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from Redrose84 Monday, February 13, 2006 - 16:31

from Shaka Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 09:44 (Agree/Disagree?) Jules, I nominate this for the trailer park. Or 4 more of you can just vote it there. (reply to this comment)

From Speedx3dave Wednesday, January 26, 2005, 17:35 (Agree/Disagree?) go fuck your self you narrow minded prick licking half ass with no brain for yourself. Go and heal your self, you need to learn that murder dose not justify sympathy for Davadito. He was a spoiled little prick who never sold a poster or had to go kiddie video selling. Unfortunately it was my child labor baring ass that supported his spoiled dick, so fuck off and die bitch!(reply to this comment)

From Speedx3dave Wednesday, January 26, 2005, 17:32 (Agree/Disagree?) hey, go fuck yourself! You probly live in a trailer park asshole!(reply to this comment)

from eryk Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 00:25 (Agree/Disagree?) Hey to the dude who wrote "I have no sympathy for him," you are a jerk and you should learn how to spell. Spell check was invented for dumbasses like you. Like is tough for eveyone, but some people get it real bad. You think we should all find Jesus? Dude, I found him & he tried to fuck me in the ass. You must have been too young to have read the Davidito Book. No one or thing can justify murder/suicide but that does not proscribe trying to understand why. And believe me, there was a why. Get an education, watch a friend or relative of yours kill themselves & then come back to me with your jesus. " Those who can not remember the past are doomed to repeat it" G. Santayana (reply to this comment)

From 6stringdevil Thursday, May 12, 2005, 14:02

From Speedx3dave Wednesday, January 26, 2005, 17:39 (Agree/Disagree?) fuck you! Can you spell that? why don't you fuck off and die too bitch!(reply to this comment)

from NoseyBrit Friday, January 21, 2005 - 07:32 (Agree/Disagree?) Any one know if Ricky's vid is anywhere on the web for us Brits who don't have access to CNN? (reply to this comment)

From Craven de Kere Tuesday, January 25, 2005, 23:28 (Agree/Disagree?) You can find it here: http://www.xfamily.org/index.php/Ricky%27s_video(reply to this comment)

From covert Friday, January 21, 2005, 12:20 (Agree/Disagree?) perhaps if i knew who you were or if i knew someone who knows you i could point you in the right direction(reply to this comment)

from frmrjoyish Friday, January 21, 2005 - 07:07 (Agree/Disagree?) I wonder what Jesus would say about your obscene article! You deride Ricky for what he did but in the next paragraph advocate swerving in front of nobel peace prize winners. You might want to run that by your precious Jesus again just to make sure he's cool with that. And you dont have to waste your limited brain cells wondering what made Ricky jump off the deep end, you just have to do a little research into the well documented physical, sexual, and emotional abuse he suffered his entire life. That may clue you in a little bit. (reply to this comment)

from clark Friday, January 21, 2005 - 06:50 (Agree/Disagree?) I am wondering if anyone out there knew "sue" personally. If so, there must be something, one thing nice that can be said about her out of respect. I'm sure she was involved in a mess of stuff regarding Ricky, but she was killed and is answering to God as we speak. No matter what someone has done in life, I think there needs to be at least some sort of rememberance of their life and respect for her death as well as Rickys. I asume she was a Mother, etc and even though it's hard to imagine anyone involved with Bergs home being normal, she was to some degree a product of the enviorment and under extreem mind control. Ricky's death is tragic, so heatbreaking that he could not see even a ray of hope, a bit of love from somewhere. Ricky, you have peace now and will feel no more pain. (reply to this comment)

From celestej Thursday, August 28, 2008, 18:49

From an FGA Friday, January 21, 2005, 08:06 (Agree/Disagree?) I preface my comments with the observation that I am acutely aware that I am an FGA and have little understanding of the SGA experience in TF. Yes, I knew her for quite a long time. She was not a mother. She was one of those people who, even though in WS and had lived with Zerby for a long time, did not strike you as inherently bad. She was not a big shot -- more one of those "little people." Somewhat mindless, in a harmless sort of way. A small, slight person. I don't think you'll find a lot of people who personally disliked her. I think your take is pretty accurate -- a product of her environment, under extreme mind control. I am not in any way saying this to minimise the extreme wrongdoing of her involvement in TF. Or the fact of her sexual involvement with Ricky when he was a child. This sounds pretty screwy, but she was not like some of these other WS people, like John PI, who really abused people every day with his power, not to mention sexually. It's all difficult to express, especially in this forum. Angela was not an easy person to hate. I don't think Angela deserved what she got. I don't think that much is gained by trying to demonise her to the point that it justifies what Ricky did. But I say this as an FGA. (reply to this comment)

