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from Tim R Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 20:10 (Agree/Disagree?) I don't think impeachment is enough. Bush needs to go to prison. (reply to this comment)

From Sir Rantalot Thursday, July 03, 2003, 02:55 (Agree/Disagree?) Well spoken, what do you think they'd do to any of us ordinary citizens if we went on a killing spree in the name of 'God', 'because everyone was out to kill us', or 'I was a bit paranoid, sorry it won't happen again'? (reply to this comment)

from Sir Rantalot - There is no Debate on this topic! Monday, June 30, 2003 - 09:52 (Agree/Disagree?) Here we go again.. The ignorant, christian patriots who strive to become more like the main character in 1984, & who love to fight imaginary threats to their security(drugs, terrorism). VS The people who think for themselves, who's views are their own & aren't afraid if one of their views happen to be similar to a few of berg's political opinions. LET THE FLAME WAR BEGIN!!! I'll already start insulting those bigoted, ignorant americans who are so fucking stupid they probably would go to war for Bush's personal interests. You guys are a joke! I'm sick of your (lack of) culture that's being shoved down my throat every time turn on the TV. I'm sick of your perverted Christian morality which is the cause of most of the worlds problems. I'm insulted by the complete nonsense I have to watch, is that what you consider entertainment? It's at the intelligence level of an impaled over-weight autistic 5 year old. You dumb fucks, you're no better than the racist africaaners: Closed-minded Christians who don't consider anyone of another country or religion as good as them. The value of life isn't the same for all humans, if one fat red-neck dies from choking on his fucking hamburger in Iraq, it's more of a headline on CNN than if innocent 5000 Iraqis die. You fucking idiots came to the US because you were so damn piously christian that not even the English could stand you anymore, you brutally removed the original inhabitants from the US, because they weren't christian and therefore didn't deserve the same rights you enjoy. Not only that, you then feel the need to go busy-bodying around the world on a voracious march of insane godliness. The problems of modern western society today: drugs, depression, gender inequality, he said-she said bullshit, disrespect of people from diverse cultures and race all stem from your sick religious, hollywood pseudo-culture that you've flooded the world with. And now you're pretending to fix it by creating more unbalance and thus more problems. It's about time you Rambo-wannbie hill-billies drop your overalls and get the gang shafting you deserve. ______________________________ BE AN INDIVIDUAL!!! It's not about religion, it's about brand recognition & target marketing. It's not about Jesus, it's about view share percentages & maximum advertising exposure. It's not about your country, it's about increasing net profit turnover. It's not defending your land, it's about eliminating competition, improving investor confidence & lowering operating expenses. & remember you are the consumer and that corporation(government) monopolizes your safety, education, social security & your rights as a person. That's plenty important if not vital aspects of your life to be entrusting to a greedy corporation. The Corporate world is evil, because the only important factor in that world is capital and turnover: lots of figures in a book. Decisions are made based only on those factors. It is a very proper, rational way to go about things, nothing wrong with that, just one, we are not numbers, or statistics, we are living things, with an abitity to think, we have feelings, we think. Companies to not give their employees raises, fringe benefits and low cost loans out of friendship, they want you to be dependent on them, they want you to become their docile servant. You really think they care? LOL. Yes we were taught similar vews in the family, but the techniques are the same everywhere. During the cold war, schoolbooks were filled with how bad Russian children had it in communism, and in Russia kids were taught from a young age to love the party, the was the only one really concerned about your well-being. The truth is, none of them really care: The family, Capitalism, Communism. We have a huge advantage over the rest of the world, we have managed to throw away everthing we've been taught as 'the truth', all the fears, the principles, the certainty, all gone. Because of this we are free from the preconcieved notions the rest of the zombies out there are, we have learned to think freely. To decide for ourselves what is right or wrong, we must use that capabilty and appreciate our diversity, our individuality. I spent most of my school years trying to identify with something, trying to find friends to relate to. I never did find anyone else quite as 'odd' as me, and initialy I felt inferior, I hated myself till I learned to love myself, love my uniqueness, love the fact that I am more of a rebel than anyone I have met. I don't need to conform, or to standardize my personality, if people don't like me then they probably aren't worth my time anyways. FUCK THE FAMILY FUCK THE SYSTEM FUCK THE DUMB SHEEP THAT THINK YOU SHOULD BE DUMB LIKE THEM MAKE YOUR LIFE INTERESTING, LIVE LIFE TO THE FULL & HAVE FRIENDS WHO RESPECT YOU AND THINK FOR YOURSELF (reply to this comment)

