will" "God" created bi-sexual animals so seeing that we also are animals and "Gods" creation we are therefore also allowed to be bi-sexual. End of discussion. (reply to this comment)
| from Sydney Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 22:07 (Agree/Disagree?) gays weren't allowed cause if little "jonny" and little "mikey" were off fucking like rabbits...who would be there busy getting the family girls all, knocked up......???? (reply to this comment)
| | | from sar Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 05:11 (Agree/Disagree?) Lesbians were not allowed in the family. Bisexual women were. It was okay for a woman to be gay so as she did not exclude men. (reply to this comment)
| from cagey Sunday, April 11, 2004 - 07:34 (Agree/Disagree?) Following is a quote from Gore Vidal " Although there is no such thing as a homosexual or a heterosexual person, there are, of course, homo- and heterosexual acts. Unhappily, it has suited the designers of the moral life of the American republic to pretend that there are indeed two teams, one evil and sick and dangerous, and one good and normal and--that word!--straight. This is further complicated by our society's enduring hatred of women, a legacy from the Old Testament, enriched, in due course, by St. Paul. As a result, it is an article of faith among simple folk that any man who performs a sexual act with another man is behaving just like a woman--the fallen Eve--and so he is doubly evil. " March 1985, Introduction to Tennessee Williams Collected Stories (reply to this comment)
| From Kayte Friday, November 19, 2004, 18:01 (Agree/Disagree?) Actually, I think this phenomenom originated mostly in the post-Christ era. I read that Alexander, while definitley not gay, had a long-term relationship with his right-hand man, Hephaestion. I think this happened a lot among the Greeks, as Achilles is also historically thought to have engaged in sexual acts with his protégé, Patroclus. The thing is that then there were not really "gays and straights." In fact, it was thought that you were more manly or stronger if you did have sex with other men, as they were the superior sex, and your strength was multiplied by having sex with another strong man. Look is up... . Cheers!(reply to this comment) |
| | from The Gay Ex-members Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 17:57 (Agree/Disagree?) We suspect, due to the vague wording of this article, that you're more interested in hooking up than starting a serious discussion. Well allow us to assure you that we are WAY out of your league, and plus, you live in Minnesota! Ughh, as if! Maybe when you move out of the midwest and get some culture we can get together for some Cosmos, but until then, later girlfriend! (reply to this comment)
| | | | | from Shaka Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 13:55 (Agree/Disagree?) The only reason lesbians were allowed and not gays is because it fit into Berg's fantasies to see his whores getting it on with each other when he couldn't get it up to do the job himself. If he had gotten off on watching guys do the same, it would have been equally allowed in the rest of TF. Scripture had nothing to do with most of the shit Berg spewed. Just his own psycho little mind trying to see tang in everything he looked at. (reply to this comment)
| from cagey Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 06:30 (Agree/Disagree?) I think it depended on who they were. People such as Watchman and Uncle Tim had a lovely threesome with a token ‘Fag Hag’. Other people such who were in leadership positions were allowed to spank teenage boys. I did know one ordinary person who got excommunicated for a gay relationship. (reply to this comment)
| From NClaunch Sunday, April 17, 2005, 10:04 (Agree/Disagree?) My ex-stepfather Clay, (aka Peter Cook) joined the family as 'gay' i believe. My earliest memories of him were when i was about 4 or 5. My mother used to put on perfume and makeup and a slinky sarong and go out to his trailer to spend time with him. Eventually, they got together, had a child and were married. I didn't know anything about anything until some time after he left TF. I was reading old mailings and found his photo in a letter ( a sort of exorcism/ultimatum letter) cleansing his spirit of homosexuality. It was directed at him and another man... can't remember his name but with photos. That was the first time i ever even heard anything about his sexual preference (although, being a child in the family, who would assume anyone was gay? it just wasn't part of life.) but after then, thinking about it i could remember times where he was obviously extremely feminine and i can still recall instances where i now know he was flirting with other uncles. Guess his exorcism didn't really work out (even though he did on numerous occasions 'mate' with my mother and other aunties). Don't know what his preference is now but i know he was married to another female outside the family (after my mom) and then divorced and now who knows? My mother said some years ago, that he was probably too 'self-righteous' now to admit to homosexuality. Boy does TF fuck you up? I know for a fact he used to work in Zerby's home as their chef or whatever. Guess he got demoted after they found out he was gay.(reply to this comment) |
| | | | from Spat Monday, March 29, 2004 - 12:39 (Agree/Disagree?) Thought it is true that the Family does have a very chauvinistic take on sex etc, the real root of this inconsistency can be more accurately traced to the bible where Homosexuality by males was punishable by death and homosexuality by females is not even approached. I have 2 theories of why the phenomena occurred: 1.- Women were considered sexual objects in bible times and as such they were not entitled to feel lust and desire, making sex between women an odd (impossible to fathom) occurrence since the only sex they could be interested in would be their dutiful sexual service to their husband. 2.- Sexuality between women was looked upon as a normal occurrence to satisfy the male’s (yes most males do find it very arousing, including mua) sexual appetite. Personally those are my theories on the subject I might be totally off base and will be the 1st to admit I have no basis to support either, but until I find a better explanation I thought I would share them with you all. (reply to this comment)
| from asesinoanal Monday, March 29, 2004 - 11:21
| from a Monday, March 29, 2004 - 01:29 (Agree/Disagree?) to comment on your post, this is the way i see it. i could of course be totally wrong. the reason lesbians were "allowed" and not gays is because men were king - to put it very simply. women were nothing else than there to please the men and do what they were told. not all of course, as there were some pretty weird women around as well. anyhow, i have yet to meet a man who does not get turned on by two women so that's your answer there from me. gotta go. sorry for the lame writing techniques etc. (reply to this comment)
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