From Nancy Friday, January 21, 2005, 08:17 (Agree/Disagree?) Most of us have made little or no comment regarding Angela Smith. Most of us are concerned with Ricky. We certainly are not trying to demonize her. Yet, the fact still remains that she sexually abused Ricky, and she was a longtime member of the cult. But for these facts, she would not be dead. Many of us have refrained from passing judgment on the matter, except to say violence is wrong or to comment on Ricky's pain. But, I do have to point out. We are not dealing with a random victim of crime. That is all I will say about her. My heart goes out to everyone who suffers as a result of this tragedy. Would that it never happened. Ricky's life had value. I wish he would have seen that.(reply to this comment)

From Friday, January 21, 2005, 08:15 (Agree/Disagree?) I haven't read anything on here that is "trying to demonise her", just the facts of the part she played in Ricky's upbringing. It should be clear that we hold top WS leadership responsible for our abuse as well as most of our parents.(reply to this comment)

from dave Friday, January 21, 2005 - 04:52 (Agree/Disagree?) so i can assume you have not seen Ricky's video, right? (reply to this comment)

from TheTurdinator Friday, January 21, 2005 - 04:38 (Agree/Disagree?) Although this article was written rather harshly I can’t help but agree with the author's sentiments. Everyone seems to overlook the fact that Ricky did commit murder! There is never an excuse to take a life even if that person did play a part in a rather nasty childhood. We have all gone through a lot of pain and hardship growing up in the Family and some have obviously been unable to let go and move on. I have also been the unfortunate victim of abuse as a child but fortunately for me I did not have it plastered all over the publications for the world and his wife to read about. I still have nightmares about it but I will not let it interfere in my life, to do that would be to let the Family win and I am not about to allow that to happen! There is absolutely no excuse for what Ricky did and the dribble that people are posting on this site supporting what he did, encouraging others to do likewise is not only irresponsible it is totally unacceptable! I would urge the editors of this site to delete such comments or at least ban them to the Trailer Park! (reply to this comment)

From Speedx3dave Friday, February 04, 2005, 21:29

From Another perspective Friday, January 21, 2005, 07:44 (Agree/Disagree?) Look at this from a diferent perspective for a sec. In western society child abusers, sexual offenders of children are not held in high regard. It is thought to be one of the most heinious of crimes that can be committed on children. When one of these people (I know they are mostly men) is harmed or murdered in prison, there is NO sympathy or indeed a need to "understand" why. The truth of the matter is most people don't care or even say "Well, he/she got what was coming to them. (And they are not even the direct victms) So for the abusers to be shouting "unfair" "bitter" whatever it seems they want us to go against the natural tendencies of larger society. The fact that the majority of people here have felt some sembalance of sympathy for sue is quite astonishing by these standards. And shows just how understanding, mature and forgiving our generation, who most sane people acknowledge should be the last to "care about an abuser", really are. TF knew how the west hates such crimes and that is self eviedent in all the secrecy, the levels leadership took to make sure we were never alone in public, keep us quite, make us scared and paranoid of the"system" and outsiders, was incredable. They had us believing that we could be killed anyday for our faith. When all along we were protecting them from their crimes against us from those who would send them to jail. (reply to this comment)

From Friday, January 21, 2005, 08:09 (Agree/Disagree?) Adding to that...It sounds like that just because it was a woman, she shouln't be judged as harshly as a man in the same circumtance. But culture is not as sexist as it once was and whether it was a man abusing a little girl or boy, or a woman abusing a boy or girl (I was abused sexually by a woman in TF, I am a woman) It doesn't make any difference. For a long time society didn't believe a woman, because of their position to the child as bearer and nurturer, would be capable of doing such things. I think people will make up their own minds in the end. (reply to this comment)