From Sir Rantalot Thursday, July 03, 2003, 06:41 (Agree/Disagree?) Yes, I did take attack that post a little harshly, didn’t mean it as a personal attack, Anthony. Just needed to vent a bit, I told my gf to sod off this weekend, she was insulting my intelligence and abusing my kindness. Yes, I also have a soft side, I’m rabid puppy once you get to know me. That whole piece was written in 10 minutes between customer calls and an annoying boss. I have a cult following on an SA dance scene for Monday morning rants like that. Maybe I should start a new religion and call it “the Children of Athena” or “the Coven”. ! :-)(reply to this comment)

From Sir Rantalot Thursday, July 03, 2003, 06:41 (Agree/Disagree?) Yes, I did take attack that post a little harshly, didn’t mean it as a personal attack, Anthony. Just needed to vent a bit, I told my gf to sod off this weekend, she was insulting my intelligence and abusing my kindness. Yes, I also have a soft side, I’m rabid puppy once you get to know me. That whole piece was written in 10 minutes between customer calls and an annoying boss. I have a cult following on an SA dance scene for Monday morning rants like that. Maybe I should start a new religion and call it “the Children of Athena” or “the Coven”. ! :-)(reply to this comment)

From neezy Monday, June 30, 2003, 21:20 (Agree/Disagree?) When you have such a large population, your going to get a fairly large percentage of idiots. It's the law of odds. The problem is when that entire percentage happens to be located in & around the white-house. Imagine if all Americans were nice. It would be like Canada.. we already have a Canada.(reply to this comment)

From Anthony Monday, June 30, 2003, 18:06 (Agree/Disagree?) Yes, we Americans have our faults, like everyone else, but the fact remains: Americans are evolved Europeans!!! And the rest of the world will find forward movement by riding on our coattails, as well as find warmth in our shadow. (reply to this comment)

From xhrisl Tuesday, July 01, 2003, 07:53 (Agree/Disagree?) Yes, Anthony as a true partriot I must agree with you---Damn the torrpedos full speed ahead! And if by God they ride our coat-tails as the result of having their own coats caught in the doors of our SUV's as we speed down the interstate, then so be it. And if they find warmth in the heat and shadow of our massive ordanance as we carpet bomb their villages...well hallelujah!!! (reply to this comment)

From Sir Rantalot Tuesday, July 01, 2003, 10:12 (Agree/Disagree?) Ok, so now are we going to start the whole "God bless America" VS "I don't like America, their soap operas are kak"? I have nothing against Americans, but comments like these are what make the rest of the world think of you as ignorant & void of culture. If you were under a REAL threat from Iraq, I would be totally on Bush's side. You think I feel any sort of kinship to those fanatical Arabs? If you even think for a moment that Bush was acting out of true patriotic reasons then you'd better get back your TV with 500 channels and your nice easy chair, order some pizza, sit back & continue watching WWF. I don't need to waste my time arguing with you anymore. I'm not critzing you, I'm insulting your imperialist government, and if you take that personally, you're behaving just like my deluded mother when I try to make her see reason concerning TF. I can tell her all I want that it's zerby and Co who deserve punishment, that she's a victim who needs to be set free. But no, she's so immersed in cult propaganda(she joined at 17, now she's 43), that it's impossible to see TF as evil, even if she doesn't know zerby and kelly's real names & when presented with cold, hard facts. Don't you see the analogy? it's just a more subtle, long-term form of brain-washing. You may be patriotic, and I respect that, but Bush doesn't really give a shit about you. And the same goes for Berlusconi, Chirac, Blair.... ___________________________________________ Try this link thought conditioning(Memes): http://www.mwillett.dabsol.co.uk/Memes/memesection.htm(reply to this comment)

From Anthony Tuesday, July 01, 2003, 15:12 (Agree/Disagree?) Guys, laugh out loud already, I didn't think anyone would fall for it; the joke that is. I may be a patriot, but I'm not ignorant. The first time I made that comment was at a party a few weeks back. I liked the outraged that followed, so, I thought this was as good a place as any to try my "new wine." :P By the way, XHRISL, I just recently realized that I know your mom and many of your siblings. As a matter of fact, the last time I saw your mother was in '95 when we drove from California to Colorado with her younger kids, I think Lisa was the eldest of the kids with us. God, we certainly experienced the love and provison of the great cult - not! We had like no money and had to provision (beg) for gas, food and hotels the entire way. Now that I think about it, it really must have been a strange sight: An older white woman traveling around with a young black guy and her 4 or 5 kids. I'm sure we must have raised more than a few eyebrows, especially when we drove through Utah, Northern Arizona and some other "outbacks." Anyway, hope you all are well. (reply to this comment)

