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from whiskers Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 23:36 (Agree/Disagree?) (There's a lot more to Zug, Switzerland than meets the eye, read the following excerpts from this new article.) By CLARE NULLIS Associated Press Writer ZUG, Switzerland, Mar 05, 2001 (AP Online via COMTEX) -- Zug has bloomed into Switzerland's wealthiest state, its prettily preserved old town surrounded by plush office towers and bustling factories and its suburbs home to hundreds of millionaires. Rich and a handful of other ambitious commodities traders arrived in Zug in the early 1970s to make their fortunes on oil markets. He made the town his home in 1983 to avoid an indictment by a U.S. federal grand jury on more than 50 counts of fraud, racketeering, trading with Iran during the U.S. Embassy hostage crisis and evading more than $48 million in income taxes - crimes that could have earned him more than 300 years in prison. Switzerland doesn't regard tax evasion as a crime and, as a neutral country, didn't have any embargo against Iran and so it refused to treat Rich as a crook or hand him over to the United States despite strong There are an estimated 2,000 millionaires among Zug's 100,000 inhabitants. While his offices are in Zug, Rich lives in nearby Meggen, a suburb on Lake Lucerne's "Gold Coast," whose residents include Russian pianist Vladimir Ashkenazy and Irish flutist James Galway as well as wealthy industrialists and lawyers. Zug doesn't seem particularly concerned America's formerly most wanted fugitive has agreed to sell his Marc Rich & Co. Investments to Russian-owned Crown Resources and retire from most of his business activities. In all, some 20,000 companies are registered in Zug, including 1,000 new firms last year alone. Foreign companies are attracted by the educated labor force, top schools, the proximity of the economic hub of Zurich, the quality of life surrounded by lakes and mountains, and above all Zug's famously low taxes. "We are the state with by far the lowest taxes," Bisig says proudly in an interview in the government's airy headquarters. "The taxpayer is always treated as a valued customer rather than as someone who owes us a debt or is a potential tax evader." "There is the danger that shady firms will come to Zug because they know that they can hide in the mass of other new companies and the police and legal system simply won't be able to cope," he says. Lang fears the expansion of Crown, one of Russia's largest financial industrial conglomerates, may provide a cover for Russian organized crime - but stresses there's no evidence Crown is under mob influence. Bisig says he's confident local authorities can ensure that all the companies stay within the law. Until now, there haven't been any problems, he insists. He points to the local jail visible from his third-floor office and says none of the inmates are linked to financial or tax crimes. And, as for Zug's most notorious financier, he adds, "Like everyone else, Marc Rich has always complied with Swiss law." Rich was even more in the news when Clinton controversially gave him a pardon a few days before leaving the White House. You can google if you want to look up the whole story, there's still lots of unanswered questions and intrigue. So it's not one bit of a suprise TF dons picked out Zug to bank in and to set up Aurora for a place to stash away their extra money. (reply to this comment)

From they got this guy Sunday, May 08, 2005, 09:22 (Agree/Disagree?) http://www.sptimes.ru/archive/times/1067/top/t_15644.htm This guy is a Russian and the US govt still got him in Switzerland! For money laundering and some sort of tax thing. So: they don't have to be Swiss for US authorities to get them, they do have to have broken major US laws. Stashing $ donated for charity/non profit is against the law. Switzerland doesn't personally care, though. I think they'll cut them loose if its too much bad publicity. I'm thinking maybe getting the govt. to take on persecuting them for the abuses - as a PR thing for them - could work.(reply to this comment)

from Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 13:22 (Agree/Disagree?) Right now the U.S Senate Committee on Finance (http://finance.senate.gov/index.html) is looking into new legislation to curb abuses in the charitable sector and holding hearings on Charity oversight and reform. For anybody interested in letting them know about the Family Care Foundation/Aurora/Activated money laundering scheme for the unregistered organization "The Family," which has criminal elements in its past, you can contact the Senate Finance Committee and ask them to look into this abuse. You can even submit a statement so that your views can be included on the Hearing Record. The information is: Committee On Finance 219 Dirksen Senate Office Building Washington, DC 20510-6200 Majority Phone: (202) 224-4515 Minority Phone: (202) 224-5315 Statements for the Record: Any individual or organization wanting to present their views for inclusion in the hearing record should submit a typewritten, single-spaced statement, not exceeding 10 pages in length. Title and date of the hearing, and the full name and address of the individual or organization must appear on the first page of the statement. Statements must be received no later than two weeks following the conclusion of the hearing. Statements should be mailed to: Senate Committee on Finance Attn. Editorial and Document Section Rm. SD-203 Dirksen Senate Office Bldg. Washington, DC 20510-6200 (reply to this comment)

From just curious Friday, June 25, 2004, 13:48 (Agree/Disagree?) With all due respect, what are we trying to do here? Are you suggesting to submit to the SCOF some dubious info about an obscure NGO in Switzerland. What proof about any alleged wrongdoing do we haveon Aurora? Where's the proof, who's accusing, on what evidence. And why should a Washington based Senate Committee be interested in a Swiss based Foundation. I'm sorry folks, but if this is all we have to pursue, we really don't have much to pursue, don't we? Who cares about Aurora? I certainly don't, neither does the SCOF, I believe. Aurora is just mainly pushing "tools", CDs, Video and whatnot. Perfectly legitimate, just like any other company selling things. I believe we're barking up the wrong tree.(reply to this comment)

From SeanSwede Saturday, May 07, 2005, 14:07 (Agree/Disagree?) Your obviously a Family member. You know, the way you write and all. I sense your slippery ways...jerk!(reply to this comment)

From to Wolf Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 09:34 (Agree/Disagree?) Do you still think this simplistically?(reply to this comment)

From Wolf Tuesday, July 06, 2004, 11:29 (Agree/Disagree?) I don’t post anonymously.(reply to this comment)

From Joe H Friday, June 25, 2004, 15:28 (Agree/Disagree?) The Mafia also have "perfectly legitimate" business that they set up for various reasons, whether to launder money or for tax purposes. "Who cares about Aurora?" you ask. People who don't like the idea of perverts making money, that's who! Never mind the fact that the CDs and videos preach a wacky religious message, they also violate so many standards of good taste that the Fashion Police have had a death warrant out for the producers for quite some time! (reply to this comment)

From - Friday, June 25, 2004, 14:58 (Agree/Disagree?) Thanks for sharing, NeOublie.(reply to this comment)

From Ne Oublie Friday, June 25, 2004, 15:51 (Agree/Disagree?) I wasn't the one who posted as 'just curious' - the editors can confirm that.(reply to this comment)

From - Friday, June 25, 2004, 15:53 (Agree/Disagree?) Then that should have been under "details."(reply to this comment)

From Ne Oublie Saturday, June 26, 2004, 02:39 (Agree/Disagree?) 'details' wasn't me either. I have only posted under my own name in this forum - making this my second post.(reply to this comment)

From - Saturday, June 26, 2004, 05:06 (Agree/Disagree?) Then humble apologies.(reply to this comment)

From details Friday, June 25, 2004, 09:56 (Agree/Disagree?) For those writing to the committee or any other state body can somebody outline precisely how the Family or the FCF are actually breaking the law or are laundering money? It would help for us to know what we're talking about!!!(reply to this comment)

from sword&shield Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 12:34 (Agree/Disagree?) Got some new Information for you: There is another company in switzerland. Its name is FAMILY MISSIONS FOUNDATION. The following persons are behind the company: Smith Cristopher, Luzern, Switzerland Brown Kevin,Seattle, US Mestyanek Thomas, LA, US Mullen Sean Michael, Studio Dity, US Steiner Ernst, Hünibach, Switzerland Darley Michael Andrew, Houston, US Furusjö Claes,Johanneshov, Sweden (reply to this comment)

From ameliaus Saturday, May 07, 2005, 20:51 (Agree/Disagree?) How about take another look at the list and the next reply...(reply to this comment)