From Beth Tuesday, January 25, 2005, 22:45 (Agree/Disagree?) It's funny that even in the most high security prisons, containing the worst criminals in the States, child molesters are are considered the lowest scum-- even amongst murderers and rapists. They must be prepared to watch their backs as they are constant targets. When they are allowed back into normal society they must register as sex offenders and be monitored for the rest of their lives. No she didn't deserve to die that way, but if the worst criminals look on those who sexually abuse children as to be beyond any sort of redemption then why should any of us ever look at her as the only real victim here. It's truly sad what happened, but honestly, these are the fruits of TFs sexual policies. Sadly, something like this was bound to happen and though there has been a number of suicides, frankly I'm quite surprised an occurrence of this nature did not happen sooner. If we can learn one thing from this it might be that we have the opportunity to help each and to get real medical and psychological help for those SGA friends who really need it and who might be close to the edge. There has to be help out there for those who need it. Perhaps no one close to him saw anything remotely close to this coming but perhaps those who know one that is really struggling with his/her horrific family past --to this degree-- might be able to take steps to prevent something like this from happening. We have all suffered too much in our childhoods and teen years-- something has got to give. But maybe I'm just naive.(reply to this comment)

From Wednesday, January 26, 2005, 07:09 (Agree/Disagree?) Thats exactly right. Just shows how devious TF Were/are and why the tight secerity all the time. Berg said himself; " "You could hardly touch a more sensitive nerve in most of the systemites to enrage them and have them want to lynch you on the spot than to bring up child abuse, and child sex, and child pornography, and all that kind of rot." Lord justice Ward adds; "I highlight these words because so to dismiss sexual perversion of that kind as "rot" is, to my mind, to provide proof positive from his own words that Berg was a man without judgment or moral scruple, and a malign corrupting influence on his susceptible followers. Berg Says; " I'll tell you it's dangerous because the system sure hates it, and the system's laws and everything are geared against sexual activity of all kinds and types, particularly having anything to do with children! Who don't even have to be a child, just a minor...there's nothing in the world at all wrong with sex as long as its practised in love, whatever it is, or whoever its with, no matter who, or at what age or what relative or in what manner," and you don't hardly dare even say these words in private. If the law ever got a hold of this, they'd try to string me up! They'd probably lynch me before I got to the jail." The Devil hates sex 1980(reply to this comment)

from melzar Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 10:51 (Agree/Disagree?) I'd like to mention, knowing Ricky personally, he did not take drugs, smoke or drink heavily. So lay off with the false accusations! (reply to this comment)

From Nick Friday, January 21, 2005, 07:13 (Agree/Disagree?) That may have been his problem.... JK :)(reply to this comment)

from Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 10:04 (Agree/Disagree?) If you're an example of the "love of jesus" then I'm a pick fucking elephant. Goodbye! (reply to this comment)

from asdfg Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 08:56 (Agree/Disagree?) zip up... your lack of education is showing (reply to this comment)

from banal_commentator Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 08:56 (Agree/Disagree?) I propose that no one make any more comments on this article, but instead send it to the Trailer Park where this guy and his painfully naive, shockingly self-denying, atrociously misspelt article belongs. (reply to this comment)

From Speedx3dave Thursday, May 12, 2005, 17:34

from ?????? Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 08:44 (Agree/Disagree?) ASSHOLE! (reply to this comment)

from tiahogan Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 08:39 (Agree/Disagree?) Thanks for sharing dipshit!!! U can go fuck yourself now!!! Why are you even in this site if you're pro-cult? We don't mind other opinions but to go on like you do, that's too much. WHo the FUCK are YOU>???? Go on, don't you have better things to do? Let people do their healing however they need to & you do yours your own way. Thanks for sharing & FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!! (reply to this comment)

From Speedx3dave Thursday, May 12, 2005, 17:39

From Wolf Friday, January 21, 2005, 05:15 (Agree/Disagree?) What makes you think he's pro-cult? Did you read the article?(reply to this comment)

From Speedx3dave Thursday, May 12, 2005, 17:40