From Mir Thursday, July 03, 2003, 16:24 (Agree/Disagree?) LOL Anthony!!! That's the story of our freaking lives!!!!! (reply to this comment)

From Albatross Tuesday, July 01, 2003, 10:27 (Agree/Disagree?) Ah...eurotrash strikes back. European free speech: brought to you by American blood, bucks, and yes, bombs. Enjoy!(reply to this comment)

From frmrjoyish Monday, June 30, 2003, 17:57 (Agree/Disagree?) While I have my own opinions about certain aspects of the US government, I'm also sick and tired of hearing the rest of the world trash this country. Yes, certain things are screwed up and yes, the US gave the American Indians a terrible time. We've had our share of skeletons in the closet of this country. But for the rest of the world to suddenly take such a high and mighty stance pisses me off. In the history of this world violence and taking countries by force is, sadly, a common occurance. Name one present country who has not taken its land from someone else at sometome or other in the past (maybe Canada, I'm not sure, though). People should look at their own history before they jump so fast to critisize the US. The rest of the world is so quick to critisize this country but even quicker to call on us when they need something, like money or to fight a war for them. As for France and Germany, I happen to agree with them on their opposition to this war, but let's face it, they weren't opposing it for some great moral cause but because they had financial interest in Iraq that would be at stake when America won the war. And the countries that did support the war were only too happy to accept bribes in return for their support, in some cases it was even a condition of support. So as far as the rest of the world goes, they need to get off their high and mighty horse cause sure enough eventually everyone comes begging the US for a handout in someform or other. BTW, not all Americans are redneck hillbillies! And as far as our culture goes, if you don't like it, then stay away from it, if you can't get away from it, well, maybe that's because the rest of the world can't get enough of it!! Talk about hypocrites!(reply to this comment)

From Mir Monday, June 30, 2003, 15:21 (Agree/Disagree?) Shoot, Matey, I'd much rather be ruled by "Christian" morals (whether they are Christian or not is debatable IMO) any day than to be ruled by Moslem morals. At least we women get treated better! (reply to this comment)

From Sir Rantalot Tuesday, July 01, 2003, 03:29 (Agree/Disagree?) Christianity, Islam, Judaism, if you look at the world today aren’t they the cause of the mess in the middle east, of WWII? When I diss Christianity don’t automatically assume I am a Muslim supporter, I really don’t much difference in the 3 religions, all of them created to be used as a political tool if you look at historical situation at the time of Abraham, Jesus or Mohammed. If I diss Capitalism, don’t assume I’m some left-winger socialist, I think they both are wrong. I don’t think that Europe is much better than the US, I think they both are based on a flawed, confused & dangerous set of morals given to us by a Monotheistic religion & a destructive drug: Alcohol. Only these three religions give us the right to determine someone else as evil, and therefore the right to commit murder in the name of God. Most of the morals written in the Bible by the historical tales and parables I consider them to be distorted and dangerous. Whether someone is a homosexual, Christian, Muslim, pagan, or a foreigner, I have no right to infringe on his rights just because my sacred religious writings tell me to rain fire and brimstone on him or to stone him. Of course Germany and France are no better, they only had economical reason for being against this war, that’s why I believe that the current global system running on Corporate values(correction, value, profit) is flawed because inevitably there will be a conflict of interest when it comes to deciding between the well being of the citizens vs increasing profit. (reply to this comment)

from frmrjoyish Monday, June 30, 2003 - 00:43 (Agree/Disagree?) If a President can get impeached for an extramarital affair, should going to war under false pretenses should be an impeachable offense? Bush clearly has had his own agenda before he even got in the white house (remeber how he got it in the first place, everyone??). He fought for inspectors to reenter Iraq and when they found nothing he ignored the their recommendations and pushed for war. He refused the inspectors request for more time which if granted would have still turned up nothing as is the case today (making his future case for war even weaker than it already was). He used irreliable documents and sources to present a case before the world on why he should go to war and then when the rest of the world (including his own country initially)was not impressed he went and did it any way. He made a case of how Iraq was an imminent danger to the citizens of the USA and needed to be dealt with. Well, I would just like to know how he was a danger to anyone, other than his own people. The fact is, he wasn't. Sadam, of course, is a horrible man and should have never been in power. However, US politics put him there in the first place and he is not the first or only dictator placed in power under the US governments approval. Hopefully, a lesson will be learned that the US government cannot continue to play God with world politics. I think if the reasons for war were really those stated, serious attempts to remove him would have happened years ago. How convenient that it happens just before an election year! (reply to this comment)