From namer Monday, July 05, 2004, 18:28 (Agree/Disagree?) Whatever this org is, it is important. Chris Smith is the legal name of Peter Amserdam, aka Steve Kelly. Kevin Brown is the ( new) legal name of Jeremy Woods, whose legal name formerly was Terry Martin. Thomas Mestyanek is the legal name of Shemariah Books, top WS bookkeeper and accountant -- one of the few people besides Smith and Zerby who knows where the $ are. Sean Mullen is Francis Fisherman, a 30 something ass-kisser who is right up there with Zerby -- for a long time. Ernst Steiner is a Swiss FGA -- has been used as president of Kinder Gottes in Switzerland 2o years ago -- a drone, but useful for this kind of biz, as they probably need one national. Don't know about Darley, and Furusjo Claes is a Swiss dude FGA, whose Fam name escapes me, but has been active in WS finances for a long time, both in Hong Kong and Europe. He helped set up Aurora. Whatever this org is, if it is active, it bears watching, as these are all heavy hitters. (reply to this comment)

From Les Wednesday, July 07, 2004, 07:15 (Agree/Disagree?) Kevin Brown is actually Samuel Pefilio aka "Mathew" in the GNs - Kevin A Brown is his legal name now after an identity swap.(reply to this comment)

From SeanSwede Saturday, May 07, 2005, 14:10 (Agree/Disagree?) I`m sorry, did you mean Samuel Pedofileo? (reply to this comment)

From banal_commentator Tuesday, July 06, 2004, 10:47 (Agree/Disagree?) Why does he call himself "Peter Amsterdam"? Is he from Amsterdam?? (reply to this comment)

From Regi Tuesday, July 06, 2004, 11:47 (Agree/Disagree?) Are you positive that Chris Smith is Steve Kelly aka Peter Amsterdam?? If so which is his "real" name? Kelly or Smith?(reply to this comment)

From Vicky Tuesday, July 06, 2004, 11:43 (Agree/Disagree?) I believe it's because he met and joined TF in Amsterdam.(reply to this comment)

From Wolf Tuesday, July 06, 2004, 11:24 (Agree/Disagree?) Your guess is as good as mine -- isn’t Holland’s age of consent for males the lowest in the world? Amsterdam is also associated with drugs, prostitution, homosexuals … or maybe he just had a great fuck there.(reply to this comment)

From Tuesday, July 06, 2004, 07:32 (Agree/Disagree?) Highly interesting. Somebody below says this org is where they funnel tithes. Funny thing is that the tithes are for The Family, which last I heard does not exist as an entity, its closest legal embodiment being Family Care Foundation or Activated. You know something is rotten in Denmark when so many of these people have to change their names because of the red, red flags their original names would raise among those they abused.(reply to this comment)

From Baxter Wednesday, June 23, 2004, 13:19 (Agree/Disagree?) It isn't my intention to detract you in any way, I'm just curious as to what your particular interest in this concerns. I mean, why would you personally want to know this stuff? (reply to this comment)

From cassy Wednesday, June 23, 2004, 13:14 (Agree/Disagree?) From what I heard when I was there, I think Peter aka Kelly was on the board so I'm wondering if one of these names is his (he's most likely changed his name). My hunch is Kevin Brown?(reply to this comment)

From cassy Wednesday, June 23, 2004, 13:08 (Agree/Disagree?) Thanks for posting this information. I used to live Switzerland at Aurora before I left but didn't have this legal info.(reply to this comment)

From Wednesday, June 23, 2004, 13:16 (Agree/Disagree?) So "Aurora" is also a Family Home?(reply to this comment)

From cassy Wednesday, June 23, 2004, 13:26 (Agree/Disagree?) Yes. Aurora people were staying in the same home as the CRO base for Europe in Switzerland, as well as the the Family Missions which was set up to funnel tithe money "legally".(reply to this comment)

From Shackled Friday, June 25, 2004, 00:39 (Agree/Disagree?) Damn them! They take our tithe money while gettin to live in Switzerland. I knew there was another reason to hate'm.(reply to this comment)