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from Free-Thinker - Monday, May 23, 2005
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Does anyone have photos from The Victor Programs or know where I can get ahold of some?

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from Phoenixkidd
Friday, May 27, 2005 - 17:53

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I remember they weren't big on photos. Also sometime around 91` they told every family to go through all their pics and cut out everyone that wasn't in their family. I remember, in Tateyama at the Dorm they took one pic of each child and sent it to their parents. Kind of like a show off that they were treating their kid right, and look how great he or she looks now! Then they took another one of us doing some type of gardening or something, all staged to show that our "School" teaches vocational arts. What a load!
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From monger
Friday, May 27, 2005, 19:08

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The photo purges were weird. My dad destroyed all my mom's photos of her non-cult family, some of which she was preserving for them for years. The excuse these days: they were too heavy to carry during travels. Yeah, that's why you cut them all up individually, right? (Of course, the purges were due to Family policy.)(reply to this comment
From xolox
Saturday, May 28, 2005, 08:37

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If all pictures of little Johnny and uncle pervy are destroyed than who's to prove they ever met? It was an insurance measure against our growing up and taking any action as retribution for their happy little games. (reply to this comment
From Big Sister
Saturday, May 28, 2005, 09:54

Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5Average visitor agreement is 5 out of 5(Agree/Disagree?)
AND an insurance measure against memory itself. Perserving memory is one of the main purposes of photographs in fact! Photos help us bring back "what happened back then". Surely you've experienced looking at a photo and all the feelings of the time come flooding back. Without the photos you lose touch with the memories, little by little. It's a lot harder to make sense of your personal past if your parents (and their cult masters) are trying to obfuscate it.

I think of Moving On as a place where your words and collective memories can serve as the role of the missing photographs.(reply to this comment
From xolox
Saturday, May 28, 2005, 21:58

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I don't have a lot of early memories left in the "beck and call department" of my mind. Most come to me like a fragmentary mist, for lack of a better term, and are conjured more by smells than anything else. Even when I look at photographs, it's very hard to place myself in their context or see the place in my mind.

Yes you smart asses, it's called repression, I know;). In my particular case I believe it's a good thing. I believe there's a lot I don't want to ever remember again. Recovering memories, in my experience, is not all it's cracked up to be.(reply to this comment

From Joey
Monday, May 30, 2005, 05:20

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You know smells are big with me too as are colours! I'll not remember details of any description but will know where I was ie a house we stayed in for a couple of weeks and that that particular period of time felt like a colour like deep deep blue or a haze of greens mixed with a nasty swirl of red, etc etc!(reply to this comment
From Joey
Monday, May 30, 2005, 05:10

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Photos and this site serve as affirmation that we have something to be upset about, that we didn't make it all up.

I think we remember things when we're ready to remember them and for some of us and indeed for certain things that time may never come.

When someone is ready for it, affirmation is very important.(reply to this comment

From Big Sister
Saturday, May 28, 2005, 09:54

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Ack! I meant "preserving memory...."(reply to this comment
from EyesWideShut
Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 14:12

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Strange that. I was in Victors and other programs at the HCS for years, but don't have any pix. I don't remember them taking many during the VP.
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from memories
Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 12:44

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The way I remember it, they told us to burn all pictures containing anyone not in our immediate family. Since my family was separated by this time it included all my brothers and sisters who were no longer living with us & all our photos down to the baby pictures were either trashed or cut out to these disfigured shapes. The fucked up thing is that a little while later they all came out saying...it was just a test of loyalty & it needn't be done in the future. Around the same time they made all member turn in all their jewlery & valubles..for my dad it was his coin collection & for my mom all of her jewlery from, "Fish" -ugh!What disgusting memories!
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From Fish
Wednesday, May 25, 2005, 22:20

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Tell your mom I want my jewlery back!(reply to this comment
From ameliaus
Saturday, May 28, 2005, 08:10

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I actually laughed for the first time today, at that.(reply to this comment
from Jerseygirl
Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 03:31

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Yeah I've got tons!--The family was always big on taking pictures of everything negative that happened as well as all the PR photos. We all had personal cameras and funds to get the pictures developed. We all took pictures of each others bruises and neck signs --so anyways email me-----NOT!
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From yeah
Wednesday, May 25, 2005, 09:54

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Remember all the photo "purges" we went through? I hardly have any childhood pictures as a result. But maybe that's a good thing....repressing the memories of my childhood and teenage years is how I've survived this far!(reply to this comment

From Free-Thinker
Wednesday, May 25, 2005, 07:20

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I get your point, but can`t you you and all of you guys out there quit cluttering up this site with unnecessary sarcastic comments!(reply to this comment

From Free-talker
Wednesday, May 25, 2005, 11:10

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Unnecessary? Painting the picture just like it is/was!
They made my Dad destroy the only photos he had of his dead mom,that, to me is plain cruel.(reply to this comment
From xolox
Wednesday, May 25, 2005, 08:19

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Oh wow! That'll do it. Thanks to that little comment this place will be sarcasm free! How do you do it?(reply to this comment
From katrim4
Wednesday, May 25, 2005, 07:39

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Why?(reply to this comment

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